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fgft Athonille
Posted - 2011.05.31 02:32:00 - [1]
 

walking in stations will all be instanced.

why. because they dont have any netcode for the characters and the actual characters themselves are way too highpoly to have multiple on the screen. so everything will be instanced.

lets take a moment and laugh at ccp. claimed they would never have instances in their game, as we get instances.

Ayieka
Caldari
Posted - 2011.05.31 02:35:00 - [2]
 

cmon, buddy.

Saju Somtaaw
Kagan-Kincaid Enterprises
Posted - 2011.05.31 02:37:00 - [3]
 

Its called LOD, and is already common in games where you can zoom the camera out, or view items from a long distance-the further from the camera, the lower detail its rendered in offten droping polygons and using a simpler texture.

Sadayiel
Caldari
Inner Conflict
Posted - 2011.05.31 02:41:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: fgft Athonille
walking in stations will all be instanced.

why. because they dont have any netcode for the characters and the actual characters themselves are way too highpoly to have multiple on the screen. so everything will be instanced.

lets take a moment and laugh at ccp. claimed they would never have instances in their game, as we get instances.



Meh for sure you never played Everquest and did an old trip tru Bazaar with everything on high, a place with more than 500ppl in busy servers was doable and that was back like 5-6 years ago.

Stick Cult
Posted - 2011.05.31 02:49:00 - [5]
 

First, let's ignore the fact that what the OP actually said in his post makes no sense. Second, given that logic, Eve has always been instanced when you're docked up.

Kharamete
Amarr
Posted - 2011.05.31 03:03:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Kharamete on 31/05/2011 03:03:36
Originally by: Stick Cult
First, let's ignore the fact that what the OP actually said in his post makes no sense. Second, given that logic, Eve has always been instanced when you're docked up.


Eve has always been instanced. Jita is an instance. As is every other solar system in the game. It's just not an exclusive instance, bound to a set amount of players.

The OP could, of course, claim that every solar system in the game is run off the same process, something that would be terribly wrong. Since it's not like that, the OP is meaningless.

The new station evironments will be like what we've always had, I suppose. Non-exclusive instances that are open to the rest of the game world.

Max Romeo
Posted - 2011.05.31 03:05:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Saju Somtaaw
Its called LOD, and is already common in games where you can zoom the camera out, or view items from a long distance-the further from the camera, the lower detail its rendered in offten droping polygons and using a simpler texture.


If you've seen the state of the render and taken a quick think about some of the clearly visible problems/performance issues(since heh, there are loads of hints in the frames), you'll know how far they are from having the time/effort do go down that road. They're also using physx for cloth sim, which is completely unsustainable (don't listen to the marketing material, really) so its unlikely they'll want more than a handful of characters in anything near full detail. Quite funny that they're fighting with concepts that were 'current' in 2003/4 and not even bothering to learn the lessons from back then. I guess Iceland is a cut off pool of talent, but why they don't work on gfx/WiS etc in their US office... :iiam: (and if they do, perhaps shop around a bit more)

Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2011.05.31 03:10:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Rasz Lin on 31/05/2011 03:20:36
Sadly op might be right ...IF CCP manages to implement WIS at all :)

@Saju Somtaaw
wont help, CCP cant even manage to make a char customisation editor thats usable and responsive, and thats ONE char on the screen.

@Sadayiel
You cant compare old game with seasoned 3D coders that ate teeth making massive open world 3D engines to CCP. Look at Captains quaters "performance".

@Max Romeo
Exactly, just look at Grand Theft Auto. Popular mod to GTA3 called MTA lets 254 people play on the same server, GFX is silky smooth, the only chiccups are ping related. Now think about CQ and how it kills your graphic card with ONE avatar on the screen.

CCP is basically learning how to write 3D engine and experimenting on us :(. Pulling off Incarna using RAGE might be doable, using Unreal Engine 3 would be difficult, making it work using garbage they have implemented so far is IMPOSSIBLE.

Corina's Bodyguard
Posted - 2011.05.31 03:52:00 - [9]
 

Quote:
wont help, CCP cant even manage to make a char customisation editor thats usable and responsive, and thats ONE char on the screen.

If you go onto Duality you will see the performance is a good 10x what you get for the CC (on lower end systems, but not through the floor low).

Archbeholder
Posted - 2011.05.31 04:22:00 - [10]
 

At first its just instances, then it's orcs and elves, mark my words general forum!!!11

EnslaverOfMinmatar
Amarr
Posted - 2011.05.31 04:42:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Archbeholder
At first its just instances, then it's orcs and elves, mark my words general forum!!!11


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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
Posted - 2011.05.31 05:19:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 31/05/2011 05:31:04
Originally by: fgft Athonille
walking in stations will all be instanced.

why. because they dont have any netcode for the characters and the actual characters themselves are way too highpoly to have multiple on the screen. so everything will be instanced.

lets take a moment and laugh at ccp. claimed they would never have instances in their game, as we get instances.


Huh? Every solar system is already an instance. They're just accessible for everyone, but they're all instances nevertheless.
Originally by: Kharamete
Eve has always been instanced. Jita is an instance. As is every other solar system in the game. It's just not an exclusive instance, bound to a set amount of players.

The OP could, of course, claim that every solar system in the game is run off the same process, something that would be terribly wrong. Since it's not like that, the OP is meaningless.

The new station evironments will be like what we've always had, I suppose. Non-exclusive instances that are open to the rest of the game world.

Exactly.

fgft Athonille
Posted - 2011.05.31 05:21:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Sadayiel

Meh for sure you never played Everquest and did an old trip tru Bazaar with everything on high, a place with more than 500ppl in busy servers was doable and that was back like 5-6 years ago.


everquest was much better coded than eve is and everquest graphics were designed to handle lots of things on screen at once.

wis isnt, the models are way too highpoly for even top of the line machines to handle more than 10 or so

voiddragon
Posted - 2011.05.31 05:24:00 - [14]
 

Is it just me or do a lot of people in this thread have no idea what they're talking about.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2011.05.31 05:42:00 - [15]
 

The old hanger view wans't instanced?

wow I must of never knew how to explore other peoples hangers.

fgft Athonille
Posted - 2011.05.31 06:20:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: MotherMoon
The old hanger view wans't instanced?

wow I must of never knew how to explore other peoples hangers.


be a director and at a station where you have a cop officer.

done.

Axon Atom
Posted - 2011.05.31 06:21:00 - [17]
 

The CQ are not an instance

be a director and at a station where you have a cop officer.

done


 

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