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Ebisou
Origin.
Posted - 2011.05.29 07:36:00 - [1]
 

Forced Gold Farming in China
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.05.29 07:43:00 - [2]
 

Yeah... this meme isn't taking off

Laura Kingsley
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2011.05.29 08:10:00 - [3]
 

Isn't that about Vherokior?

Playing Eve
Posted - 2011.05.29 16:00:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Ebisou
Forced Gold Farming in China
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This is another reason why buying PLEX for ISK is not the same as buying isk from gold farmers. Don't support the slave trade.

Scarlet des Loupes
Gallente
University of Caille
Posted - 2011.05.29 16:10:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Playing Eve
This is another reason why buying PLEX for ISK is not the same as buying isk from gold farmers. Don't support the slave trade.

You get more though. In the NPC channel I read you get 2B for $30, that's a lot more than plexes.


Zoroa Aulx-Gao
Koa Mai Hoku
Destiny Corrupted.
Posted - 2011.05.29 16:13:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Scarlet des Loupes
Originally by: Playing Eve
This is another reason why buying PLEX for ISK is not the same as buying isk from gold farmers. Don't support the slave trade.

You get more though. In the NPC channel I read you get 2B for $30, that's a lot more than plexes.




Inb4 mods.

Heimdallofasgard
APEX ARDENT COALITION
Nulli Tertius
Posted - 2011.05.29 17:43:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Zoroa Aulx-Gao
Originally by: Scarlet des Loupes
Originally by: Playing Eve
This is another reason why buying PLEX for ISK is not the same as buying isk from gold farmers. Don't support the slave trade.

You get more though. In the NPC channel I read you get 2B for $30, that's a lot more than plexes.




Inb4 mods.


also inb4 mods

Hectanooga
Posted - 2011.05.29 17:51:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Heimdallofasgard
Originally by: Zoroa Aulx-Gao
Originally by: Scarlet des Loupes
Originally by: Playing Eve
This is another reason why buying PLEX for ISK is not the same as buying isk from gold farmers. Don't support the slave trade.

You get more though. In the NPC channel I read you get 2B for $30, that's a lot more than plexes.




Inb4 mods.


also inb4 mods


also also inb4 mods

Scarlet des Loupes
Gallente
University of Caille
Posted - 2011.05.29 17:56:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Hectanooga
Originally by: Heimdallofasgard
Originally by: Zoroa Aulx-Gao
Originally by: Scarlet des Loupes
You get more though. In the NPC channel I read you get 2B for $30, that's a lot more than plexes.



Inb4 mods.


also inb4 mods


also also inb4 mods

Pff am I not just stating what everybody already knows? If CCP wants to fight botter RMT trades effectively I think it's not a bad idea to let PLEX prices rise a bit more - which btw is exactly what's happening with these AUR shop things.

Mars Theran
Caldari
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.29 18:22:00 - [10]
 

I was reading that on another forum yesterday. Not sure the prisoner in question was being completely honest, but generally it is believable and probably mostly true.

What I was thinking when I read this, wasn't so much related to those poor Chinese prisoners or sweatshop slaves, but more directed to various other factors. I'll see if I can remember some of it.

Oh yeah.. This was not fun for them. Being forced to grind endlessly and repetetively for ingame currency and being tortured if they couldn't meet quota's. This is just in the prison camp btw, where they also happened to work at various other menial tasks such as carving chopsticks and toothpicks from planks of wood, mining and making car seat covers for factories elsewhere. Not in the sweatshops where they get forced to play these games for members of the criminal underworld.

You'd think in a place where hard labor swinging a pick for endless hours at rock, or carving planks to make toothpicks and chopsticks until your hands were raw and bleeding, playing a game would be a nice change of pace. Not so apparently, and with torture resulting from unmet quotas actually occuring regularly, apparently even that wasn't enough encouragement for them to play.

So.. is the grind really worth it. They farm it, others buy it, and games are designed to make it harder to achieve large amounts of in game currency, while people claim that grinding is an encouragement to play. I know for one, I personally hate grinding and find it hard to believe that others do, which makes me of the same mindset as the prisoners, though thankfully I'm not physically tortured for non-compliance in the matter. Personally I'd rather swing a pick in a rock quarry all day, than grind yet another stipend of earnings in any game.

I still do a bit, but as time passes I discover less interest in playing games, resulting from the continuous grind which far exceeds any value the game was thought to have in storyline or other rewards. Eventually, I may not play at all, and games will slowly filter down on my things to do list, until they fall off the list entirely. Considering all I do is work and sit at home on the internet most days, thats a bit surprising.

Regardless, a few notes on quotes below.

Quote:
According to figures from the China Internet Centre, nearly 1.2bn of make- believe currencies were traded in China in 2008
- That's roughly 2 Billion dollars USD.

Quote:
In 2009 the central government issued a directive defining how fictional currencies could be traded,
- This is apparently encouraged in China, despite breaching multiple contracts and laws elsewhere.

Yeah I know, I wasn't aware of that before now, for those that were and will respond with disbelief.

Quote:
You would see some exploitation where employers would make workers play 12 hours a day
- Really? That's not the sort of business most people do, now is it.

Skydell
Caldari
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2011.05.29 18:47:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Scarlet des Loupes
Pff am I not just stating what everybody already knows? If CCP wants to fight botter RMT trades effectively I think it's not a bad idea to let PLEX prices rise a bit more - which btw is exactly what's happening with these AUR shop things.



Greed is like most things, you will always find someone greedier than you. I've seen it at 5 billion for $35 and I think it's pretty accurate the bot bann hammer is related to this. CCP need to strike a balance between buying ISK from Plex as a convenience and essential game play. Alternative, make your own macro pay for your account as well got us Super Cap Blobs so that doesnt work.

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C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.29 18:47:00 - [12]
 

Moved from General Discussion.

EnslaverOfMinmatar
Amarr
Posted - 2011.05.29 18:54:00 - [13]
 

From now on I'll be forcing all my minmaturd slaves to play EVE Online and then I'll take all their isk.

Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.30 13:59:00 - [14]
 

Sad that this much is going on over a game. Or that players enable RMT to begin with. Want to fight RMT? Make the players belive RMT is bad. If nobody buys "wow gold" nobody would sell.

But I guess playing WOW beats staring at a brick wall in prison.

EnslaverOfMinmatar
Amarr
Posted - 2011.05.31 00:12:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Sad that this much is going on over a game. Or that players enable RMT to begin with. Want to fight RMT? Make the players belive RMT is bad. If nobody buys "wow gold" nobody would sell.

But I guess playing WOW beats staring at a brick wall in prison.


Wrong. Brick wall's graphics are 100% realistic.


 

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