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C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.19 11:34:00 - [1]
 

Hello Capsuleers,

We will use this thread to keep you updated on the progress of the Incursion 1.5 release. The deployment is on schedule and Tranquility is currently in testing mode while we check the changes. Should anything change, we will use this thread to inform you all. We will also provide a status update roughly every hour.

Update at 12:42 UTC. Everything is still going well and testing has found nothing so far that is going to extend our schedule.

Update at 13:26 UTC. Deployment is still on schedule and no issues to report.

Nikita Alterana
Kumiho's Smile
Posted - 2011.05.19 11:39:00 - [2]
 

Current Estimated Release Time: 1800

William Straven
Gallente
Project ELT
Project Unconquerable
Posted - 2011.05.19 11:42:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: William Straven on 19/05/2011 11:43:00
Finally an update thread! Everyone place your bets!

EDIT: Any idea when the api is back up?

Everinsearch
Posted - 2011.05.19 11:43:00 - [4]
 

I like updates.

Eve111 Aishai
Posted - 2011.05.19 11:43:00 - [5]
 

Oh Noes

Swynet
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.05.19 11:47:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Nikita Alterana
Current Estimated Release Time: 1800


100isk on 21.00 UTC - someone will manage to burn some hamsters and sure Zymurgist at this time is already tasting his 15th beer Laughing

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.05.19 11:50:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: William Straven
EDIT: Any idea when the api is back up?

probably 8hrs or so after the server goes online

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:13:00 - [8]
 

An 8.5 hour patch time for a 16mb client side patch dnload.....hmmmm, I feel a great disturbance in tranquility, as if millions of hamsters suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

Ceiling Kat
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:13:00 - [9]
 

but i want to plaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

Swynet
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:17:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Ceiling Kat
but i want to plaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!


Here have some taste of the begining and feel powerful tonight.

Theminster
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:19:00 - [11]
 

What I dont understand is why they have to constantly keep messing around with mechanics and keep changing everything when it was perfectly fine 4 years ago.

Prime example of this is messing with exploration system, and this stupid upgrade space idea. Plexes where perfectly acceptable when it was total random, and it was a really nice supprise when your hard work to find that plex turned into something tidy. Now its just CA farming to hell and back. And probing is no longer a challange, everyone is doign it and I feel cheated after taking months on end to train all probing skills to V.

rastavelli
Minmatar
Mortis Angelus
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:25:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Mr Kidd
An 8.5 hour patch time for a 16mb client side patch dnload.....hmmmm, I feel a great disturbance in tranquility, as if millions of hamsters suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.


maybe the big changes are happening on the server side.

DJ Spare
Pure Skunkworks
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:27:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: CCP Navigator


roughly


This word frightens me. Confused

Server will be up roughly at 17:30...
We will update you roughly every hour...

lets see how 'rough' this first update is gonna be. Then we'll have an estimate of the return of the live server

Badger Molester
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:28:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Theminster
What I dont understand is why they have to constantly keep messing around with mechanics and keep changing everything when it was perfectly fine 4 years ago.

Prime example of this is messing with exploration system, and this stupid upgrade space idea. Plexes where perfectly acceptable when it was total random, and it was a really nice supprise when your hard work to find that plex turned into something tidy. Now its just CA farming to hell and back. And probing is no longer a challange, everyone is doign it and I feel cheated after taking months on end to train all probing skills to V.



Why don't you go blog about it.

Lederstrumpf
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:32:00 - [15]
 

Yet another unclever info topic hiding in the discussion forum.

There's a forum channel called "EVE Information Portal".

You expect customers to find info about ongoing stuff in the general discussion forum.

Lousy.

Theminster
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:32:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Badger Molester
Originally by: Theminster
What I dont understand is why they have to constantly keep messing around with mechanics and keep changing everything when it was perfectly fine 4 years ago.

Prime example of this is messing with exploration system, and this stupid upgrade space idea. Plexes where perfectly acceptable when it was total random, and it was a really nice supprise when your hard work to find that plex turned into something tidy. Now its just CA farming to hell and back. And probing is no longer a challange, everyone is doign it and I feel cheated after taking months on end to train all probing skills to V.



Why don't you go blog about it.


No Point really they dont listen to a word anyone says anyway.

Swynet
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:39:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Theminster
No Point really they don't read a word anyone writes anyway.


Laughing

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:44:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Theminster
Prime example of this is messing with exploration system
…you mean that slow, cumbersome, and not particularly difficult system (that was niche just due to how dull it was) that had to be replaced in order to make W-space — the most interesting expansion of EVE in a long time — work?

CCP Navigator


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:45:00 - [19]
 

Posted an update in the OP. So far everything on track and going well.

William Straven
Gallente
Project ELT
Project Unconquerable
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:46:00 - [20]
 

YAY!

DJ Spare
Pure Skunkworks
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:49:00 - [21]
 

soo "roughly" 8 minutes extra for every hour of downtime, that's 9.5*8 = 76 minutes extra, so server will be up at 17:46 !

Theminster
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:55:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Swynet
Originally by: Theminster
No Point really they don't read a word anyone writes anyway.


Laughing


Thanks for the correction, but it is not warranted as peoples non agreement of changes is also written and spoken (Fanfest, CSM as an example)

Semper Nefarius
Posted - 2011.05.19 12:56:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Theminster
And probing is no longer a challange, everyone is doign it and I feel cheated after taking months on end to train all probing skills to V.



Right, the old probing system took great skill.... deploy probe, cloak up and hit scan.. wait 5 minutes for result. Only part that took any effort was to setup bookmarks for good cover.

TheMinsterDeathMan
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:04:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: TheMinsterDeathMan on 19/05/2011 13:05:20
Originally by: Semper Nefarius
Originally by: Theminster
And probing is no longer a challange, everyone is doign it and I feel cheated after taking months on end to train all probing skills to V.



Right, the old probing system took great skill.... deploy probe, cloak up and hit scan.. wait 5 minutes for result. Only part that took any effort was to setup bookmarks for good cover.


Thats not true, unless you have the right skills, the right equipment, and getting a good nack for probe setup it was a challange. Now its dump 3 probes hit scan done. Where is the challange in that.

The old problem of angles, and getting the positions correct. There was a lot more interaction with the system previously.

It basically boils down to noobs not being able to probe well enough on the old system in high sec, so rather than think about it properly they decided to make it easy across the board.

China Black
Minmatar
Pixelmoon
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:06:00 - [25]
 

Is it done yet?

Sorry, but I just had to do it. Wink

Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:14:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: China Black
Is it done yet?

Sorry, but I just had to do it. Wink


no but can i haz your stuff?

Sorry, but I just had to do it. Wink

Jackstah Whoosaa
DohMinion
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:25:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: China Black
Is it done yet?

Sorry, but I just had to do it. Wink


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it bettah huwwy , i got a kingdom to build !!



Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:25:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: TheMinsterDeathMan
Now its dump 3 probes hit scan done. Where is the challange in that.
Seeing as how you can't get a warpable hit with less than 4 probes (unless you've found some neat bug to exploit), the challenge is pretty much infinite at that point.
Quote:
The old problem of angles, and getting the positions correct.
Neither of those were problems or interactions — it was just a tedium. There was no difficulty that kept people away, just a wall of boredom.

…and seeing as how they had to have people do it en masse to give W-space a purpose and make T3 a worth-while investment, that mindless tedium had to go and be replaced with something that required some actual gameplay.

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:25:00 - [29]
 

in on page one!

Good luck!

/c

S'qarpium D'igil
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:26:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: S''qarpium D''igil on 19/05/2011 13:28:27
Originally by: TheMinsterDeathMan
Edited by: TheMinsterDeathMan on 19/05/2011 13:05:20
Originally by: Semper Nefarius
Originally by: Theminster
And probing is no longer a challange, everyone is doign it and I feel cheated after taking months on end to train all probing skills to V.



Right, the old probing system took great skill.... deploy probe, cloak up and hit scan.. wait 5 minutes for result. Only part that took any effort was to setup bookmarks for good cover.


Thats not true, unless you have the right skills, the right equipment, and getting a good nack for probe setup it was a challange. Now its dump 3 probes hit scan done. Where is the challange in that.

The old problem of angles, and getting the positions correct. There was a lot more interaction with the system previously.

It basically boils down to noobs not being able to probe well enough on the old system in high sec, so rather than think about it properly they decided to make it easy across the board.


As someone who probes quite frequently (and is actually fairly good at it), I'm quite pleased with the change. Probing isn't difficult once you figure out how it works, it's just tedious. Making probing less tedious and less time-consuming is a good thing in my book. Yes, I took the time to train the skills up and yes I took the time to learn how to probe properly; and people WILL still have to learn it through trial and error.

Honestly, the only thing that keeps me from probing/exploring some days is that I just feel like micro-managing the little f*kers - a problem that CCP how now remedied.
/undocks in Anathema


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