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LHA Tarawa
Posted - 2011.05.24 22:57:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Shiera Kuni
Isn't risk what EVE is all about though? The whole point of lowsec/nullsec is that you have greater rewards for greater risk.


Sure. Which is why null sec mining isn't really paying all that much better than high sec. The risk isnt' really higher... most of the time.

When it is all blue in system, I mine, rat, plex etc.

When a non-blue arrives in system, I dock up and go mission in high sec with a better ship where I make a tad less than null sec, but with very little risk.


The point is this. AFK cloaking doesn't generate a lot of kills for the cloaker nor does it prevent anyone from continuing to generate ISK.

The non-blue comes into system, everyone POSes or Docks up and then logs in to their high sec alts. The cloaky is just a mild annoyance.

It is a lame game mechanic that doesn't really make the game more fun for anyone. It makes people do lame things to work around it.

Seriously, is it really fun logging in, clicking the cloak, then leaving for work and laughing at all the people that now have to log into their high sec alts to mission?

Because it is a lame game mechanic that doesn't really make the game more fun for anyone, I think CCP should provide players with tools for dealing with ships that remain long-term cloaked in system.

Just my opinion of course.

Silence Roams
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.24 23:15:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: LHA Tarawa

Because it is a lame game mechanic that doesn't really make the game more fun for anyone, I think CCP should provide players with tools for dealing with ships that remain long-term cloaked in system.

Just my opinion of course.


As I related in a different thread

Cloaking in a hostile system exists for several reasons, here's a couple;

- Contact lists allow you to monitor online/offline times
- Local provides free instant intel on hostile movements
- Everybody docks up/poses up as soon as a Neut is reported (because of the free intel tool), there is only one way to defeat this...
- You are allowed to "AFK Dock", if you have a tool that uncloaks I need a tool the undocks players. Same for POSes
- You are allowed to Cloak up

If you "own" something you should be able to defend it, if you are unable to provide adequate defense for your members then that is your own internal issue, not CCPs. I feel that the reason for most of the AFK whining is because most people are unwilling/unable to motivate a group of people to police their space. This is mostly because the crying bears are typically the ones who are not Xing up, they expect others to X up and "protect" them while they zerg anoms so they can buy a shiny.

There is a reason why "home defense fleets" only happen when specific individuals are online, maybe you should be the type of person that organizes a fleet, develops a plan and executes said plan instead of a fearful station hugger boohooing on the forums.


Just a funny side note - your own alliance mates ( the ones you compete for anoms with) have their very own neutral alts, so for them the "benefit" you state is lacking is actually quite large. All of you boohooers go back to "safety sec" while they laugh.


Laruen Pleides
Posted - 2011.05.24 23:44:00 - [63]
 

I'm not into PvP, but if cloaking is a valid technology within the mechanics of the game, AFK Cloaking is just as valid.
In a war, the ability to evade the notice of the enemy is paramount. So far the "technology" within the game we play provides a tactical advantage to those who can cloak. Demanding that CCP add a feature that instantly resolves one groups problems is over the top, and akin to wanting a new type of Concord for every weak point.

I do like the idea of having some technology available to decloak other ships, as the cat-and-mouse game of invisibility has been played for centuries in the real world, but a tool/weapon that suddenly uncloaks every ship in an entire system is ridiculous.

Disadvantage is a fact of life in Eve. Players learn to adapt. If those adaptations affect CCP's bottom line, they will make changes, and players will adapt again.



Shiera Kuni
Repurposed Armaments
Posted - 2011.05.25 00:55:00 - [64]
 

It's as Silence said, an effective nullsec/lowsec corp will deploy a security force to protect their assets, those assets being the miners and ratters of their corp. If they're not doing that, they should be. It's a standard operating procedure in contested territory in any instance. If you have a known hostile in the area, step up your defense, or even bait them into attacking so that you can eliminate the threat. No offense but to cower in your POS or to switch to another alt doesn't make anything fun for anyone. When I come a-knocking, I'm not going to be afk, I'm going to be hunting and if someone is hunting me, it just makes things more interesting. Wink

Trust me, employ a security force and you'll find low/nullsec is far more profitable and hell, far more fun in my opinion. Then again, I like exciting, challenging kills. Anyway, I've made too much sense, I need to let my sense batteries recharge. Back to trolling.


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