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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.01 22:05:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Jade Constantine

Well Verone, I'm glad to see you have recovered your poise a little. More dignified all things considered. You might be a shocking bore and all that but I don't like to see all my enemies squealing like stuck pigs on our anniversary threads Cool




Attempts at reverse psychology and trying to goad me into insulting you won't work on me I'm afraid Jade.

I got what I wanted, which was for you to explode as usual and cause a huge scene when presented with the true black and white facts.

Nice try though.

I hope your pilots have an enjoyable Anniversary, be sure to pass on my regards to them.


Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2011.06.01 22:06:00 - [92]
 


Hmmm I do wonder sometimes at the "reality" you are living in little pirate.

Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.01 22:16:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Jade Constantine

Hmmm I do wonder sometimes at the "reality" you are living in little pirate.



Here we go again. You just don't know when to quit, do you? Smile


Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2011.06.01 22:17:00 - [94]
 


Free bumps baby. Keep them coming.

Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.01 22:18:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Jade Constantine

Free bumps baby. Keep them coming.



Not a problem, always happy to assist when you're flagging Wink


Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2011.06.01 22:25:00 - [96]
 


Well you might find more work for it in a few days. We've still got plenty of natural emo to harvest from your alliance mates before we really need you to put your nose to the grindstone.

Jason Galente
Gallente
mishima ryu
Posted - 2011.06.01 22:31:00 - [97]
 

Verone, for one who claims to merely be a pirate, you sure do love to argue with political activists. What point are you trying to make?


Gabriel Darkefyre
Minmatar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2011.06.01 22:32:00 - [98]
 

8 Years, Huh? Not many Capsuleer Corps out there who can claim that.

Here's to the Future, wherever it may lead.

Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.01 22:33:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Jason Galente
Verone, for one who claims to merely be a pirate, you sure do love to argue with political activists. What point are you trying to make?




Politics tend to shape the cluster. Just because one has an NBSI engagement policy and no nationalist loyalties, it doesn't mean one can't keep track of political goings on.


Jason Galente
Gallente
mishima ryu
Posted - 2011.06.01 22:38:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Jason Galente
Verone, for one who claims to merely be a pirate, you sure do love to argue with political activists. What point are you trying to make?




Politics tend to shape the cluster. Just because one has an NBSI engagement policy and no nationalist loyalties, it doesn't mean one can't keep track of political goings on.




At least that makes one politician who is honest about his piracy.


Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.01 22:38:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Jade Constantine

Well you might find more work for it in a few days. We've still got plenty of natural emo to harvest from your alliance mates before we really need you to put your nose to the grindstone.



I'm sure we'll be fine when faced with the torrent of mercenary corporations you'll no doubt have Revan send our way, given the fact you're not capable of fighting your own battles.

Remember, it's TXW. Tango, Xray, Whisky. Left turn at Ostingele, can't miss it.

Ciao.


Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2011.06.01 22:41:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Verone

I'm sure we'll be fine when faced with the torrent of mercenary corporations you'll no doubt have Revan send our way, given the fact you're not capable of fighting your own battles.


Hmmmm I'm not sure you should be complaining about spurious mercenary decs after that extremely dodgy outfit that decced Moira simply to jack up our wardec fee Verone. As for my lover's mercenary fetish - you clearly don't know the first thing about Revan Neferis if you think anybody "has" her do "anything".

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.06.01 22:43:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Verone
I'm sure we'll be fine when faced with the torrent of mercenary corporations you'll no doubt have Revan send our way


You break my heart making such assumptions. Besides, I never do business without a proper glass of wine and good cigar.
Intaki bank station is quite pleasing, i love the quarters. Do come by with Mercy and Fort to have dinner with me some of these nights. I'll stay here for a while.

Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik

Jason Galente
Gallente
mishima ryu
Posted - 2011.06.01 22:45:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Verone
I'm sure we'll be fine when faced with the torrent of mercenary corporations you'll no doubt have Revan send our way


Besides, I never do business without a proper glass of wine and good cigar.


Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik



Amen to that.


Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2011.06.01 22:59:00 - [105]
 

Congratulations on eight years Captain Constantine.



Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.01 23:00:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: Jade Constantine
Hmmmm I'm not sure you should be complaining about spurious mercenary decs after that extremely dodgy outfit that decced Moira simply to jack up our wardec fee Verone.


Nothing to do with me, but an interesting piece of information none the less.

Originally by: Revan Neferis
You break my heart making such assumptions. Besides, I never do business without a proper glass of wine and good cigar.
Intaki bank station is quite pleasing, i love the quarters. Do come by with Mercy and Fort to have dinner with me some of these nights. I'll stay here for a while.



Not intentional darling, simply a musing on the possible outcome of such a verbal outburst from your partner.

As for the visit. Why not? I'll be sure to arrange something when my schedule permits.




Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Kumiho's Smile
Posted - 2011.06.01 23:03:00 - [107]
 

Hm.

Well, speaking as someone who's actually succeeded at angering Verone, this doesn't look much like an example of Ethan upset. He's said nothing here he couldn't say with a smile.

Then again, Ethan, for someone who's:

Originally by: Verone
happy to be regarded as an uncouth, savage, heartless, manipluative, vicious bastard


... your soft spots are in some interesting places.

You do like your masks, don't you.

Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.01 23:06:00 - [108]
 

Edited by: Verone on 01/06/2011 23:06:55

Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Well, speaking as someone who's actually succeeded at angering Verone, this doesn't look much like an example of Ethan upset. He's said nothing here he couldn't say with a smile.


You're one of a VERY select few, sweetie. Still, I'm not one to hold a grudge. Water under the bridge, as they say.

I do hope you're well.

Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Then again, Ethan, for someone who's:

Originally by: Verone
happy to be regarded as an uncouth, savage, heartless, manipluative, vicious bastard


... your soft spots are in some interesting places.

You do like your masks, don't you.


Oh, but you know I do. If you knew half what you think you do about me darling, you'd be astonished at how blind to the truth you actually are.

Although, your theory on masks is quite relevant.

Stay safe Aria, and do come visit sometime. I'm sure Kyoko would appreciate it.


Rockafella93
Amarr
The Order of Reverance
Crimson Isk
Posted - 2011.06.01 23:16:00 - [109]
 

Though I spent a comparably short time with your organisation Jade, I must profess nothing but admiration for the work you and the free captains continue to do across the cluster.

May your ideals stay true and your will to fight never dull.

happy anniversary free captains and may many more imperialistic regressive tyrants fall to the will of a free thinking people.

To another 8 years of chasing the dogs wherever they may run.

Rocka

Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Kumiho's Smile
Posted - 2011.06.01 23:23:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Verone
If you knew half what you think you do about me darling, you'd be astonished at how blind to the truth you actually are.


Mm. Yes. Well. That's something to discuss, nor not discuss, elsewhere. I've recently noticed I have a bad habit of discussing more in public than I should.

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Stay safe Aria, and do come visit sometime. I'm sure Kyoko would appreciate it.


... Most likely. Actually, I think I'd like that; it's been a very long time.

Perhaps I'll see you soon, then, Ethan.

Jason Galente
Gallente
mishima ryu
Posted - 2011.06.01 23:28:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Aria Jenneth

I've recently noticed I have a bad habit of discussing more in public than I should.




Don't we all, sweetheart?

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.06.01 23:35:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Jason Galente
Amen to that.




Wink

Originally by: Jade Constantine
As for my lover's mercenary fetish - you clearly don't know the first thing about Revan Neferis if you think anybody "has" her do "anything".



Shocking!

Originally by: Verone
As for the visit. Why not? I'll be sure to arrange something when my schedule permits.



Excellent, let me know a bit in advance and I'm sure we can find a good time for us both.

Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik

Bacchanalian
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.06.02 03:04:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Tecam Hund
The reason I am in Jericho Fraction is because I trust my comrades to stand by me in battle


Pretty much sums up my love for Rote Kapelle as well. I've never flown with a better bunch of pilots and never plan to fly with another.

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What happened between Stimulus and JF is frankly a shame. A result of too many large egos colliding and failing to come to a compromise.


Have to agree with the fact that the circumstances were unfortunate, but ultimately the original reason most of us left was we were tired of stagnation every time Jade decided to vanish planetside--the organization at least back then was clearly a personality cult based around Jade, and whenever she was absent, the organization simply fell into a state of hibernation. Despite multiple attempts to motivate the leadership into organizing operations or allowing us to organize operations. For instance, we begged, pleaded, asked and demanded for an operation to hit the infrastructure of CYI, an organization that had refused to surrender and we had promised to return to hit until they did so. We wanted a snap wardec, attacks on their infrastructure, and a brief little road trip down to remind them who we were. The idea was ignored. That's just one example of many from that time period. We finally decided to take matters into our own hands and move on with our goals without Jade and Star Fraction as both seemed unwilling to step up and fight the revolution anywhere but the forums. There were no battles to be won on the Torrinos gate in EC-P8R, but that's where we rotted for 3 long months with no goals, no campaign, no real target to hit, we simply sat around lazily and did nothing.

Ultimately in taking matters into our own hands, in 12 short months we shattered the morale of Aegis Militia, an act that eventually led to their complete collapse, and in the short term cost them sovereignty in several systems. We moved on to shatter the Acheron Federation and quite literally grind it out of existence while simultaneously wounding CYI with what turned out to be a mortal wound. And we did all of that with 1/5 of the numbers that Star Fraction had at their disposal, on a shoestring budget without the vaults full of Tech 2 BPOs and cheap ships and modules provided to our members. We did it out of our own wallets, out of the burning wreckage of our victims, and the assets taken directly from Aegis Militia's coffers and hangars. We also did it after fending off several mercenary organizations hired against us by Revan Neferis on behalf of Jade. Organizations that outnumbered us 10 to 1.

I'll also mention that we sought out friendly standings with SF after leaving. We were summarily rejected.

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In my eyes difference between you and me is the engagement policy and it is hardly an impenetrable barrier.


In mine, it is in the attitudes of our pilots. We are not complacent, we do not spend our time in stations talking up our revolution, we do not spend time caring about our public image, we do not spend time concerning ourselves with silly rules and the public's opinion of our honor and we do not feel the need to justify our actions. We simply do. We do it in space, using ammunition, and by having a real impact on individuals by showing them our superiority as freecaptains. We judge by the numbers of our converts (literally dozens of our members are individuals that we have converted to our cause--you need only look as far as the founding name on our alliance--Gorion Wassenar--to see the truth of this). That is the revolution. That is enlightenment. And that is what we do.

In any case, I bear no personal ill will towards the members of Star Fraction. And still would consider many of the pilots to be friends, though I would not hesitate to shoot them in space so long as hostilities continue between the organizations.

Uraniae Fehrnah
Posted - 2011.06.02 03:30:00 - [114]
 

8 years, congratulations are in order regardless of any sociopolitical posturing.

However I can't help but have a question and I'll apologize in advance if it comes off as argumentative.

How many years does it take before a group becomes just another one of those dastardly regressive regimes?

Jason Galente
Gallente
mishima ryu
Posted - 2011.06.02 03:48:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Uraniae Fehrnah
8 years, congratulations are in order regardless of any sociopolitical posturing.

However I can't help but have a question and I'll apologize in advance if it comes off as argumentative.

How many years does it take before a group becomes just another one of those dastardly regressive regimes?


From what I've seen from Jade and Star Fraction, there is no element of regressiveness at all. Star Fraction is not your average, blood thirsty anarchist cell. The concept of free trade and what they call 'free space' in general is very progressive in nature.


Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.06.02 04:07:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Bacchanalian
We also did it after fending off several mercenary organizations hired against us by Revan Neferis on behalf of Jade. Organizations that outnumbered us 10 to 1.


If only the whole picture of such times were that simple...

Either way brings back a question to the present times; these current wars you are fighting against one another now, what is that exactly for? To see which organization should carry the title of true holders of the anarchist banner, or something else?

I'm interested to read a few different versions regarding this new war.

Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik






Bacchanalian
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.06.02 05:27:00 - [117]
 

Edited by: Bacchanalian on 02/06/2011 05:27:05
Originally by: Revan Neferis

Either way brings back a question to the present times; these current wars you are fighting against one another now, what is that exactly for? To see which organization should carry the title of true holders of the anarchist banner, or something else?

I'm interested to read a few different versions regarding this new war.

Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik



SF moved into our backyard. They put us up on their campaign propaganda as a target. We obliged them by shooting them, as they presented us with the opportunity on multiple occasions. Simple as that.

Tablaren
Knights of Kador
The Black Armada
Posted - 2011.06.02 05:34:00 - [118]
 

Despite the fact that I do not agree with your ideals.

Congratulations are in order for exsisting as long as you have as a cohesive unit. It truly is no small feat.

Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Kumiho's Smile
Posted - 2011.06.02 08:00:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Jason Galente
From what I've seen from Jade and Star Fraction, there is no element of regressiveness at all.


It's early, yet, Mr. Galente.

Stick around.

(Though in fairness to Ms. Constantine, she has been getting more interesting lately.)

Damion Zyne
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.06.02 09:19:00 - [120]
 

Regardless of the alliance colors I fly under now, I salute the free-captains of The Star Fraction.
I just wish you can return to a state where your words are matched by your actions in space again.


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