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Sarz'na Khumatari
Posted - 2011.05.28 15:45:00 - [1]

It is not often that I write such things, but hey, I'm feeling down.

This alliance tournament is starting with what may actually be the worst coverage of any tournament. While the second half will be live streamed with I'm sure the level of polish we enjoyed in AT8, the first half of the tournament will be neither seen nor heard by anyone not present in the arena.

I have to ask, what then is the point of two weekends of qualifiers that we will neither see nor hear?

This is a community event to which the community was not invited.

Live streaming has its costs, to be sure. But in previous tournamenmts the opening weekends were at least provided with an audio commentary on fansites such as EVE Radio or simply through EVE Voice.

Even in the early days before EVE TV and EVE Voice, I recall that CCP allowed each alliance to send an 'observer' along to watch the fight and commentate over TS/Vent to their own alliance. At least then we could sit rigid in our seats, headphones cradled to our ears as our guys fought for our good name.

In this tournament, half of all the competing alliances will have been eliminated before anyone gets to so much as hear a shot fired.

I have all due respect and appreciation for the volunteers in the Interstellar Correspondents, but being presented with the match stats after the fact is no substitute. It might as well be a link to a killboard for all the connection I will feel to it.

Good luck to my alliance mates fighting in a few moments, while I'm rooting for you I'm afraid I won't exactly be cheering you on this time round.

CCP, I hope you can pull something out of the bag and deliver on at least an EVE Voice commentation for next weekend. The community is crying out for it.

Posted - 2011.05.28 15:48:00 - [2]

I approve of this message

Dinta Zembo
Posted - 2011.05.28 15:48:00 - [3]

I bow to you sir.

Valator Uel
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.05.28 15:51:00 - [4]

Quite amazing that they can update how much isk was fielded/lost but they fail to do simple things like show what ships are being fielded.

I guess I'll be back tonight to F5 the page and see results.

Posted - 2011.05.28 15:51:00 - [5]

Edited by: Hydraka on 28/05/2011 15:51:19
Originally by: Valator Uel
Quite amazing that they can update how much isk was fielded/lost but they fail to do simple things like show what ships are being fielded.

Posted - 2011.05.28 15:54:00 - [6]

Ya, i'm usally by te "CCP side" but this time i did not.

Posted - 2011.05.28 15:59:00 - [7]

Edited by: VioleTAK on 28/05/2011 16:13:08
I was looking forward to this... sooo sooo much.
I just waited for Eve TV to kick in today... And it never did.
I'm shocked to hear you're not streaming this.

CCP... What... is... wrong... with... you?


Aineko Macx
Posted - 2011.05.28 15:59:00 - [8]

It amazes me time and again how CCP ignores what the players really want. And in this case it'd even double as marketing... stoopid :facepalm:

Freyja Valfreyja
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:01:00 - [9]


CCP could have recorded the dam matches and uploaded them to youtube!

i am very disappointed this year, i was hoping to sit back and stream the feed on my TV and watch it but i guess ill go play some other game

Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:01:00 - [10]

Fully agreed. CCP made a bad judgement call.

Black Legion.
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:02:00 - [11]

What he said, please sort out Eve Radio for next weekend or something.

Cyfrowy Polsat
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:02:00 - [12]

This is a very diplomatic and polite way to summarize the posts/topics that sprung up right after the tournament "started". I'll refrain from saying anything more just to keep this post "diplomatic and polite".

Milli Rachet
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:03:00 - [13]

CCP keeps doing what they are best at.


oh snap
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:03:00 - [14]

I approve of this message.

Faster Muffins
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:04:00 - [15]

/signed. Just a terrible call by CCP, the whole point of the tournament is to benefit the community with some entertainment value. What a disappointment.

Black Legion.
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:04:00 - [16]

O dear, this man from Ushra'Khan is right.

Ivan Rakijas
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:09:00 - [17]

I completely agree, with so many people eagerly awaiting for (rare) tournament events and looking forward to fights and to comment setups of teams etc, CCP surely droped the ball on this one.

Financial Removal
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:12:00 - [18]


Community manager should be looking into mirror by now, and feeling pretty horrible.

Dude, you just failed the whole eve PVP community, and half of the carebears aswell.



Posted - 2011.05.28 16:13:00 - [19]


"This is a community event to which the community was not invited." summs it up perfectly for me

Cunane Jeran
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:15:00 - [20]


Posted - 2011.05.28 16:18:00 - [21]

Allaince tournament has 5 players this year and no coverage - I think the first 32 losing allaince should get there 2b refunded

Goobai Vapor
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:18:00 - [22]

Dear CCP - You suck. No audio or video? You guys broke, bro? Laughing

Cyfrowy Polsat
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:22:00 - [23]

Originally by: EvilsIndustryHore
I think the first 32 losing allaince should get there 2b refunded

OH NOES! What would the CCP chief-economist say about that much isk going back into the game! Laughing

2tone stevens
The Drones Club
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:31:00 - [24]


I'm surprised CCP isn't trying to charge us for it.

Just fearless
Phantom Squad
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:32:00 - [25]

Edited by: Just fearless on 28/05/2011 16:33:12
Just bad customer servesConfused

Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:35:00 - [26]

If CCP really have confidence in EVE Voice, then why not just use this medium to broadcast a running commentary of the preliminary rounds.

Well done Ugleb for starting this thread.

CCP srsly? Community events are better received when the community are a part of the event.

Black Legion.
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:36:00 - [27]

Paisti syndicate just streamed their own match on like a boss.

Posted - 2011.05.28 16:37:00 - [28]

Originally by: ookke
Paisti syndicate just streamed their own match on like a boss.

That should have been posted on the forum Crying or Very sad

Wolke 7
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:38:00 - [29]

What a letdown billions of iskies and devotion of the teams going boosh for nothing.

My bet is next year you can follow the stream AURUM/sec. Neutral

CCP Loxy

Posted - 2011.05.28 16:38:00 - [30]

This is a try at being adaptable and expanding the tournament for the future. In the televised group stages you'll see the top 32 teams, play multiple times, these teams have proved themselves in the qualifiers to be capable and we should have a great show.

These two weekends are the qualifiers, where we trim the poor teams from the ones with serious ambition. While there are bound to be some good fights here they won't be as good as the group stages, neither has been our coverage in the past which is why we are no longer streaming this part.

In my view the Tournament starts on the 11th with the group stages and the top 32 teams. We can not cover 4 weeks solid of the tournament, nor would a majority of EVE players want to get drowned in news of the tournament for four straight weeks, and in the future if we expand to bring in 128 teams and we have to run the tournament over 6 weeks or more we'll do the same again.

I know this is disappointing now, but we feel this is the best option for the tournament. We're increasing the full coverage from one weekend to two, and to compensate we're dropping the rather poor coverage of the unimportant rounds. When you settle in to watch the group stages and finals I'm sure you'll appreciate the decision.

I'll reply more after today's matches.

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