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Leocadminone
Posted - 2011.05.26 00:03:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Ghurthe
In 2008's fanfest Torfi showed us a playable demo of Incarna, it had the normal station view and a button that had you leave your ship.

There's no reason we can't have that with CQ.


THAT I would be in favor of.

There are a lot of us that have perfectly capable machines that do NOT have the massive bandwidth that Incarna seems to be designed for, and many MORE of us that don't have any INTEREST in this "walking around in stations" stuff at all.
There is NO REASON this stuff should be crammed down our throats.


Stark Furlough
Posted - 2011.05.26 00:34:00 - [32]
 

Personally, I have no problem with Incarna. And I happen to think all the people *****ing about it are sad, strange little people who seriously need to get out more.

That said, there is no reason for the CQ not to be optional other than to pad the uptake metrics so:

Supported!

Vandrion
Gallente
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2011.05.26 00:42:00 - [33]
 

Please for the love all things internet SPACESHIP related make CQ optional!Evil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad

Ghurthe
Posted - 2011.05.26 03:18:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Cyberus
Well there is plenty things in this game changed what lots of us do like and others not.

The game evolve and will continue to evolve in the future, so you have only 2 options;

a) accept it
b) or leave it.

There is also plenty of those guys who whine about they poor laptops cant run this/cant run that.

Well did those who complain even ever read what syster requirment EVE need to run?

Stop crying this game is already hold it back witt grafic's and such to try everyone be happy but CCP simply cant to not move forward with rest of the world or they simply will ruin they own business.

If you want to play this game for long period of time you have to accept the changes and you have to upgrade your systems at some period of time, thats atleast what you do when you buy other games, dont you?


Er... actually for all games, and MOST MMOs, system requirements generally don't change with time. And at least they don't change for effectively meaningless patches.

Ytamii Arval
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2011.05.26 03:52:00 - [35]
 

+1

Simple--we were promised Incarna would be optional, and that promise needs to be kept for all aspects of it. CCP needs to establish some credibility for the good of the game; it's long overdue.

adriaans
Amarr
Ankaa.
Nair Al-Zaurak
Posted - 2011.05.26 05:02:00 - [36]
 

Supporting.


Not for computer reasons but because I don't want to use Incarna, and I hate forced stuff.


Roh Voleto
Posted - 2011.05.26 06:40:00 - [37]
 

I like what we have seen on Duality, and am looking forward to spin my character instead of my ship whenever I spend more than a few minutes docked.


Most of the time I only dock to load some cargo, get the next mission, or do a quick refit, though. In those situations the CQ will be a major immersion breaker.

Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom

Posted - 2011.05.26 10:25:00 - [38]
 

yes. optional please.

Masjheira
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.05.26 11:00:00 - [39]
 

I support the topic.

Screw you CCP if you **** us up making it non-optionnal.

This was the "deal" when you first announced all this crap walking stuff.

lots of players don't give a damn about having a sims in Eve, I play Eve for adrenalin, for excitation of fights, not to see my character in 3D.

You were drunk once, or get a lead designer completely stupid who convinced you guys to make a Sims-like feature that would take 3 years of development? Ok, don't worry, you'll pay it in the end, but don't make it non-optionnal as there are still LOTS of people who don't wanna have anything to do with that crap.

So please. For this game's sakes, make it optionnal.
i don't wanna have some more lag, some more loading just because you were drunk and made the worst decision ever about game design.

Make it optionnal, as it doesn't bring ANYTHING to the game.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.05.26 11:28:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Tyme Xandr
Check out the new dev blog. all the station buttons will still be available. If you dont hit your arrow keys u wont even have to deal with it. Im logging into my FB now to pull the dev blog for you.


Log into duality on a machine with less than 512MB of graphics RAM and note that even on low detail settings, it takes minutes to get to the point that you can actually click those omnipresent buttons.

Over to you Laughing

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.05.26 11:38:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Stark Furlough
Personally, I have no problem with Incarna. And I happen to think all the people *****ing about it are sad, strange little people who seriously need to get out more.


What does that make the people *****ing about the people *****ing about CQ? Laughing

Azhpol
Gallente
Casa Del Wombat
Posted - 2011.05.26 11:45:00 - [42]
 

signed, simply so that the dinosaurs who can't handle progress will shut up about it Rolling Eyes

Mars Theran
Caldari
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.26 11:50:00 - [43]
 

I wasn't aware they had removed the option to have it optional. No reason it shouldn't be, except to force players to use it, or make it an immersive experience for new players, by placing them in that environment first, with no option.

So make it optional to not use CQ, by pushing a button that says no. Like so: Q: Enter CQ? A: No!

Personally, i'm not going to use it until it has somethinbg t o back it up and give it purpose. Try it out sure, once in awhile to make sure it still works? Why not. But stand in my CQ everytime I dock, or whenever I'm docked? Not likely.

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
Posted - 2011.05.26 11:54:00 - [44]
 

Can we also make suicide ganking optional? A lot of folk don't want it.

Can we make PVP optional too? I sure hate when I get pvp'd.

Also, please make undocking optional. Ship spinning is great fun, and CQ seems to be messing that up. I've not seen any demos showing that ship spinning is still possible on the hologram or in the hangar.

OH WAIT!

It wouldn't be an equal environment for everyone if those things were optional. Same goes with Incarna.

Not supported.






Ghurthe
Posted - 2011.05.26 12:03:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: War Kitten
Can we also make suicide ganking optional? A lot of folk don't want it.

Can we make PVP optional too? I sure hate when I get pvp'd.

Also, please make undocking optional. Ship spinning is great fun, and CQ seems to be messing that up. I've not seen any demos showing that ship spinning is still possible on the hologram or in the hangar.

OH WAIT!

It wouldn't be an equal environment for everyone if those things were optional. Same goes with Incarna.

Not supported.








Actually, it's significantly different. This is more like being able to disable the intro video at every log in because not everyone wants to watch the pretty cutscene every time they log in.

Soden Rah
Gallente
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2011.05.26 12:20:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: War Kitten
Can we also make suicide ganking optional? A lot of folk don't want it.

Can we make PVP optional too? I sure hate when I get pvp'd.

Also, please make undocking optional. Ship spinning is great fun, and CQ seems to be messing that up. I've not seen any demos showing that ship spinning is still possible on the hologram or in the hangar.

OH WAIT!

It wouldn't be an equal environment for everyone if those things were optional. Same goes with Incarna.

Not supported.








Undocking IS optional... ever heard of station trading?

you have a choice of whether or not you do certain things in eve, like missioning, or mining. atm incarna has no content, if/when it gains content that people want to use, people can choose whether or not to take part in it (whether we automatically appear in CQ or not). CCP can't make people use incarna, all they can do is make people load it. Making it optional hurts no-one and does nothing to make eve unequal.

TheLostPenguin
Posted - 2011.05.26 15:58:00 - [47]
 

Supported for sure, there's no good reason for this NOT to be optional, those saying it makes more work for CCP seem to be ignoring that this has already been implemented in the earlier version shown, then REMOVED for whatever reasonugh

Simple checkbox for preference somewhere in esc settings, and button to load from current hangar, simple, easy, and everyones happyVery Happy

Corina's Bodyguard
Posted - 2011.05.26 16:41:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Mara Rinn
Originally by: Tyme Xandr
Check out the new dev blog. all the station buttons will still be available. If you dont hit your arrow keys u wont even have to deal with it. Im logging into my FB now to pull the dev blog for you.


Log into duality on a machine with less than 512MB of graphics RAM and note that even on low detail settings, it takes minutes to get to the point that you can actually click those omnipresent buttons.

Over to you Laughing

If your system is that poor (which mine is come to think of it) then simply tell Windows not to allow access to the CQ texture file (which is not an EULA breach, you are not doing anything to any part of EVE, Windows is simply preventing part of it from graphically loading).

Ghurthe
Posted - 2011.05.26 17:05:00 - [49]
 

For reference purposes these are my specs.

I get about 5 fps on lowest settings on duality with these.

Intel® Core™ i5-650 Processor2 3.2GHz
8192MB DDR3 Dual-Channel 1333MHz Memory
NVIDIA® GeForce® G310 Graphics Card 512MB

Tyme Xandr
Gallente
State Protectorate
Posted - 2011.05.26 17:12:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Tyme Xandr on 26/05/2011 17:13:03
Originally by: Ghurthe
For reference purposes these are my specs.

I get about 5 fps on lowest settings on duality with these.

Intel® Core™ i5-650 Processor2 3.2GHz
8192MB DDR3 Dual-Channel 1333MHz Memory
NVIDIA® GeForce® G310 Graphics Card 512MB


My tower, which I tend not to use, has lower settings then that and I get 18-24 fps. Are you running tranq at the same time?

Of course it seems that most of the textures used to not load. An update must have been recent because now it even works on my laptop.

Ghurthe
Posted - 2011.05.26 17:55:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Tyme Xandr
Edited by: Tyme Xandr on 26/05/2011 17:13:03
Originally by: Ghurthe
For reference purposes these are my specs.

I get about 5 fps on lowest settings on duality with these.

Intel® Core™ i5-650 Processor2 3.2GHz
8192MB DDR3 Dual-Channel 1333MHz Memory
NVIDIA® GeForce® G310 Graphics Card 512MB


My tower, which I tend not to use, has lower settings then that and I get 18-24 fps. Are you running tranq at the same time?

Of course it seems that most of the textures used to not load. An update must have been recent because now it even works on my laptop.


Nope, nothing at all but CQ *shrug* runs 5 clients of TQ with no problems too.

Thanks for the info tho, maybe my graphics card just doesn't like CQ.

Random Womble
Minmatar
Emo Rangers
Electric Monkey Overlords
Posted - 2011.05.26 18:30:00 - [52]
 

TBH the only real reason that i can see why CCP have made it so currently we will be forced to leave our ships is because lets be honest after 2 minutes in CQ very few are going to bother looking at it again its not like there is really any content.

Herping yourDerp
Posted - 2011.05.26 19:38:00 - [53]
 

i like spinning my ship.

Sragir
Kshatriyas
Posted - 2011.05.26 22:07:00 - [54]
 

I would like to have the option to load Incarna or not.

When the Incursion patch came out, My pc could not load EVE anymore, because it does not support SSE2. Before the patch, it could ran 2 accounts easily. It still works with other stuff. I also read the forums and read how most people were ranting those who could not afford to upgrade their pc, which I'm one of them. ( CCP stated this SSE2 would affect only 0.03% of the playerbase)

So now I was forced to use the laptop, although it has issue's when I do character creation. With EVE Online in low settings, I'm able to run 1 account only. I need to shut one account to acces the other. Now with this Incarna coming up, my laptop will not be able to load it.

So after nearly 7 years playing EVE, not the 21st of may, but 21st of june will be Sragir's judgement day.


Evil or Very Mad And to those, who always have their smart opinions:
NO, I have no ****ing magic tree in my backyard, where fallen leaves turn into shiny €100,00 banknotes.





Khaeros
Posted - 2011.05.27 07:08:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Roh Voleto

Most of the time I only dock to load some cargo, get the next mission, or do a quick refit, though. In those situations the CQ will be a major immersion breaker.


This really.

The process of decanting a capsuleer is too time consuming for quick cargo load/unload, plus it is demeaning (that's what the crew is for) and often unnecessary.

Dirlewanger
Posted - 2011.05.27 12:42:00 - [56]
 

Optional.

If it takes more than 0.1 second to load, then I do not want it unless when I choose it.

Its useless fluff, good for when you feel like fluff but shouldn't be in the way otherwise.

Odin Bannister
Posted - 2011.05.27 12:47:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Odin Bannister on 27/05/2011 12:47:27
Here was my post from the developer's blog...

Originally by: Odin Bannister


Filtering out all the crap, I think I can agree with the option to turn off the CQ aspect for those players that don't want or can't immediately use the CQ feature due to hardware constraints. Yes, they should upgrade their hardware sometime if they can't run the new features very well, but not everyone can run out to the store right away. You'll know better than us what sort of resource requirements will be needed above and beyond what we are using now. All that I ask is that you maybe put together some sort of chart or graph showing the users what immediate future expansions might require so that users that are willing to move forward with EVE can plan their own expansions in hardware accordingly (ie expected bandwidth, maybe a card benchmark or better yet, a website that allows testing user's PC to see where they fall if they aren't gearheads). EVE appears to be interested in pushing the technology envelope in regards to game play, graphics, etc. That carries with it a bit of responsibility to keep customers informed if you're going to change something that may affect them financially. After all, you take a look at R.O.I.'s and equipment costings when you plan to upgrade, why would you expect the users to do otherwise?

Respectfully,
- A supporter of EVE

Hennrik
J-CORP
Fuzzy Logec
Posted - 2011.05.27 13:58:00 - [58]
 

Supported. Please make it optional.

I am much looking forward to character animation in WoD.
But please don't abuse our beloved spaceships game as a tech demo.
There is a reason I am playing Eve and not THE SIMS. No need for mini games.

Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists

Posted - 2011.05.27 17:55:00 - [59]
 

Supported for immersion reasons: I can't imagine me getting out of pod, washed and clothed just because I forgot to load my mining crystals.

Gariboldi Phiron
Posted - 2011.05.27 17:59:00 - [60]
 

I want CQ/Incarna to be optional


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