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Chui Menta
Posted - 2011.06.04 12:25:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: patteSatan
Originally by: MotherMoon
So it seems only about 600-1000 people were ever interested in watching these matches. Not wroth the time and effort for CCP but thanks to the great uploaders!


Thats about half the ppl that watches the tournament nowadays anyway, so you say it isnt worth it for CCP?


are you kidding? 12,300 people tunes into the live stream last year. what is with this forum this year : O


I'd say half the players are too lazy to read the forums, and considering most players don't know about the home-made streams, there are not as many viewers Rolling Eyes

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2011.06.04 13:13:00 - [32]
 

Don't get me wrong, I love the live stream I can't get enough : )

But I'm not going to be a child about it, I'm grateful to ccp for doubling the live coverage this year and for them doing it AT ALL.

I remember when the allince tourny was at about the quality that these videos are it's nostalgic. And i do agree that with more time in place they should let a 3rd party in to commentate even if it's just over eve radio.

But I also understand that not many people are going to be as interesting in these smaller matches. If we look into the future, the playerbase doesn't want 7 weeks of live coverage. That's horribly unreasonable on the volunteers.

It's not like they are getting paid to to do the allaince tourny.

Random Womble
Minmatar
Emo Rangers
Electric Monkey Overlords
Posted - 2011.06.04 13:42:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: MotherMoon
Don't get me wrong, I love the live stream I can't get enough : )

But I'm not going to be a child about it, I'm grateful to ccp for doubling the live coverage this year and for them doing it AT ALL.

I remember when the allince tourny was at about the quality that these videos are it's nostalgic. And i do agree that with more time in place they should let a 3rd party in to commentate even if it's just over eve radio.

But I also understand that not many people are going to be as interesting in these smaller matches. If we look into the future, the playerbase doesn't want 7 weeks of live coverage. That's horribly unreasonable on the volunteers.

It's not like they are getting paid to to do the allaince tourny.


The doubled the amount of studio coverage not the amount of live coverage.

Live coverage was reduced by 1/3 in favour of more studio coverage (unless im really forgetful here) personally I would rather have more live coverage of the matches than studio filler.

And that's still no excuse for not letting the radio stations even do coverage.

With regards to not getting paid to do the tourney its worth remembering that at the very least as far as I'm aware loxy got employed following CCP working closely with eve-radio to do live coverage of the early tourneys and of fanfest. And some of the others were employed following commentating and putting in aps. Finally none of the competitors get paid to do it and you might think thats a stupid statement but given that without competitors there would be no tournament and the likes of soundwave from what he has said elsewhere really enjoy their time running and most importantly hosting the tournaments so arguably they should appreciate the people that allow them those opportunitys as much as those people should appreciate the devs for putting the tournament on. Right now the players feel that the devs have not appreciated them from the start and no doubt the devs now feel the players dont appreciate their hard work but they have brought it on themselves.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2011.06.04 16:34:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Random Womble
Originally by: MotherMoon
Don't get me wrong, I love the live stream I can't get enough : )

But I'm not going to be a child about it, I'm grateful to ccp for doubling the live coverage this year and for them doing it AT ALL.

I remember when the allince tourny was at about the quality that these videos are it's nostalgic. And i do agree that with more time in place they should let a 3rd party in to commentate even if it's just over eve radio.

But I also understand that not many people are going to be as interesting in these smaller matches. If we look into the future, the playerbase doesn't want 7 weeks of live coverage. That's horribly unreasonable on the volunteers.

It's not like they are getting paid to to do the allaince tourny.


The doubled the amount of studio coverage not the amount of live coverage.

Live coverage was reduced by 1/3 in favour of more studio coverage (unless im really forgetful here) personally I would rather have more live coverage of the matches than studio filler.

And that's still no excuse for not letting the radio stations even do coverage.

With regards to not getting paid to do the tourney its worth remembering that at the very least as far as I'm aware loxy got employed following CCP working closely with eve-radio to do live coverage of the early tourneys and of fanfest. And some of the others were employed following commentating and putting in aps. Finally none of the competitors get paid to do it and you might think thats a stupid statement but given that without competitors there would be no tournament and the likes of soundwave from what he has said elsewhere really enjoy their time running and most importantly hosting the tournaments so arguably they should appreciate the people that allow them those opportunitys as much as those people should appreciate the devs for putting the tournament on. Right now the players feel that the devs have not appreciated them from the start and no doubt the devs now feel the players dont appreciate their hard work but they have brought it on themselves.


I agree with pretty much your whole post other than that very very last part. I don't think the devs have brought this apon themselfs.

but yes there is no excuse for why they won't let in a 3rd party to stream, however I can understand from a big business sand point that it's just too late to make the change tis year.

I'm just trying to make a call for sanity here. That there are lots of valid complaints, like everything you posted. Bu the hostile attitude is not construction, and in fact is way to hurtful towards the devs spending their free time to run this whole thing. There is way to bring up concrens without acting like children is all I'm saying.

For instance if there any allaince that is really so upset about the coverage, then they could step out in protest. I fact they all could.


Not in hateful F you ccp, way. But in a honorable way. like we are sorry, but we want our matches to be covered by a 3rd party. If you won't do that we won't fight.

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2011.06.04 17:28:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Random Womble
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That's the nature of modern media, there is more money in talking about the news than actually reporting it.

They messed up bad in not arranging some kind of broadcast from pre-quals, we can only hope they learned the lesson and have something in place next time around.

Mystic Bull
Chaos From Order
Sev3rance
Posted - 2011.06.04 23:28:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Mystic Bull on 04/06/2011 23:34:47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90cNHg936s8

It's boring but there it is. Props to MVHI for bringing gallente and I think 40 person alliance is always going to have trouble fielding what they would like to.

Raquel Smith
Caldari
Freedom-Technologies
Sev3rance
Posted - 2011.06.05 02:00:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Mystic Bull
Edited by: Mystic Bull on 04/06/2011 23:34:47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90cNHg936s8

It's boring but there it is. Props to MVHI for bringing gallente and I think 40 person alliance is always going to have trouble fielding what they would like to.


Linkage


Zief
Posted - 2011.06.05 03:29:00 - [38]
 

Awesome. Neat to see it from the players perspective.

Velox Versutus
Minmatar
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.06.05 07:51:00 - [39]
 

RvB - Red Federation vs Test Alliance Please Ignore

Watch it in 720p, you know you wanna.


Paranon
Posted - 2011.06.05 11:17:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Mystic Bull
Edited by: Mystic Bull on 04/06/2011 23:34:47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90cNHg936s8

It's boring but there it is. Props to MVHI for bringing gallente and I think 40 person alliance is always going to have trouble fielding what they would like to.


Thanks very much, you can only fight whats on the field.

Originally by: Velox Versutus
RvB - Red Federation vs Test Alliance Please Ignore

Watch it in 720p, you know you wanna.




Good camera work, good music choice, good fight.

For the love of god confirm your jams!

Cheers,

Para

kloma
Red Federation
Posted - 2011.06.05 11:20:00 - [41]
 

confirm jams
confirm jams
confirm jams

nice vid velox GJ

Anna Grahm
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.05 16:58:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Paranon
Edited by: Paranon on 05/06/2011 11:20:34Morsus Mihi vs. Vanguard Imperium



Badass piloting by the scimitar pilot. But why didn't he use his missile launcher? He fitted it so why not lob some missiles at enemy drones or ships?

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.05 17:34:00 - [43]
 

Youtube was very fast to block Test Alliance Please Ignore vs RvB - Red Federation :/

Velox Versutus
Minmatar
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.06.05 17:39:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Velox Versutus on 05/06/2011 17:56:38
Edited by: Velox Versutus on 05/06/2011 17:40:52
Originally by: Naomi Wildfire
Youtube was very fast to block Test Alliance Please Ignore vs RvB - Red Federation :/


Still up, if it gets pulled for the music I can upload a version with just our chatter.

Thanks for the comments guys.

Edit: looks like it has been blocked in Germany, maybe someone can give him a workaround?

Random Womble
Minmatar
Emo Rangers
Electric Monkey Overlords
Posted - 2011.06.05 18:10:00 - [45]
 

-EMO- V ECHO from last weekend.

We will post a vid or 2 of the fight this weekend in the next few days that may or may not have TS chat with it

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.05 18:14:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Velox Versutus
Edited by: Velox Versutus on 05/06/2011 17:56:38
Edited by: Velox Versutus on 05/06/2011 17:40:52
Originally by: Naomi Wildfire
Youtube was very fast to block Test Alliance Please Ignore vs RvB - Red Federation :/


Still up, if it gets pulled for the music I can upload a version with just our chatter.

Thanks for the comments guys.

Edit: looks like it has been blocked in Germany, maybe someone can give him a workaround?


Its best with just the chatter.

MongWen
Xeno Tech Corp
Self Destruct.
Posted - 2011.06.05 20:53:00 - [47]
 


Velox Versutus
Minmatar
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.06.05 21:05:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Naomi Wildfire
Originally by: Velox Versutus
Edited by: Velox Versutus on 05/06/2011 17:56:38
Edited by: Velox Versutus on 05/06/2011 17:40:52
Originally by: Naomi Wildfire
Youtube was very fast to block Test Alliance Please Ignore vs RvB - Red Federation :/


Still up, if it gets pulled for the music I can upload a version with just our chatter.

Thanks for the comments guys.

Edit: looks like it has been blocked in Germany, maybe someone can give him a workaround?


Its best with just the chatter.


Roger, here you go:

RvB Red vs Test

Neddy Fox
Gallente
FireStar Inc
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.05 22:12:00 - [49]
 

ME vs PL b-team

Notes :
30 minutes before the match, our hauler went missing, and we had to buy new ships, modules and implants.
Sabres and Sleipnirs where missing important ones, so no mindlinks where running.

Yes we learned...

Only the scimitar had a full set, which proved :)

Paranon
Posted - 2011.06.05 22:16:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Paranon on 05/06/2011 22:45:12
I hope teams keep recording through the group stages, I for one, am really enjoying seeing the fights from the pilots point of view.

The "official" feed we get from CCP actually feels pretty removed from the fight at times, whereas some of the movies provided by the teams have been really great stuff, letting you see not only that Ship A killed Ship B, but how they did it too.

Para

Edit:
Originally by: Neddy Fox
ME vs PL b-team

Notes :
30 minutes before the match, our hauler went missing, and we had to buy new ships, modules and implants.
Sabres and Sleipnirs where missing important ones, so no mindlinks where running.

Yes we learned...

Only the scimitar had a full set, which proved :)



Congratulations on the win gents, very good fight! Why no fraps of the pre-fight drama and tears though? Smile

Any ideas why they switched off your scimi and back on later? Seemed like he was on his way down when they stopped hitting him.

colera deldios
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.06 01:10:00 - [51]
 

Nice work on the fraps guys. Lol'd pretty hard at how bitter Test were when they got spanked by RvB. RvB > Draep.

Neddy Fox
Gallente
FireStar Inc
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.06 06:30:00 - [52]
 

Edited by: Neddy Fox on 06/06/2011 06:31:06
Originally by: Paranon
Edited by: Paranon on 05/06/2011 22:45:12
Congratulations on the win gents, very good fight! Why no fraps of the pre-fight drama and tears though? Smile

Any ideas why they switched off your scimi and back on later? Seemed like he was on his way down when they stopped hitting him.



Obviously too busy, frantically trying to gather all modules and ships, finding some implants not available, and having EVERYTHING traded to me. At which point I panicked, and just equipped my ship first, grabbed the implants, and handed the remaining stuff to the next guy :)

As for not killing the scimi: They failed to use precision missiles, AND we had damps ourselves too. As they realized they cuoldn't kill me fast enough they switched..

IceGuerilla
Amarr
Poseidon's Wingmen
Perihelion Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.06 11:08:00 - [53]
 

Perihelion Alliance v Rote Kapelle

Report:
We assembled three T3 ships and a salvaging cormorant to go and run some PVE sites in Jove space. We warped to a cosmic anomaly called "Battle Arena 1", but before we could start running it, a group of pirates warped in on us. They must've had a bubble or something, because it wouldn't let us warp out. Anyway, we managed to kill them, though unfortunately we lost our cormorant.

SirJoJo
Nomads
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2011.06.06 13:38:00 - [54]
 


amarri victari
Posted - 2011.06.06 21:44:00 - [55]
 

nice work on the vids girls - keep them coming, is great to see it going down

AMARR VICTOR !

Paranon
Posted - 2011.06.09 13:28:00 - [56]
 

Group stages in a couple of days, please, please keep the Fraps coming in guys, lets add some depth to to the fights!

Para

Scythus Aratan
Poseidon's Wingmen
Perihelion Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.09 13:30:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Paranon
Group stages in a couple of days, please, please keep the Fraps coming in guys, lets add some depth to to the fights!

Para


There will be CCP proper came****ople and commentators - do people still want pilot fraps?

Seldarine
Minmatar
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2011.06.09 14:05:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Scythus Aratan
Originally by: Paranon
Group stages in a couple of days, please, please keep the Fraps coming in guys, lets add some depth to to the fights!

Para


There will be CCP proper came****ople and commentators - do people still want pilot fraps?


I hope this guy realises that EVETV does infact exist.

As for fraps of matches, it is sometimes nice to see how a match unfolds from the eyes of one of the teams, along with listening to how they FCed it. Also good to lol at how terrible people fly their ships.

Paranon
Posted - 2011.06.10 01:39:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Seldarine
Originally by: Scythus Aratan
Originally by: Paranon
Group stages in a couple of days, please, please keep the Fraps coming in guys, lets add some depth to to the fights!

Para


There will be CCP proper came****ople and commentators - do people still want pilot fraps?


I hope this guy realises that EVETV does infact exist.


This guy does realise EVETV exists, has been watching the Alliance Tournaments since AT4, but is not always satisfied with the coverage or commentary... ugh


As for fraps of matches, it is sometimes nice to see how a match unfolds from the eyes of one of the teams, along with listening to how they FCed it. Also good to lol at how terrible people fly their ships.



Completely Agree.


Paranon
Posted - 2011.06.12 11:17:00 - [60]
 

Lack of Imagination vs Black Legion up.

Para


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