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Caleb Davis
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:20:00 - [421]
 

but just postin in here tells me that i have about three hour wait thats cool theres always something a soldier can find to do here

Iluja Murumetc
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:20:00 - [422]
 

This is not good, someone working in a particular direction with certain agents, but now in a heap.
The beauty of this game in multi-directional characters. EVE is not for children who do not look so to simplify the gameplay. You spoil it by combining the types, classes, directions.

Messenger Character
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:20:00 - [423]
 

Originally by: Messenger Character
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch247655-259851_m.exe (16.2 MB)

The patch seems to work, but CCP might change it if they need so u might have to download again when Eve opens to night Rolling Eyes

Sulindra
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:22:00 - [424]
 

Originally by: KA3AHOBA
Edited by: KA3AHOBA on 17/05/2011 08:05:18
Dear CCP
So how about remap of Probe-Scanning's skills?
I teaching it but now not need becouse i got 64 AU in onboard scanner.



You do not know anything about scanning. You think you're learning scanning skills to find anomalies.

Scanning skills are about sending out 4 probes, finding gravametric, ladar, radar, wormholes, and other cosmic signatures. These mechanics have not changed, you still need 4 scanners, you still need to align them around the possible signature, and you still have to work you ass off to lock the signature to 100%

Having the time for the onboard scanner reduced for finding boring anomalies is just fine. Stop you crying...

Iris Khan
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:22:00 - [425]
 

Originally by: Iluja Murumetc
This is not good, someone working in a particular direction with certain agents, but now in a heap.
The beauty of this game in multi-directional characters. EVE is not for children who do not look so to simplify the gameplay. You spoil it by combining the types, classes, directions.


This change is not making the game for children.

People resist change even when it is for the better. Look towards the long term goals of EVE.

Kim Aumer
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:22:00 - [426]
 

Originally by: Graeme Goodfeather
Yep, skill points still added. Training is always ongoing, during server patch's and all.


Perfect. Thank you

Graeme Goodfeather
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:23:00 - [427]
 

Originally by: Joren Maulerant
so im in afghanistam for the army just wondering what utc is?

UTC is universal time, or Grenwich Meridian Time(GMT) to us brits. UTC does not account for daylight saving so remains consistant. The time on each post is UTC, so you can work out the time of your post with your local time to figure out what time things will be back up. Or just work out time difference between post and their projected server online time (16.30). So about 3 hours from now, hopefully, if all goes well.

Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:23:00 - [428]
 

Originally by: Makoto Kimagawa
Why cant they have a status page on the website so we can see how its gong, i am so annoyed as i tried to get on at 8am to set a long skill train - but the servers were already down so now i have missed 4 hours of training and still no idea when the servers are going to be back.
And the lesson(s) learned: pay attention to extended DT announcements and *always* set a long (several days) skill in the training queue. The only annoyance should be with your own planning skills, tbh.

Thorn Galen
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:24:00 - [429]
 

Originally by: KingSkunk
Just 1 question I have will steam users get this patch today it would be nice if us steam users could play the game today oh I see all the greifers are ****ed about not being able to hunt down their non pvp WT you guys need to grow some balls and head into low sec where there are 1000's of pvp players just waiting for you all to come play, oh just 1 more thing for all you greifers there's no challenge in war decing a corp thats full of 2 week old players so I dont see why you do it and then complain that ccp is making it harder for you all to do your homework on corps lol .|. Laughing


How very arrogant and stupid to make a comment like that. So because many people enjoy PVE (and not PVP), they are worthless ? Why don't you grow a brain and think a bit, use it properly. "1000's of PVP players waiting for you all to come play"......Ignorant AND arrogant.

'Nuff Said
Thorn.

Dhaliparton
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:26:00 - [430]
 

Originally by: JT Black
CCP keep up the nerf work !
Judging by the panick here ...

Sanctum and Haven whor** you're safe !Twisted Evil

While you're on it remove local window/chat,and make npc rats scramble by +10 then we will see how the afk people E-tweaks works ...

See you in space ***go** Evil or Very Mad


If anything do something about the spamming/scamming in Jita local.
Remove contracts that are obvious frauds or totally mispriced (33333333 isk for 1 m3 of veld)
randomize belt configurations to make rocks move more than 15KM so macro miners get the poke



Versuvius Marii
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:26:00 - [431]
 

Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara
Originally by: Makoto Kimagawa
Why cant they have a status page on the website so we can see how its gong, i am so annoyed as i tried to get on at 8am to set a long skill train - but the servers were already down so now i have missed 4 hours of training and still no idea when the servers are going to be back.
And the lesson(s) learned: pay attention to extended DT announcements and *always* set a long (several days) skill in the training queue. The only annoyance should be with your own planning skills, tbh.
Pretty much this, CCP has in recent times gotten used to giving everyone plenty of advance warning. If you somehow missed the extended downtime warning you're a bit of a mong.

Gainard
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:27:00 - [432]
 

Its kind of funny to see the same questions concerning the UTC every time a patch is being implemented.
For those which have trouble getting the time right:
Downtime is always at 11:00. Now just add the difference between 11:00 and 16:30 to the time DT occurs in your time zone and there you are!
Otherwise if DT occurs while you are offline: Just check the time displayed at the lower left of the screen once you are logged in (again) and make a mental note of the difference to your local time. Remember this when the next patch is applied.
If this is too compllicated get a cheep watch/clock, set it to EVE time next time you are online and place it next to your screen Idea

Joren Maulerant
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:28:00 - [433]
 

Originally by: Graeme Goodfeather
Originally by: Joren Maulerant
so im in afghanistam for the army just wondering what utc is?

UTC is universal time, or Grenwich Meridian Time(GMT) to us brits. UTC does not account for daylight saving so remains consistant. The time on each post is UTC, so you can work out the time of your post with your local time to figure out what time things will be back up. Or just work out time difference between post and their projected server online time (16.30). So about 3 hours from now, hopefully, if all goes well.
so yeah thank u for that explanation greenwich means told me all use that alot here and i did work out the time with posting thank u again for replying i was pretty confused

Iris Khan
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:31:00 - [434]
 

Edited by: Iris Khan on 19/05/2011 13:31:33
Originally by: Thorn Galen
Originally by: KingSkunk
Just 1 question I have will steam users get this patch today it would be nice if us steam users could play the game today oh I see all the greifers are ****ed about not being able to hunt down their non pvp WT you guys need to grow some balls and head into low sec where there are 1000's of pvp players just waiting for you all to come play, oh just 1 more thing for all you greifers there's no challenge in war decing a corp thats full of 2 week old players so I dont see why you do it and then complain that ccp is making it harder for you all to do your homework on corps lol .|. Laughing


How very arrogant and stupid to make a comment like that. So because many people enjoy PVE (and not PVP), they are worthless ? Why don't you grow a brain and think a bit, use it properly. "1000's of PVP players waiting for you all to come play"......Ignorant AND arrogant.

'Nuff Said
Thorn.


Until CCP starts doling out free ships and mods, PvP players cannot live without PvE players.

Dhaliparton
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:33:00 - [435]
 

Originally by: Iris Khan
Originally by: Iluja Murumetc
This is not good, someone working in a particular direction with certain agents, but now in a heap.
The beauty of this game in multi-directional characters. EVE is not for children who do not look so to simplify the gameplay. You spoil it by combining the types, classes, directions.


This change is not making the game for children.

People resist change even when it is for the better. Look towards the long term goals of EVE.


QuestionQuestionAnd where can we find said long term goals? Never seen them published if someone has a link please share. Seems to me the game is getting simpler for new players (good) and rocking the boat for 0.0 to break down barriers (good for newish players looking to expand their gameplay) and distributing agents to unclog lvl 4 agent systems. I don't personally like the fact that someone can scan an entire system at 64 but I think I'll live.

Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:33:00 - [436]
 

Originally by: Iluja Murumetc
This is not good, someone working in a particular direction with certain agents, but now in a heap.
The beauty of this game in multi-directional characters. EVE is not for children who do not look so to simplify the gameplay. You spoil it by combining the types, classes, directions.
Well stated.

A game with homogeneous characters does not breed inter-dependence and the social interaction purportedly native to a MMO.

Dartuff
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:34:00 - [437]
 

Edited by: Dartuff on 19/05/2011 13:35:01
Man this looks like it going to take up most of the day at this rate lol

So whats this i hear about new skill books?

Robert Farrish
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:36:00 - [438]
 

Originally by: Gainard
Its kind of funny to see the same questions concerning the UTC every time a patch is being implemented.
For those which have trouble getting the time right:
Downtime is always at 11:00. Now just add the difference between 11:00 and 16:30 to the time DT occurs in your time zone and there you are!
Otherwise if DT occurs while you are offline: Just check the time displayed at the lower left of the screen once you are logged in (again) and make a mental note of the difference to your local time. Remember this when the next patch is applied.
If this is too compllicated get a cheep watch/clock, set it to EVE time next time you are online and place it next to your screen Idea
easier to type "UTC" on google and hit first link or pretty much any link from first page and see what UTC time it is..

But typing 3 letters in google is obviously more work than buying 2nd clock that you keep in UTC time or asking stupid questions in forums Laughing

Carli Zandrya
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:37:00 - [439]
 

Originally by: Iris Khan

Until CCP starts doling out free ships and mods, PvP players cannot live without PvE players.


QFT - Everything in EvE ultimately supports PvP, but PvP would not be possible without the 'carebear' miners, industrialists, etc. PvP'ers in hi-sec are the spineless thugs who prey on the emotions of the ignorant to give them an easy KM.

/agree grow some balls and pick fights in low sec or less!

EvilDead12
Amarr
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:37:00 - [440]
 

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch247655-259851_m.exe (16.2 MB)

The patch seems to work, but CCP might change it if they need so u might have to download again when Eve opens to night Rolling Eyes

Kelnarn Shaelingrath
Caldari
River-Rats in space
The Ditanian Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:37:00 - [441]
 

Originally by: Harold Remus
Originally by: SilverDollar
Some good changes here: that dumb fleeting process is now fixed, new icons for BPs, some interface issues fixed as well. So far, so good.
Now, why CCP start messing with things that aren't broken?. I would love to see more patches fixing the small things, but please keep your hands off the big right stuff. If you're trying to appeal to a dumber type of player, just say so and we'll all leave "en masse", to make room for your new customers.

I just don't want to play along with ppl dumber than me, that's it. I want to draw a line here: no one dumber than me should be allowed to play EVE. That would be a little too much, even for me!


so what you are telling us, as far as i can determine, is that you are only going to be happy in this game as long as you are the dumbest one playing it. well, have fun.



ooops... I hope they don't find out about me then, cause I'm not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree either... Wink

all Kidding aside though, EVE is supposed to make you think and plan.. unlike some other games I've played, EVE has always been about the next 3 to 6 months or so, while games like NavyField is generally about the next 3 minute (or 15 minute) battle..
This is one of the reasons I love playing EVE, because I have to actually plan out what I'm going to do, and when, so I can use the things I want to use, build the things I want to build, and be able to play the game the way I want to play it.

I do see some nice changes in the notes IE. the ability to easily differentiate between BPOs and BPCs, but seriously, if CCP continues to "dumb down" the game as it sometimes seems they are doing, then I think many folks are going to start looking elsewhere for something to do.

just my 0.02 worth.

o7 all
K.S.


Iris Khan
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:40:00 - [442]
 

Edited by: Iris Khan on 19/05/2011 13:45:41
Originally by: Dhaliparton
Originally by: Iris Khan
Originally by: Iluja Murumetc
This is not good, someone working in a particular direction with certain agents, but now in a heap.
The beauty of this game in multi-directional characters. EVE is not for children who do not look so to simplify the gameplay. You spoil it by combining the types, classes, directions.


This change is not making the game for children.

People resist change even when it is for the better. Look towards the long term goals of EVE.


QuestionQuestionAnd where can we find said long term goals? Never seen them published if someone has a link please share. Seems to me the game is getting simpler for new players (good) and rocking the boat for 0.0 to break down barriers (good for newish players looking to expand their gameplay) and distributing agents to unclog lvl 4 agent systems. I don't personally like the fact that someone can scan an entire system at 64 but I think I'll live.


Read the blog look at their videos.. read about fanfest.

Just because missions will have a more uniform payout doesnt mean it will become a childrens game. that is ridiculous. there is SO MUCH more about EVE than getting paid by a mission agent. Skill training, optimal ship fitting for PvE or PvP, mining, manufacturing, invention, exploration, and the list goes on. These things take a lot of time and effort to learn how to do effectively. Just PvP alone (ships killing each other) is a lengthy learning process that people learn about over years of play and though one aspect of many in EVE has a lt of components to it. Not the mention the 'sandbox' element of good decision making.

It is far from a childrens game and despite this one change in a minute part of the game (mission access and payout) isnt going to turn it into a childrens game.

If this small part of the game is everything to you and you feel nerfed by it, then you have not discovered EVE.

Modeaus
Caldari
KiLL On ConTacT
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:40:00 - [443]
 

So if I can now go to an agent in 0.5 space will my rewards and bounties be higher?

I can see all the current high sec L4 hubs moving to 0.5 systems and taking all their ninja salvagers and carebear rage with them! At least people might start wondering into low sec by mistake and find out what this game is really about .... getting jumped by low sec gate camps :p

Kavin Alavandar
Extropy Dianoetics
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:41:00 - [444]
 

Edited by: Kavin Alavandar on 19/05/2011 13:41:11
Originally by: Dartuff
Edited by: Dartuff on 19/05/2011 13:35:01
Man this looks like it going to take up most of the day at this rate lol
What? The ETA was 16:30 seven hours ago and it still is now.

Joren Maulerant
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:43:00 - [445]
 

Originally by: Robert Farrish
Originally by: Gainard
Its kind of funny to see the same questions concerning the UTC every time a patch is being implemented.
For those which have trouble getting the time right:
Downtime is always at 11:00. Now just add the difference between 11:00 and 16:30 to the time DT occurs in your time zone and there you are!
Otherwise if DT occurs while you are offline: Just check the time displayed at the lower left of the screen once you are logged in (again) and make a mental note of the difference to your local time. Remember this when the next patch is applied.
If this is too compllicated get a cheep watch/clock, set it to EVE time next time you are online and place it next to your screen Idea
easier to type "UTC" on google and hit first link or pretty much any link from first page and see what UTC time it is..

But typing 3 letters in google is obviously more work than buying 2nd clock that you keep in UTC time or asking stupid questions in forums Laughing
Wow and here i just thought i was asking a simple question not a stupid one good slam there little buddy i have benn rightfully put in my place .... or maybe its best to not wait for a posting you may think is stupid so u can pounce on it like an over eager child with a piece of candy

Ruddee
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:43:00 - [446]
 

Originally by: Joren Maulerant
so im in afghanistam for the army just wondering what utc is?


Zulu time.

Stack'em High
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:45:00 - [447]
 

Edited by: Stack''em High on 19/05/2011 13:46:13
I have nothing constructive to add, but...

Are we nearly there yet?

Can CCP at least post up a 'we're just working on this bit at the moment' to keep us amused. This is assuming it's not all gone **** up and in reality the CCP engineers have had a whip round and sent the office junior to the duty free at Heathrow to stock up on pizza, beer and ***s(that's British ***s, not US ***s).

P.S. - ***s as in ciggies.....

Dartuff
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:46:00 - [448]
 

Originally by: Kavin Alavandar
Edited by: Kavin Alavandar on 19/05/2011 13:41:11
Originally by: Dartuff
Edited by: Dartuff on 19/05/2011 13:35:01
Man this looks like it going to take up most of the day at this rate lol
What? The ETA was 16:30 seven hours ago and it still is now.



o my bad i dont live for this game like you do didnt know what time it was going to be back up / so sorry \

Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:49:00 - [449]
 

We there yet?

Modeaus
Caldari
KiLL On ConTacT
Posted - 2011.05.19 13:49:00 - [450]
 

Originally by: Joren Maulerant
Originally by: Robert Farrish
Originally by: Gainard
Its kind of funny to see the same questions concerning the UTC every time a patch is being implemented.
For those which have trouble getting the time right:
Downtime is always at 11:00. Now just add the difference between 11:00 and 16:30 to the time DT occurs in your time zone and there you are!
Otherwise if DT occurs while you are offline: Just check the time displayed at the lower left of the screen once you are logged in (again) and make a mental note of the difference to your local time. Remember this when the next patch is applied.
If this is too compllicated get a cheep watch/clock, set it to EVE time next time you are online and place it next to your screen Idea
easier to type "UTC" on google and hit first link or pretty much any link from first page and see what UTC time it is..

But typing 3 letters in google is obviously more work than buying 2nd clock that you keep in UTC time or asking stupid questions in forums Laughing
Wow and here i just thought i was asking a simple question not a stupid one good slam there little buddy i have benn rightfully put in my place .... or maybe its best to not wait for a posting you may think is stupid so u can pounce on it like an over eager child with a piece of candy




Woah! Cut him some slack! He just woke up, his Dew hasn't quite kicked in and he just discovered that can't get in game. The prospect of spending time in RL is a daunting one. The interweb is his only outlet and using his Megathron to can flip newbies is the only thing that makes him feel like a man.

So. How dare you ask a question in a forum that you don't already know the answer to!

Nub. ;)


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