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Imiarr Timshae
Caldari
Funny Men In Funny Hats
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:55:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 19/05/2011 16:58:53
Originally by: Patch Notces
Information on a pilot's standings towards NPC corporations is no longer visible from 'Show Info'. You now see the standings information between you and the other pilot and the factions you each belong to.


Change this back please CCP, or make standings show publicly with preferences, just like certificates.

Iella Wesirri
Caldari
Dead Rats Tell No Tales
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:02:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Imiarr Timshae
Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 19/05/2011 16:58:53
Originally by: Patch Notces
Information on a pilot's standings towards NPC corporations is no longer visible from 'Show Info'. You now see the standings information between you and the other pilot and the factions you each belong to.


Change this back please CCP, or make standings show publicly with preferences, just like certificates.


/signed

ItsmeHcK1
Lucifer's Hammer
Burn Away
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:03:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: ItsmeHcK1 on 19/05/2011 17:33:32
Originally by: Paul Clavet
I want to find the dev who implemented the probe movement change and kiss him/her on the mouth. Wink


This, oh god, a thousand times this. (I hope it's CCP StevieSG!)


Edit!
Also, did anyone realise this is like the first deadline CCP have actually made? :P
This calls for a celebration! Free SP for everyone!

Mark Foley
Funny Men In Funny Hats
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:04:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Iella Wesirri
Originally by: Imiarr Timshae
Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 19/05/2011 16:58:53
Originally by: Patch Notces
Information on a pilot's standings towards NPC corporations is no longer visible from 'Show Info'. You now see the standings information between you and the other pilot and the factions you each belong to.


Change this back please CCP, or make standings show publicly with preferences, just like certificates.


/signed


/signed

Digital Disco
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:08:00 - [35]
 

cant we have like the certifikates, that u can show the standing?

Want it back their u could see standing : (

Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:12:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Imiarr Timshae
Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 19/05/2011 16:58:53
Originally by: Patch Notces
Information on a pilot's standings towards NPC corporations is no longer visible from 'Show Info'. You now see the standings information between you and the other pilot and the factions you each belong to.


Change this back please CCP, or make standings show publicly with preferences, just like certificates.


Yes. Fix this immediately.

Glyken Touchon
Gallente
Independent Alchemists
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:12:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: CCP Soundwave devblog

The show info page won't show another players standing to EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE. From now on, it will only display standings relevant to you. This basically limits your ability to be a creepy stalker that keeps an eye on other peopleFs standings to random agents. It also simplifies the UI.

However, it appears that this information has been removed from the factions and not just players' show info screens.

example

There is now no way ingame to indicate who a faction's allies/enemies are. (Besides the obvious Gallente/Caldari, Minmatar/Amarr & Empire/pirate ones)

Was this deliberate or did it just slip through?

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:13:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Mark Foley
Originally by: Iella Wesirri
Originally by: Imiarr Timshae
Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 19/05/2011 16:58:53
Originally by: Patch Notces
Information on a pilot's standings towards NPC corporations is no longer visible from 'Show Info'. You now see the standings information between you and the other pilot and the factions you each belong to.


Change this back please CCP, or make standings show publicly with preferences, just like certificates.


/signed


/signed


+1 .. the like certificates route sounds like decent compromise.

The standings thing are an undeveloped role play assist part of the game that could be enhanced somewhere down the line.

It also bears on the players history, which seems to be so important to you all when it comes to name changes and stuff. I'd like to see more information on player taxes paid etc sort of like being able to look up past sales of fellow real estate brokers (as a member of the board of realtors) or being abel to look up municpal sales tax figures by company (if you know how)

Like kill-boards, these things help foster player knowledge of each other which ultimately creates a stronger sense of a virtual world of players who cannot hide from each other and where the in game history and reputation will follow them.

Penny Ibramovic
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:13:00 - [39]
 

The mission 'New Frontiers', given from a security agent, still has mining and courier elements.

Morar Santee
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:14:00 - [40]
 

The standings change needs to be reverted, period. It doesn't need to be changed or any additional coding to make display voluntary. Standing checks were an integral part of gameplay - and removing the possibility to perform them was, for the lack of a better word, stupid.
I don't know who makes the decisions to remove working features from a game - especially if all the new ones turn out to be bug-ridden and unpolished.

Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:15:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Imiarr Timshae
Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 19/05/2011 16:58:53
Originally by: Patch Notces
Information on a pilot's standings towards NPC corporations is no longer visible from 'Show Info'. You now see the standings information between you and the other pilot and the factions you each belong to.


Change this back please CCP, or make standings show publicly with preferences, just like certificates.


/sign

anvyl sky
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:15:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Imiarr Timshae
Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 19/05/2011 16:58:53
Originally by: Patch Notces
Information on a pilot's standings towards NPC corporations is no longer visible from 'Show Info'. You now see the standings information between you and the other pilot and the factions you each belong to.


Change this back please CCP, or make standings show publicly with preferences, just like certificates.


/signed

Abrazzar
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:17:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Penny Ibramovic
The mission 'New Frontiers', given from a security agent, still has mining and courier elements.

Thank you for pointing this out. The mission will be removed from the database with the next patch as it no longer fits with the mission system.Neutral

anvyl sky
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:26:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Penny Ibramovic
The mission 'New Frontiers', given from a security agent, still has mining and courier elements.

Thank you for pointing this out. The mission will be removed from the database with the next patch as it no longer fits with the mission system.Neutral


i think you forgot to switch to your ccp alt :)

Vincent Athena
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:26:00 - [45]
 

CCP, knowing the corp standings of recruits is important to know if they will mess up corp jump clone access. So now as part of the recruiting process, each applicant will have to take a screen shot of their standings and e-mail it to a recruitment officer. Is that really your intent?

Also to someone who mentioned New Frontiers: CCP said such multi-part mission strings belong to the agent type appropriate to the first mission of the string.


Tish Magev
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:30:00 - [46]
 

Ok new skill book DOESN'T WORK


Requested mission BEFORE Security Connections skillbook, so no LP bonus was being applied

Got 61510 Loyalty Points

Injected Skill, added banked skillpoints so skill is at level 4

Requested another missions

61510 Loyalty Points!!

Where The F**k is my bonus from level 4 Security Connections.

cheers

Skarii TuThess
East Aridia Trading Company
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:31:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Imiarr Timshae
Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 19/05/2011 16:58:53
Originally by: Patch Notces
Information on a pilot's standings towards NPC corporations is no longer visible from 'Show Info'. You now see the standings information between you and the other pilot and the factions you each belong to.


Change this back please CCP, or make standings show publicly with preferences, just like certificates.


/signed

Alien King
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:31:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Imiarr Timshae
Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 19/05/2011 16:58:53
Originally by: Patch Notces
Information on a pilot's standings towards NPC corporations is no longer visible from 'Show Info'. You now see the standings information between you and the other pilot and the factions you each belong to.


Change this back please CCP, or make standings show publicly with preferences, just like certificates.


/signed

Dalton Vanadis
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:37:00 - [49]
 

I'm going to have to agree with everyone else on the standings bit. That really was an integral feature for several aspects of gameplay, serving much like a quick background check on major references of interest. I think it reasonable for companies to know if they are hiring an excon.

Otherwise, I'll have to see what the agent changes have done to my mission base, but the scanning changes make my wormhole life oh so much happier.

Personally, I think people moaning about the jb change should really think about the difference between nerfing and removing an illogical and exploitive feature.

Additionally, I am eager to see what your guys' big plan is for all these changes to ISK making mechanics. I won't lie that they make me a bit nervous, because it's change to a system I'm used to, but I know that I'll adapt. I'm of the persuasion that the 0.0 nerf and the agent change are not the only two changes in a vacuum and that there are more balancing changes coming that will start to make it all make sense. I'd be interested to hear what they are, but EVE is a game of patience, so I guess I can wait for the surprise.

Good work, keep it up. Though I am excited for shiny new things, so bring this soon too!

lealenia Aivoras
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:44:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: anvyl sky
Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Penny Ibramovic
The mission 'New Frontiers', given from a security agent, still has mining and courier elements.

Thank you for pointing this out. The mission will be removed from the database with the next patch as it no longer fits with the mission system.Neutral


i think you forgot to switch to your ccp alt :)


LOL. I thought same thing when I saw first thought ccp alt. but dude tryin to say it will be removed as soon as you pointed out like other things . Dude is tryin to mock ccp since they love to remove. but it cant be understood at first since how its written



Toovhon
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:46:00 - [51]
 

CCP states one of their goals in nerfing away agent quality and access is to promote mission runners spreading more widely throughout space, instead of clumping together in a few systems as they did up till yesterday.

I enter Eve after the patch this morning. Five minutes later I work out there is only ONE Minmatar level IV agent in a 0.5 system (FYI - system sec now solely determines reward quality), whose constellation is totally high sec (combat missions never send you outside the agent's home constellation), and whose LP store is one of the large full featured ones (yeah - small LP stores are still valuable, but given the choice which would you rather grind LP for?).

Yeah... that really works to spread us out, eh CCP? :-D Well done! ******ing missioning worked perfectly...

vlad0821 Artwik
Posted - 2011.05.19 17:50:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Glyken Touchon
Originally by: CCP Soundwave devblog

The show info page won't show another players standing to EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE. From now on, it will only display standings relevant to you. This basically limits your ability to be a creepy stalker that keeps an eye on other peopleFs standings to random agents. It also simplifies the UI.

However, it appears that this information has been removed from the factions and not just players' show info screens.

example

There is now no way ingame to indicate who a faction's allies/enemies are. (Besides the obvious Gallente/Caldari, Minmatar/Amarr & Empire/pirate ones)

Was this deliberate or did it just slip through?


^^ this, revert it back please.

Velarra
Caldari
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
Posted - 2011.05.19 18:03:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Velarra on 19/05/2011 18:22:44
The option to specifically show all or certain standings with NPC Corps and Factions would be a much welcomed feature. See certificates and the granulated method permitted to display all, some or none of one's certs.

While the ability to hide one's standings is of great benefit to some, likewise would be the ability to selectively display one's standings.

For further commentary/support of the granulated approach see:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1511828&page=1#13

Tish Magev
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.05.19 18:09:00 - [54]
 

Seriously is no-one else getting no bonus's from the new skillbook??

sillyin
Posted - 2011.05.19 18:10:00 - [55]
 

Edited by: sillyin on 19/05/2011 18:19:27
I'm trying to wrap my mind around how nerfing capital jump bridge use could be beneficial to the 0.0 community, Yes major coalitions won't be able to use networks to move around their cap fleets as easily which in theory could reduce the size and allow newer alliances to squeeze into the gaps. Though what I see is forcing smaller alliances with capital fleets to be forced to take down cyno jammers to make any money in the already overcrowded systems effectively opening the door for the major coalitions to just walk all over them.
As for fixing lag by seeing less capital ships on the field I really don't see how that could work, If i'm not fighting in my carrier/dreadnaught I'll just be in another ship in exactly the same place.

Someone explain to me how this works please.

Lynnu
Minmatar
Wabbit Fabbit Industries
Posted - 2011.05.19 18:14:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Imiarr Timshae
Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 19/05/2011 16:58:53
Originally by: Patch Notces
Information on a pilot's standings towards NPC corporations is no longer visible from 'Show Info'. You now see the standings information between you and the other pilot and the factions you each belong to.


Change this back please CCP, or make standings show publicly with preferences, just like certificates.


/sign
Certificate way would be nice

Par0dy
Posted - 2011.05.19 18:21:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Par0dy on 19/05/2011 18:21:07
Originally by: Imiarr Timshae
Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 19/05/2011 16:58:53
Originally by: Patch Notces
Information on a pilot's standings towards NPC corporations is no longer visible from 'Show Info'. You now see the standings information between you and the other pilot and the factions you each belong to.


Change this back please CCP, or make standings show publicly with preferences, just like certificates.


/Signed

Naga Tokiba
Posted - 2011.05.19 18:24:00 - [58]
 

Uosusuokko VII - Moon 1 - State War Academy now has 2 Distribution agents - please change 1 of them to somehing else.

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2011.05.19 18:25:00 - [59]
 

ARRRRRRRG!!


Whoever chose the color scheme for the blueprint copies, should be kicked where it hurts!

My eyes are BLEEDING!

Jeez, that is so totally not EVE-like. Dark and dangerous universe? Yeah sure, lets litter it with increadible bright blueprint copies that also look really stupid.

Why didn't you just add a dashed frame around the blueprint? Or a C-O-P-Y logo running from top to bottom at the right side?

This is LAME!

Keilateau Shakor
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.05.19 18:34:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Imiarr Timshae
Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 19/05/2011 16:58:53
Originally by: Patch Notces
Information on a pilot's standings towards NPC corporations is no longer visible from 'Show Info'. You now see the standings information between you and the other pilot and the factions you each belong to.


Change this back please CCP, or make standings show publicly with preferences, just like certificates.

/signed


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