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CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.05.19 15:20:00 - [1]
 

EVE Online: Incursion 1.5 has been deployed. This patch includes the more little things from Team BFF along with many other highly anticipated fixes and changes. ‘Connections’ skills have been revamped which will result in players getting free skill points to spend and a much better skill tress for agent connections. Please check the patch notes for full details of this release.

We hope you enjoy this latest release and we encourage you to provide us with feedback. Please note that an*issues thread* already exists to report any problems you may experience with this release.

tekant
Posted - 2011.05.19 15:30:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: tekant on 19/05/2011 17:19:22



What New release brought us ? Jumpdrive ships nerfed, agents nerfed, skills deleted, character's agent info deleted, fleet options nerfed. Last patches of CCP are all about nerf and removal. Since Tyrannis very few improvement done and progress is very slow. It took 6 month to improve PI interface. We are crying for better Blueprint icons for a year and finally done but not as required.

. Still not possible to distinguish different run numbers, research amount. I can create approx. 20 copies in each lab everyday. Hundreds of copy each different ME, PE and run numbers. We have already hangar limit for 920 items. We have too keep all copies in containers . Seperating originals from copies wasn't difficult part. When you sorted the hangar originals always come first and copies come after. difficult part is finding any copy or original with specific run ME numebers. or seperating reserched BPOs from unreserched BPOs

Blueprints icons could be made similar to ammunition icons. They would include ME PE numbers , similar to ammo icons size numbers.
Here example Drake Blueprint original with 35ME and 110PE Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
This is how should have done.

Im sure EVE developers dont play eve more than 30min everyday , If they would there are bunch of UI usability issues everwhere from fleet to PI interface and they would see those.


We loved this game for its complexity, Off course We like to see improved user interface , easy to control , logical approach etc.. but Looks like they prefer to simpfy game mechanic instead of improving playability. Why don’t you go ahead and create EVE-Lite version?. Simple pew-pew game with one fire and one reload button.


CCP exceed Microsoft’s success to create releases, patches and fixes. All their efforts divided between fixing bugs after changes and trying to simply game instead of adding new features. I wish they spend this effort to bring new features, instead of destroying old ones.




Drac Dragnog
Amarr
Armada Defense Force
Lawful Insanity
Posted - 2011.05.19 15:44:00 - [3]
 

I like the changes for production and the blueprint change is more then Welcome in my corp, as we are producing hundreds of copies a day, its making it a pain to get the BPO out of that mess. I surely do appreciate that. After coming back from a multiyear sabattical to this, I actually am impressed on some of the ease of functionality.

Anyway only thing I could ask is faster respawn of WH space sites... but then again if we had too many we would have to fight much more for our lil pocket.

Oview
Posted - 2011.05.19 15:45:00 - [4]
 

Unable to download file mac/evepremiumpatch247655-259851-mac.tgz from the server.
Error: [Errno socket error] [Errno 11001] getaddrinfo failed: 'thread::getaddrinfo failed with error 11001: An error has occurred of type WSAHOST_NOT_FOUND\r\n'

Subrahmaya Chandrasekhar
Amarr
J0urneys End
Posted - 2011.05.19 15:45:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Subrahmaya Chandrasekhar on 19/05/2011 23:57:20
I don't care what anybody says. I'm excited. A whole new paradigm to explore. Right here. Right now. Very Happy
later that day...
need... <heavy breathing> ...more... <stumbling noise, objects clattering> ...skill... points.. <groaning, then silence> ..."please sir, may I have some more?
Very Happy

Tierra en Vanille
Posted - 2011.05.19 15:48:00 - [6]
 

Unable to download file mac/evepremiumpatch247655-259851-mac.tgz from the server.
Error: [Errno socket error] [Errno 11001] getaddrinfo failed: 'thread::getaddrinfo failed with error 11001: An error has occurred of type WSAHOST_NOT_FOUND\r\n'

Chan Su
Caldari
Posted - 2011.05.19 15:49:00 - [7]
 

looks like you forgot to seed the new connections skill books. At least I dont see them...not in inventory...not on market.

Kerianya
Posted - 2011.05.19 15:50:00 - [8]
 

I like most of the changes, but could you guys add some extra agents to the stations so we don't have to jump out almost 20 jumps just to do level 4's? I don't feel like having to just to spend doing all that time traveling when I had a fine home in Gicodel. At least add more than one agent in the stations so we're not stuck with the courier missions.

I do like the books though, minus having to get my leadership up to 3 when I already had the other connections skill trained.

Azran Zala
Fleet of the Damned
Legion of The Damned.
Posted - 2011.05.19 15:50:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Azran Zala on 19/05/2011 15:52:27

1)Nerf most of Sov 0.0 back to 2009 - check
2)nerf jump bridges - check
3)increase availibility and quality of all empire agents [ooh and npc 0.0] - check

Only the diehard remain in 0.0 once again, the rest of the bears go back to empire.
Fleet lag solved. brilliant!

Good job ccp.. and im not being sarcastic!

Johnnny B
Caldari
NailorTech Industries
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.19 15:55:00 - [10]
 

To be honest, i think CCP have gone one nerf too far...
We have to suffer Incursion(PVE enviorment) in our beloved PVP world, wich really gets in the way.
sanctum and ratting nerfs, wich forces even more 0.0 space to be left dead, and jam more people in the lower sec space just to make a little bit of isk.
Not to mention the over hard work it takes to keek sovereignty in 0.0 making eve more like a job than fun to play.

there are lots more i can go on with, but no one seems to care.

Keep your hard erned cash in your pocket.
this games going down the pan. play ability is king of any game, and when ccp start killing this.
its time to stop playing
SadSadSad

CCP Navigator


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.19 15:57:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Chan Su
looks like you forgot to seed the new connections skill books. At least I dont see them...not in inventory...not on market.


Connections skillbooks are available through the loyalty point stores for each faction.

Paul Clavet
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2011.05.19 15:59:00 - [12]
 

My feelings are mixed about the rest of the patch, but...

I want to find the dev who implemented the probe movement change and kiss him/her on the mouth. Wink

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:02:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Turelus on 19/05/2011 16:06:46
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Chan Su
looks like you forgot to seed the new connections skill books. At least I dont see them...not in inventory...not on market.


Connections skillbooks are available through the loyalty point stores for each faction.


*Edit* Never mind appears the skills are in your clone stations! *goes to fly off to the other side of space*


Andra Guerra
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:02:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Andra Guerra on 19/05/2011 16:02:45
There was an unexpected error while retrieving update status:

Unable to download file evepremiumpatch247655-259851.exe from the server.
Error: [Errno socket error] [Errno 10060] A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond: 'thread::connect failed with error 10060: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond.\r\n'


Do you want to go to support page?


Also getting open DNS pages when trying to download the patch from the support page

CAPTAIN SP0CK
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:02:00 - [15]
 

Just logged on after downloading the incursion 1.5 patch and I dont see any skillpoint redemptions in any of my alts charracter sheet???

CCP Navigator


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:08:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Turelus
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Chan Su
looks like you forgot to seed the new connections skill books. At least I dont see them...not in inventory...not on market.


Connections skillbooks are available through the loyalty point stores for each faction.


So confirming if you had the skill injected and trained you need to buy a new one? (secret isk sink!)




Not at all. If you had one of the old connections skills trained we removed those skills, reimbursed you the skill points and put a new skill book in the hanger of your home system.

For new players looking to get the skills they can be bought on the market or through the LP stores Smile

Okane Kudasai
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:11:00 - [17]
 

I will have to agree with tekant on this.. this could have been done better. I was hoping that the minimum was a complete color change for the the BP - copies would be light green. That wouldn't have been difficult to implement?
The example given by tekant is preferable though.

CAPTAIN SP0CK
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:12:00 - [18]
 

urm! ccp navigator? i just checked all my alts, no skillpoint reibursements in any on the charracter sheet?and no new books in hangers?????!

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:14:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Turelus
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Chan Su
looks like you forgot to seed the new connections skill books. At least I dont see them...not in inventory...not on market.


Connections skillbooks are available through the loyalty point stores for each faction.


So confirming if you had the skill injected and trained you need to buy a new one? (secret isk sink!)




Not at all. If you had one of the old connections skills trained we removed those skills, reimbursed you the skill points and put a new skill book in the hanger of your home system.

For new players looking to get the skills they can be bought on the market or through the LP stores Smile

I noticed after I rage post! Embarassed

Abrazzar
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:15:00 - [20]
 

I must say, the removal of agent divisions is one of the most destructive 'improvements' I have seen in a while...

CCP Punkturis

Posted - 2011.05.19 16:16:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Paul Clavet
My feelings are mixed about the rest of the patch, but...

I want to find the dev who implemented the probe movement change and kiss him/her on the mouth. Wink


CCP Frellicus is soooo lucky!! Very Happy

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:18:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Turelus
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Chan Su
looks like you forgot to seed the new connections skill books. At least I dont see them...not in inventory...not on market.


Connections skillbooks are available through the loyalty point stores for each faction.


So confirming if you had the skill injected and trained you need to buy a new one? (secret isk sink!)




Not at all. If you had one of the old connections skills trained we removed those skills, reimbursed you the skill points and put a new skill book in the hanger of your home system.

For new players looking to get the skills they can be bought on the market or through the LP stores Smile

How exactly do you guys define a home system? Mine were spawned in deep 0.0 on the other side of the ****ing universe, i havent been there in like 6 months... ugh

Also do Thukkers and CONCORD count as 'each faction' because i dont see them in their stores...

Miner Mule
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:19:00 - [23]
 

Oh look, they took away my learned skills, and now I get to buy my books all over again. Yay and at a nice high price...... Gee what's next? Anyone with oven 50 trillion isk is going to get a rubber duckie?

Versuvius Marii
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:20:00 - [24]
 

The fleet window is all ******ed now. I like that when you first open it you're taken to the finder. That is good. But if you're invited to a fleet you're taken to the finder, which is bad. I've found a fleet, why would I want to go to this screen? If I'm wing/squad commander/booster I'd like to see the hieracy of the squad, if not then take me to the broadcasts!

Glyken Touchon
Gallente
Independent Alchemists
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:21:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Joshua Foiritain

How exactly do you guys define a home system? Mine were spawned in deep 0.0 on the other side of the ****ing universe, i havent been there in like 6 months... ugh



Medical clone location


Morar Santee
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:24:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Morar Santee on 19/05/2011 16:39:12
For those of you who are, like myself, wondering about the following part of the recent patch:
Quote:

Information on a pilot's standings towards NPC corporations is no longer visible from 'Show Info'. You now see the standings information between you and the other pilot and the factions you each belong to.


I uncovered some interesting information:

Originally by: anonymous source in Reykjavík

(Disclaimer: Names, dates and events had to be falsified and/or altered in order to avoid legal implications. However, logic dictates that this (or a very similar) conversation lead to the changes quoted above.)

CCP 1 > We identified another very popular feature with our playerbase! Checking the standings of other players is a fairly widespread activity for various reasons we can't determine because we have no clue about our own game, but it makes up for about 3,57% total bandwidth on a monthly aver..

CCP 2 > Wait, 3,57%?! How much is that in dollars?

CCP 1 > Err, well, approximately 5481,10 $ - but what I meant to say was..

CCP 2 > Fivethousandfourhundredeightyone dollars and ten cents?! That's almost six thousand standard donuts! Or five thousand four hundred with chocolate chips!!

CCP 1 > Uhm... I guess so. But what I really wanted to say is: We should try to find out why this feature is so popu...

CCP 2 > Feature? Feature!? This isn't about features - this is about donuts!!



And hence, checking player standings was no more.

Nat'han
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:27:00 - [27]
 

hey just a little note, the skill books ive got two mining books one security and thts it is tht correct

Safian krill

Paul Clavet
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:29:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: CCP Punkturis
Originally by: Paul Clavet
My feelings are mixed about the rest of the patch, but...

I want to find the dev who implemented the probe movement change and kiss him/her on the mouth. Wink


CCP Frellicus is soooo lucky!! Very Happy


You think I'm joking. Wait for Fanfest.

Vincent Athena
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:38:00 - [29]
 

Sigh. My favorite agents are now all courier. I'm going to have to rip up my main base of operations and move everything.

CCP: I suggest agents that were close to 50-50 courier/combat should be replaced with 2 agents.

Garondal
Posted - 2011.05.19 16:45:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Nat'han
hey just a little note, the skill books ive got two mining books one security and thts it is tht correct

Safian krill


I've now got 2 Distribution Connections, 2 Security Connections and 1 Mining Connections. What's more I can't even train the Security Connections skill since it has a pre requisite of Leadership which seems to have nothing to do with that skill. Would have thought the pre requisite skill should be Social as it is with Distribution and Mining. Surely this is an error?


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