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Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.05.25 02:06:00 - [1]
 

I have often wondered what this game would have been like from the start if there was not three characters per account, but just the one.

The obvious differences would have been things like, character trading would be incredibly hard to accomplish. Scouts would mean a real scout. Not some throw away NPC shuttle. Pirates would not have had a hauler to fetch them supplies from Jita while their main spun ships with a -10.0 security status in low sec. Podding a cyno kestrel in low sec would have more meaning knowing he has a clone to replace that would be more and more expensive the older he was. Obviously you can't turn back the clock and change this because the cat is already out of the bag so to speak.

What other things can you think of, minor or major, that would be totally different if EVE started off with just the one character per account?

@ CCP, what influenced the decision to have more than one character per account and why three?

Aeronwen Carys
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.05.25 02:13:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Marlona Sky
I have often wondered what this game would have been like from the start if there was not three characters per account, but just the one.

The obvious differences would have been things like, character trading would be incredibly hard to accomplish. Scouts would mean a real scout. Not some throw away NPC shuttle. Pirates would not have had a hauler to fetch them supplies from Jita while their main spun ships with a -10.0 security status in low sec. Podding a cyno kestrel in low sec would have more meaning knowing he has a clone to replace that would be more and more expensive the older he was. Obviously you can't turn back the clock and change this because the cat is already out of the bag so to speak.

What other things can you think of, minor or major, that would be totally different if EVE started off with just the one character per account?

@ CCP, what influenced the decision to have more than one character per account and why three?


You answered your own questions, why do you need us or CCP to do so?

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2011.05.25 02:22:00 - [3]
 

Jita, Rens, Amarr Local quite as a mouse.

Nuetral RR Alts out of Crop have to stay that way. No more flying cool ships in War Dec's.

Super Capital Pilots Trapped.

Uuali
Posted - 2011.05.25 02:22:00 - [4]
 

Sure would be a lot more player interdependency. CCP seems to want to promote more of that but CCP killed their own game.

Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
Posted - 2011.05.25 02:27:00 - [5]
 

well, who knows? Maybe they'll delete all the alts, and refund the lost skillpoints to your main for re-allocation :)

Henry Uliver
Posted - 2011.05.25 02:54:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Ris Dnalor
well, who knows? Maybe they'll delete all the alts, and refund the lost skillpoints to your main for re-allocation :)


WTS character 800mil sp unallocated.

Shigeru Potatomoto
Posted - 2011.05.25 03:19:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Shigeru Potatomoto on 25/05/2011 03:27:23
Edited by: Shigeru Potatomoto on 25/05/2011 03:24:40
I've wondered that myself....first of all, people would still use multiple accounts thanks to the plex system, and you can only train one toon at a time per account anyway so being down to one guy probably wouldn't matter.

Originally by: Ris Dnalor
well, who knows? Maybe they'll delete all the alts, and refund the lost skillpoints to your main for re-allocation :)


I remember their "power of two" promo a year ago--offering a discount for a second account, so sadly alts are just going to be the norm till Iceland's Mega-Volcano finally wakes up and buries the EVE servers in hot lava.

Off Topic
Posted - 2011.05.25 05:19:00 - [8]
 

I couldn't make an alt to post on the forums, could I? BTW, did anybody else get a cold hot dog at lunch today?

Astroka
Posted - 2011.05.25 05:21:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Shigeru Potatomoto
till Iceland's Mega-Volcano finally wakes up and buries the EVE servers in hot lava.

The EVE servers are located in London, England - not Iceland.

Amber Accelerando
Posted - 2011.05.25 06:06:00 - [10]
 

Ummm, I'm confuse? Is this a question? NVM! The answer is yes, we have 3 characters per account, only one can train at a time.

Skydell
Caldari
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2011.05.25 06:22:00 - [11]
 

I have 5 accounts, 15 characters.
4 mains, 11 alts.

If there had been one char per acount, I'd have 5 charcters, there would be no mains or alts.

What would be different?
Nothing. All 4 mains can fly covert Ops, 2 of the 3 on the 5th account can fly covert Ops. All the mains can act as scouts for the other mains. The alts just increase my PI harvest.

theRaptor
Caldari
Tactical Operations
Posted - 2011.05.25 09:01:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: theRaptor on 25/05/2011 09:01:55
Originally by: Marlona Sky
What other things can you think of, minor or major, that would be totally different if EVE started off with just the one character per account?


Nothing, because everything you listed is mostly done by people with multiple accounts. Even alt scouting in a shuttle is barely better then what you can figure out from the map. For it to be really useful you need to do it with a second account.

Mnengli Noiliffe
Posted - 2011.05.25 10:39:00 - [13]
 

no 20 free research/manufacturing slots per acc, probably stuff would be more expensive

Mitchello
B O R G
Posted - 2011.05.25 12:02:00 - [14]
 

I could imagine there being a bit more general mental health.

Right now we're all designed to be schizofrenic and think nothing of it.


Lidia Prince
Caldari
Posted - 2011.05.25 12:45:00 - [15]
 

Who cares? The main problem is multi-boxing, not ability to create different characters on same account, it's normal for any MMO and doesn't affect the game much.

Ana Vyr
Caldari
Posted - 2011.05.25 14:07:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Lidia Prince
Who cares? The main problem is multi-boxing, not ability to create different characters on same account, it's normal for any MMO and doesn't affect the game much.


This.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.05.25 15:39:00 - [17]
 

The only significant difference would be that PI prices would triple.

Mamba Lev
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.05.25 15:45:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Mamba Lev on 25/05/2011 15:45:13
CCP gave you 3 slots to wave a carrot under your nose, letting you only train one of them so you saw the advantage of an alt and then have to buy an account if you wanted him to do more than just basic stuff. Shame their programming, QA and game design aren't up to the standard of their marketing.

Mister Rocknrolla
Posted - 2011.05.25 16:03:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Lidia Prince
Who cares? The main problem is multi-boxing, not ability to create different characters on same account, it's normal for any MMO and doesn't affect the game much.


Problem?

Tobiaz
Spacerats
Posted - 2011.05.25 18:59:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Ana Vyr
Originally by: Lidia Prince
Who cares? The main problem is multi-boxing, not ability to create different characters on same account, it's normal for any MMO and doesn't affect the game much.


This.


You really think that the ability to fund a PvP-char with another industry char that you only log in once in a while, does NOT affect the game? Rolling Eyes

Opertone
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.05.25 19:17:00 - [21]
 

there would be less anonymous dishonest behavior...

'look I steal billions, now I log on with different character! Bye Bye'

Eve would be great with 1 character per individual - no cheating, spying or noob****... You **** up your life, biomass and start over. KOS would mean a something.

Kwisat Haderach
Minmatar
ReallyPissedOff
Guinea Pigs
Posted - 2011.05.25 20:29:00 - [22]
 

When Eve Online came out, it was already the industry norm to have multiple character slots. When Star Wars Galaxies was in beta there was a rumor that there will be only 1 character slot available and that was met with outrage.
There was also very little information about the game so it was easy to mess up your character back then. With 3 slots you had the option to make a new character once you learned more about the game without deleting the first one.
And if you were a Brutor, the empty slots were great for Intaki alts with mass production and production efficiency Laughing .

Megalift
Omni Tech Engineering
Needless Friends
Posted - 2011.05.25 20:42:00 - [23]
 

I had an idea I shared where the basic account would be only a one slot account. That account could be upgraded with more monthly fee ofc. You could add more slots, more toons that can be online at once, and more trainible toons at one time. This would get ride of the need for one player to have muiltpule accounts but yet he can still play as many toons as he wishes.

Opertone
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.05.25 22:52:00 - [24]
 

what if you could create character only once per account?

Sure, it would stop all botting and RMT related ****.

If you were attached to your in game character, eve would be a quality place. Your life - your character's fate, both unique. You would not want to spam, steal or make bad impression of yourself, unless you want to be on ban list in every constellation.

iOSJake
Posted - 2011.05.25 23:27:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Off Topic
I couldn't make an alt to post on the forums, could I? BTW, did anybody else get a cold hot dog at lunch today?

This would happen ^^^ Aren't we all somebody's alt anyway?

LeoPI1
Posted - 2011.05.25 23:35:00 - [26]
 

Eve would probably DIE if it was limited somehow to one character per player.

I don't know ANYONE that has played the game more than a year that only has one account (I'm sure there's a FEW of you out there somewhere, but wouldn't bet on it).


Eve actually is SMALL on "characters per account" - almost every other MMORG offers you at least 6 and some up to 14 characters per account. Eve on the other hand doesn't "specialise" characters as much, there are no "character classes" so quite a bit less reason to have lots of "alt" characters.


Multiboxing has been part of MMORGdome for well over a decade now. It's NOT going away, and Eve in particular makes it a LOT more attractive than is it in most MMORGs.


Empirer Decartes
Syndicate Holdings
Posted - 2011.05.26 01:59:00 - [27]
 

No more throw away forum alt spammers, no more keeping track of 15 alts while hunting 1 guy. Sure he may still have 5 accounts, but I'd take that over 15 anyday.

Power to the movement I say. Anex multiple chars associated with an account. 1 per account sounds far to me.

Ed

theRaptor
Caldari
Tactical Operations
Posted - 2011.05.26 03:21:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Tobiaz
Originally by: Ana Vyr
Originally by: Lidia Prince
Who cares? The main problem is multi-boxing, not ability to create different characters on same account, it's normal for any MMO and doesn't affect the game much.


This.


You really think that the ability to fund a PvP-char with another industry char that you only log in once in a while, does NOT affect the game? Rolling Eyes


You think any significant amount of people do that on ONE account? Anyway hardly anyone does that, most people fund PVP chars through mission alts as industry is a lot harder to break into.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.05.26 04:48:00 - [29]
 

If there was a limit of one account and one character per paying player, things would be different for sure.

If there was only a limit of one character per account, I imagine things like datacores would be more expensive, and PLEX wouldn't be selling for as much as they are right now.

There would be less competition in any industrial market, since one account would have 1/3 the current manufacturing/research/invention capacity.

There would be a period of time where character trades become very low value, since the buyer knows that the seller is under pressure to sell immediately. The market would be flooded with cyno alts, covops alts, miner alts, R&D alts, yadda yadda. After that, the value of characters will increase significantly.


 

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