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Joe450
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:26:00 - [211]
 

Edited by: Joe450 on 31/05/2011 13:26:45
War on lag




longer than the 100yr war


LaughingLaughingLaughing

Gregor Tagent
Gallente
N7 Corporation
Project Unconquerable
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:26:00 - [212]
 

christ alive, that was a slog to read, anywho, whhhhhhhhy, all i wanna do is scan down rat sites so my mate can keep losing drakes

Zippie2NL
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:26:00 - [213]
 

people just boring now i think
are waiting to put a laser on a rock and afk anyway
hahaahaaaa
waiting till there skill is complete to turn on the next... where does it end...
"skill training complete"{sexy woman voice } WOW now turn on the next to hear that again ,woot
who needs the top off the line graphic card for that thing,better have a good soundcard then :P

Archibald Creed
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:26:00 - [214]
 

patch... patch... patch... where is my OS X patch?!?!?ShockedShockedShockedShocked

Evil Stare
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:26:00 - [215]
 

Originally by: Cpt Vague
Edited by: eldeago on 31/05/2011 13:18:55
Ok another upgrade, the screen now freezes repeatedly at crucial moments, like jumps and combats, and the so called eye candy that CPP thinks makes the game more appealing to new comers, has actually taken away from the look and feel of eve.
Ihad to upgrade my computer twice sense joining eve,just to have it freeze and crash more than it use to. Your eye candy is taking away from the playability of the game. Enough is enough. Leave us the frack alone.


PC specs would help here, so that we can mock you as a community.Razz

WCPistolPete
Gallente
MacroIntel
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:27:00 - [216]
 

Edited by: WCPistolPete on 31/05/2011 13:40:40
Originally by: Evil Stare
...cutting edge AMD K6 based machine with S3 graphics and Voodoo 2. Laughing


This reminded me of playing Descent/2/3 back in the day. Laughing

Lady Go Diveher
The Independent Troll Society
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:28:00 - [217]
 

Originally by: Shawn Evolves
Here are my specs, please someone tell me if I'll still be able to play


Yes - your card supports shader 4.0, so you're probably good with Eve for a long while

Toovhon
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:28:00 - [218]
 

Originally by: Mists Rage
I swear..

The reason we have progressed so slowly in graphics is because of two reasons. One: people who insist in buying ONLY consoles. Two: people who want every game to work on their Commodore 64.

Honestly, spend a few extra bucks and set yourself up for the next few years. And no, you don't have to buy the "latest" anything, just you would do the world a favor if you kept yourself AT LEAST two years behind.

Also, "Mac" and "Apple" are synonyms "trash". If you own one, you have just spent $1000 for some genuine ****.



Why do platform bigots always want to yell "I'm an idiot!" in public? If I was an idiot, I'd not publicise it. But that's just me...

TLWE
Polish Lords' Confederacy
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:28:00 - [219]
 

Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 30/05/2011 19:38:32



Has CCP considered the concept of releasing the patches to a download cache on our machines the DAY BEFORE it GOES LIVE?

That way, we don't have to wait until up time to download 550mb (for a render engine) before logging on.

Sure there is some last minute tweaks, but that is due to a bad test strategy, but even with that you can still last minute deploy a SMALLER patch.

I don't see why this cannot be done as I'm sure you have frozen your release a day or so before (or maybe even futher before) going live.

Just suggesting because there is customers here where patch day is very painful. (Kind of like trying to play Blu Ray, or sodomizing oneself with a Blu Ray box)




Hi Miilla!

I think 2 years ago when we both were starting this mmo in RMS corp, CCP made it painfully clear why they do not follow this suggestion. The argument line was, if I remember this still correctly, that things works differently with main base on Tranquility then the one on Singularity. So much differently that they feared the first 500mb patch would need second patch of 500mb plus another 100mb patch for patching the first 500mb. Sorry for any eventual memory miss on my side. :)

Anyhow if some CCP staff member cared to give an official anno domini 2011 explanation to folks like Miilla, it would be cool. Not everyone like me sit on cool 10mbit fiber. :)

Still Miilla, you are not playing from some African country famous for the scam emails, are you? :)

Zippie2NL
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:29:00 - [220]
 

Originally by: Shawn Evolves
Here are my specs, please someone tell me if I'll still be able to play.. I'm not all that tech savvy..


Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac10,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 3.06 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version: IM101.00CC.B00
SMC Version (system): 1.52f9

NVIDIA GeForce 9400:

Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce 9400
Type: GPU
Bus: PCI
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Device ID: 0x0869
Revision ID: 0x00b1
ROM Revision: 3454
Displays:
iMac:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Built-In: Yes
Display Connector:
Status: No Display Connected








good mac computer wit h4 gig ram that you can use instead of windows only 3 gig
good video card ,nothing wrong with this mac

Josefine Etrange
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:30:00 - [221]
 

Originally by: Kobayashi Marru
Originally by: Josefine Etrange
Edited by: Josefine Etrange on 31/05/2011 12:50:14
Originally by: Kobayashi Marru
. It's a Hand Built PC, u can just upgrade parts of it for $350 and have hardware that is better then the best Mac. That's why we do it, u can continually upgrade only the parts of your PC that needs upgrade, and if u already have a kick ass case, and monitor, you have Style as well. And if its Intel, or u want to deal with a little more work, u can hackintosh it and have OS X as well. I know this because I am speaking from experience.
Sure u paid for style, but you are still an idiot.


Quote:
And now, donīt tell me if you spend 350$ for some hardware updates, they just appear magical in your system, building a system from scratch is as free as minerals in eve.


What? Magically appear in a system? When did I say that? It's called using your hands, and a screwdriver after having made sure you are not stock full of static electricity.


Hey, you are the guy who told us that you get for 350$ "hardwar that is better then the best Mac" and Mac Pros are not servers, they are just normal workstations. They are not as consumer orientated as iMacs for sure, but they offer the option to upgrade any part of the system just as any other tower pc ;-)
If you want to update your system, thats the way to go. Though I admit as gaming system they have to much cpu power and gfx updates are to expensive, so they would be anyway a poor choice, but so are iMacs. No Apple System is build for gaming.

And for using your own hands and a screwdriver. It is all fine, it still takes time, I donīt know how fast you build up a system from scratch, it takes me normally around 60 minutes, sometimes faster sometimes longer, depending on the case + at least 60 minutes for software installation (MS Updates hurray) and another 30 minutes minimum for backups, which a Mac a new system takes about 15 minutes for migrating my user data and plugin the power cord. Donīt know what you take per hour, but somehow pre-fab sounds a lot more attractive to me since it stop living at my parents place. At least if I get something that runs more than 3 years stable without hardware failure. And yeah, dust can be a problem in any computer, but when I speak of "burn", I could as well have just written "fry" and mean just a general hardware failure for whatever reason. I still have here 5 or 6 asus mainboards which simply did not live long enough to see my powerbook die. The timing of the mainboard failure as well as the timing failure at several asus gfx cards suggest that asus simply is building hardware with planed obsolescence of about 2 1/2 years. At least it seems so to me, a shame because asus was building quality some years ago.

And now do not start telling me anything about quality psu, somehow I got the feeling that I am building systems longer than you. ;)

Toovhon
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:30:00 - [222]
 

Originally by: Megas Pavlos
God Mac users love to have a good cry don't they, They should all switch to playing Myst & sit in awe in how well it plays on their over priced yuppy doosh magnets.


Wow, someone's insecure about their choice :-D

A Blinker
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:32:00 - [223]
 

Originally by: Zippie2NL
Originally by: Shawn Evolves
Here are my specs, please someone tell me if I'll still be able to play.. I'm not all that tech savvy..


Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac10,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 3.06 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version: IM101.00CC.B00
SMC Version (system): 1.52f9

NVIDIA GeForce 9400:

Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce 9400
Type: GPU
Bus: PCI
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Device ID: 0x0869
Revision ID: 0x00b1
ROM Revision: 3454
Displays:
iMac:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Built-In: Yes
Display Connector:
Status: No Display Connected








good mac computer wit h4 gig ram that you can use instead of windows only 3 gig
good video card ,nothing wrong with this mac




apart from its a mac

Frapedoforos
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:32:00 - [224]
 



--
good mac computer wit h4 gig ram that you can use instead of windows only 3 gig
good video card ,nothing wrong with this mac
--

Linux AMD64 and Windows XP 64 were released ages ago....
Good trolling though, especcially the gfx thing(ITS CRAP BUT PLAYS EVE....)

Toovhon
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:33:00 - [225]
 

Originally by: FlopSter
To all the people *****ing because they run a mac:

Blame yourself for paying 50% more on hardware than the rest of us do. If you built your own PC(pretty easy to do, and lots of nerds around to help you), you could have had a *****ing machine that runs eve very well on the cheap. I only spent $350 total on my rig and I can run 4-5 eve clients at a time with little degradation to performance.

Suck it up that you got brainwashed by Apple into thinking a mac was superior in any way. Sell it on ebay while there are still gullible people to buy it for top dollar, pocket 1/2 of the cash, spend the other half on a faster system to play this glorious game we have here.


I've never had any malware issues in 12 years. Nor have I had to fight my OS to get my work done. I wonder why you're so insecure about your choices :-D You sad, pathetic little platform bigots. Get a life... really... :-D

Dr Slaughter
Minmatar
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:33:00 - [226]
 

Originally by: WCPistolPete
of playing Descent/2/3 back in the day. Laughing
ah.. you just brought back a memory of 'testing' the Barco projector at Novell UK's conference theater room with Descent. We got motion sickness in less than 5 minutes of play Laughing

Orgm
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:34:00 - [227]
 

'over priced yuppy doosh magnets'

LOL! YARRRR!!

keserooz
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:34:00 - [228]
 

Originally by: Kobayashi Marru
Edited by: Kobayashi Marru on 31/05/2011 13:07:50
Originally by: Quoc Pham
Originally by: Kobayashi Marru
Edited by: Kobayashi Marru on 31/05/2011 12:47:56
Edited by: Kobayashi Marru on 31/05/2011 12:46:20
Originally by: keserooz

Clearly you didn't read his post, he didn't upgrade as he states in his post... And well done for having experience in computers/computing you must be the only person in the world then?



He wrote one line. It can be interpreted many ways. He could of not replaced his monitor for example, and with $350 not buying a monitor you can still buy a Hand Built PC that that will play 5 Eve clients. That's the beauty of AMD getting their ass handed to them by Intel, they have cut their prices.

How did I miss his point exactly?, as I fail to see your point.


WOW!! Your trying sooo hard... I truly believe the only person you're trying to convince that a PC is good, is your self. So go ahead and carry on good sir.. But each to his own i guess, as its all down to your budget when buying a machine in the first place..


Eliminating ignorance is sometimes a motivation for me, curious tho I had the incentive to ignore the rest of this forum thread, but u got one more post out of me.

Convincing myself? In my opinion a new Mac is quite possibly almost identical to a new PC depending on make, except for the Mac having that cutting edge EFI instead of a bios (comparing them performance wise, not the aesthetics). The point was people with old computers, and one having the option of not shelling out an arm and a leg for modern hardware where it matters, and the other having no option but to shell out for that modern hardware. Like you said, if you can afford a new Mac as often as needed, more power to you. Or perhaps just bootcamp u can get some better driver support. Yet with the economy as it is, I highly doubt that many people have said option to replace their aged mac, and this forum is proof.


Yep, better than twiddling your fingers waiting for EVE.. And the MAC PC thing always gets some good banter going...

d'Arma Edd
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:35:00 - [229]
 

I hope devs will be able to do many good things to UI with this new UI engine.
Like LAGER FONTS for hi-res video modes (FullHD-like).Evil or Very Mad

TLWE
Polish Lords' Confederacy
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:36:00 - [230]
 

Originally by: Larodil
Why don't you guys go download Clear Skies 3 and watch that.. it's 1 hour and 13 minutes and will more than fill your downtime..


Sounds like a good idea. But why no link to YouTube? This movie looks like to be 1 hour 13 minutes long.

"Clear Skies 3"

From the first comment: "The third installment to the most famous machinama of the EVE Online universe. Copyright by Ian Chisholm, see http://www.clearskiesthemovie.com/".

This should cut out a bit of idle whining today about the patch (all posts have their UTC in upper left corner for all UTC confused), which officially does not any nerf. LaughingShockedLaughing... We will see what stealth changes been later as usual. Rolling Eyes

Mintenkaichi
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:37:00 - [231]
 

Originally by: Prince Spiderman
Edited by: Prince Spiderman on 31/05/2011 12:08:43

Let me count:
>
< -- Cool Stuff -- >
>
> SGI Personal Iris
> more RAM
> SGI Indigo2 Extreme
> more RAM
> DEC ALPHA
>
<-- More cool stuff -- >
>

to be continued...




No o2, octane, octane2, or fuel?? Very Happy I miss the days of sgi Crying or Very sad

Joe450
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:37:00 - [232]
 

Originally by: d'Arma Edd
I hope devs will be able to do many good things to UI with this new UI engine.
Like LAGER FONTS for hi-res video modes (FullHD-like).Evil or Very Mad



try putting your glasses on, that always works

Josefine Etrange
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:38:00 - [233]
 

Originally by: Zippie2NL

good mac computer wit h4 gig ram that you can use instead of windows only 3 gig
good video card ,nothing wrong with this mac



You are really living in the past, ainīt you?
I mean, come on, since when Microsoft offers 64-bit consumer operating systems? 25th April 2005? ;-)
No need to bash windows without point.

Brycesv1
Caldari
Elko Bail Bonds
Lonely Maple Conglomeration
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:38:00 - [234]
 

i love listening to everyone cry about needing a better comp. do any of you remember how crap eve was when it was first released? would u rather the game never be updated so that it can continue to run on decomposing public school computers? CCP keep making eve better and frack the newbs who are too stubborn to adjust to future technology. We dont want them flying our internet spaceships anyway.

Kobayashi Marru
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:38:00 - [235]
 

Edited by: Kobayashi Marru on 31/05/2011 13:39:06
Originally by: Josefine Etrange

Hey, you are the guy who told us that you get for 350$ "hardwar that is better then the best Mac" and Mac Pros are not servers, they are just normal workstations. They are not as consumer orientated as iMacs for sure, but they offer the option to upgrade any part of the system just as any other tower pc ;-)
If you want to update your system, thats the way to go. Though I admit as gaming system they have to much cpu power and gfx updates are to expensive, so they would be anyway a poor choice, but so are iMacs. No Apple System is build for gaming.

And for using your own hands and a screwdriver. It is all fine, it still takes time, I donīt know how fast you build up a system from scratch, it takes me normally around 60 minutes, sometimes faster sometimes longer, depending on the case + at least 60 minutes for software installation (MS Updates hurray) and another 30 minutes minimum for backups, which a Mac a new system takes about 15 minutes for migrating my user data and plugin the power cord. Donīt know what you take per hour, but somehow pre-fab sounds a lot more attractive to me since it stop living at my parents place. At least if I get something that runs more than 3 years stable without hardware failure. And yeah, dust can be a problem in any computer, but when I speak of "burn", I could as well have just written "fry" and mean just a general hardware failure for whatever reason. I still have here 5 or 6 asus mainboards which simply did not live long enough to see my powerbook die. The timing of the mainboard failure as well as the timing failure at several asus gfx cards suggest that asus simply is building hardware with planed obsolescence of about 2 1/2 years. At least it seems so to me, a shame because asus was building quality some years ago.

And now do not start telling me anything about quality psu, somehow I got the feeling that I am building systems longer than you. ;)



Well, quality control from Apple is fairly awesome (save things like the mobile phone antenna, or the batteries that explode upon touch with a screwdriver).

Like I said I don't use Asus, I tend to like gigabyte, and the Abit motherboard with the first AMD dual core processor ever is still running in the living room (super old). Nice to see Apple's claim of ease of use is still in effect, no disagreement here.

Costigan Borgia
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:38:00 - [236]
 

Ok, guys, the question of 1600 UTC not being Earth time was a bit of a pun ... Thanks to all who replied even so.

I assume its the same as military time? 1600 = 4pm? If so whats that mean for the east coast of the US? I'm assuming around 12 noon. Yes?

Joanna Houghton
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:42:00 - [237]
 

i know we all like upgrades but how many after hours patches or emergency shut downs is there going to be ??

its always just as things get back to normal ccp starts shaking things again :(

its time ccp worked on the little things that players are always shouting about.

Zippie2NL
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:43:00 - [238]
 

Originally by: Costigan Borgia
Ok, guys, the question of 1600 UTC not being Earth time was a bit of a pun ... Thanks to all who replied even so.

I assume its the same as military time? 1600 = 4pm? If so whats that mean for the east coast of the US? I'm assuming around 12 noon. Yes?


there is somewhere on google or somthing a calculator with world time,i gues GMT is used for europe ,and AM/PM for usa EST ,eastern standard time
etc,
server is located in ice land so,that 1/2 earlier then usa and about 4 hours later then europe something like that..

CrazyConflict
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:44:00 - [239]
 

Yes should be up around noon

eldeago
Posted - 2011.05.31 13:44:00 - [240]
 

Originally by: eldeago
Edited by: eldeago on 31/05/2011 13:18:55
Ok another upgrade, the screen now freezes repeatedly at crucial moments, like jumps and combats, and the so called eye candy that CPP thinks makes the game more appealing to new comers, has actually taken away from the look and feel of eve.
Ihad to upgrade my computer twice sense joining eve,just to have it freeze and crash more than it use to. Your eye candy is taking away from the playability of the game. Enough is enough. Leave us the frack alone.


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