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Kerowyn's
Posted - 2011.05.20 08:24:00 - [1]
 

Just got our second dread pilot trained today and sent him in for the 4th escalation.... nothing, nadda, nish, nowt.

Much groaning occured on coms Crying or Very sad

Where we doing sumat wrong or do you only get 3 escalations in a class 5 wh ?

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.20 09:12:00 - [2]
 

Always used to do 4...

Did you try to reuse a cap pilot?

Kerowyn's
Posted - 2011.05.20 09:28:00 - [3]
 

Heya Daneel, no 2 carriers, diff pilots, warped one dread in,, killed off that escalation, warped the next one in nowt (two diff pilots, two diff ships).

I know what you mean about trying to use the same ship twice with diff pilots but not the case this time.

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.20 09:32:00 - [4]
 

Either I'm rusty or that's wrong. Did you kill off everything before the 4th, or were you escalating with a trigger to a wave left, or just something from the final wave?

Kerowyn's
Posted - 2011.05.20 09:36:00 - [5]
 

Killed the whole plex, looted then warped in the final dread, maybe a mistake in retropect but at no time was the site left unattended and the buildings where still there.

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.20 11:17:00 - [6]
 

Yeah we were doing it by keeping the first trigger, then you get the cap ships dps for the rest of the site.

Kerowyn's
Posted - 2011.05.20 11:25:00 - [7]
 

I am sure we have done it the other way around, leaving the third escalation till last, but shrug will leave a frig alive and try it again.

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.20 11:28:00 - [8]
 


Biggles AU
Posted - 2011.05.20 11:41:00 - [9]
 

do caps cause escalations in cl4s? i didnt know that... interesting.

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.20 11:59:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Kerowyn's
class 5 wh

Kerowyn's
Posted - 2011.05.20 12:22:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Daneel Trevize
There was a little blip pre-DT


It might be related, but I doubt it, was way before 10:45.

Cant test the leaving a frig till the lads get on later, will do so then and post the result.

Kerowyn's
Posted - 2011.05.22 21:49:00 - [12]
 

Just gave it another go, only 3 escalations again and this time we left a frig alive, so not looking good, only thing we have not tried is doing all the escalations from the get to then doing the rest of the plex.

Will try that then post again.

Mr Majestyk
Combat and Recon
The Last Chancers.
Posted - 2011.05.22 22:20:00 - [13]
 

2 carrier escalations
2 dread escalations

Kerowyn's
Posted - 2011.05.22 23:00:00 - [14]
 

Just tried it again, did not kill any of the sites spawn only the escalations, same result, only 3 escalations.

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.22 23:24:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 22/05/2011 23:26:33
Let's be clear, you're getting:
carrier 1: 6BS escalation
carrier 2: 8BS more
dread 1: 6 more
dread 2: nothing?

Have you had a chance to vary which kind of cap goes first, or if you alternate? I realise this shouldn't/didn't matter, and full sites aren't the fastest thing especially if everyone's sick of it not working as expected. Perhaps you're all mirrored in viable ships on Sisi to check, or have someone in your home system in a scanny ship that can get you a route in to set up the same fleet?

Kerowyn's
Posted - 2011.05.22 23:26:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Daneel Trevize
Let's be clear, you're getting:
carrier 1: 6BS escalation
carrier 2: 8BS more
dread 1: 6 more
dread 2: nothing?


Exactly

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.22 23:28:00 - [17]
 

Tried a petition?

Kerowyn's
Posted - 2011.05.22 23:29:00 - [18]
 

Not yet, was hoping for a confirmed report that others were getting the 4 or had done in the past before petitioning.

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.22 23:43:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 22/05/2011 23:44:25
In a c5, 100% certain as of pre-neuting patch. And I'd have thought I'd have seen or heard of such a change if it had happened back then, or even now (not that I've searched the forums for other discussions of this). I'd get the ball rolling with the GMs/Devs.

Be sure to ask for the missing blue loot to be placed in your POS/as a corp delivery in Jita Wink

Kerowyn's
Posted - 2011.05.22 23:57:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Daneel Trevize
Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 22/05/2011 23:44:25
In a c5, 100% certain as of pre-neuting patch. And I'd have thought I'd have seen or heard of such a change if it had happened back then, or even now (not that I've searched the forums for other discussions of this). I'd get the ball rolling with the GMs/Devs.

Be sure to ask for the missing blue loot to be placed in your POS/as a corp delivery in Jita Wink


Aye lol will certainly try to get em to cough up but I wont be holding my breath.

Kerowyn's
Posted - 2011.05.23 01:39:00 - [21]
 

Ok found the problem, seems you have to have both dreads on the site at the same time, what we were doing was warping the dread out after the first escalation.

Thanks for the replies folks, think I would have just assumed there where only 3 without you guys confirming there were 4.



Xyolon
Posted - 2011.05.23 07:54:00 - [22]
 

You're talking about spawns in J-space anomalies.
Escalations are a completely different thing.
Escalations are a part of an expedition which always lead to a different system at least 4 jumps away from your current system which is of course nonsense when talking about J-space.

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.23 07:56:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 23/05/2011 07:59:07
No
Quote:
Sleeper Capital Escalation
Capital escalation is caused when you warp certain types of capital ships into a site. Capital escalation appears to be tied to two, and only two, classes of capitals (it should be obvious which two), with each having their own escalation chain. For each class, the first capital will spawn 6 Sleepless Guardians, the 2nd capital will spawn 8 Sleepless Guardians, additional capitals will not trigger any further escalation. This form of escalation was put in place to provide an additional challenge when bringing capital ships into a site. Capital escalation only happens on combat sites (i.e. Anomalies, Magnetometric, Radar) and does not occur at gas or asteroid belts (i.e. Ladar and Gravimetric).


The dreads vs carriers thing is odd, we'd been bouncing the carriers in and our asap to get to back in DPS BS/tackling frigs due to how we ran wolf-rayets (so as you were doing, only 1 in the anom at a time max). Guess we were lucky we didn't plan around bouncing the dreads instead.

Kerowyn's
Posted - 2011.05.23 11:31:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Daneel Trevize


The dreads vs carriers thing is odd, we'd been bouncing the carriers in and our asap to get to back in DPS BS/tackling frigs due to how we ran wolf-rayets (so as you were doing, only 1 in the anom at a time max). Guess we were lucky we didn't plan around bouncing the dreads instead.


Its all good, means I finally get to justify buying that Bhaalgorn I always wanted to buy Twisted Evil


 

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