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Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.05.12 09:53:00 - [1]
 

Using thanatos for anomalyes. Looks like 1 cap rep is pretty enough most of a time. So there is no need to fill med slots by cap rechangers.

Drone modules ignore fighters.

So i ended with Sensor booster + 100MN MWD for GTFO. 2 slots are empty now. What to fill?

andeira
Posted - 2011.05.12 10:10:00 - [2]
 

more sensor boosters

Mournful Conciousness
Gallente
Special Situations
Posted - 2011.05.12 10:14:00 - [3]
 

ECM burst and multispectral ECM. Also put a load of ECM drones in the hold.

Did I mention ECM? There is no GTFO in a carrier without lots of ECM.

Mournful Conciousness
Gallente
Special Situations
Posted - 2011.05.12 10:19:00 - [4]
 

If you don't want to GTFO, and have friends who can come to your aid quickly, then fit cap rechargers. Totally over-cap the ship (twice what you think you will need).

When people gank carriers they are expecting capital reps and perhaps triage, so will each carry a heavy neut or two.

Once you are out of cap, your carrier will become a wreck in very short order.

Fit a smartbomb in one of the high slots. That way you can waste the swarm of drones that will surround you like bees round a honey pot when you do get ganked.

You will get ganked. They will scram you, bump you and attack your fighters while pinning you with neuts. Give yourself a chance.


Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.05.12 11:03:00 - [5]
 

once again: i have 100MN MWD for GTFO. And i think i will have enough support in case of small gang. So i don't plan to have long defensive fight.

On the other hand thanny isn't expensive enough to really bother with "give yourself a chance to survive". This is more a toy for lazy ratting. So more SBs looks reasonable.

But... Maybe target painters? Do it work with drones?

Jenny SpitfireSP2
Posted - 2011.05.12 11:19:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Miss Rabblt
once again: i have 100MN MWD for GTFO.


Ah yes. You'll be just fine then. Forget about any of that other stuff.

What system was it again?

Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.05.12 12:17:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Jenny SpitfireSP2

What system was it again?

[offtopic]does your KB really suck that you are ready to visit deep ass of a universe to kill a stupid carrier?Very Happy

month ago i lost Nightmare 1.5+ bil fitted in stupid anomaly just by my lazyness.... and 2 bil fitted Gilas before.... Thanny now is only 1.1-1.2bil i guess.....Rolling Eyes
[/offtopic]

Mfume Apocal
Minmatar
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2011.05.12 12:22:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Miss Rabblt
once again: i have 100MN MWD for GTFO.


Confirming that 166m/s is enough to "GTFO".

Quote:
On the other hand thanny isn't expensive enough to really bother with "give yourself a chance to survive". This is more a toy for lazy ratting. So more SBs looks reasonable.


What system do you rat in again?

Quote:
But... Maybe target painters? Do it work with drones?


Yes.

Mournful Conciousness
Gallente
Special Situations
Posted - 2011.05.12 13:09:00 - [9]
 

Quote:
does your KB really suck that you are ready to visit deep ass of a universe to kill a stupid carrier?


In my experience, people are so desparate to look gay that they will kill anything that does not shoot back...

... which would make it all the more hilarious if our alliance's pvp boys could use you as bait to catch these rats :-)


Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.05.12 13:34:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Mfume Apocal
Originally by: Miss Rabblt
once again: i have 100MN MWD for GTFO.


Confirming that 166m/s is enough to "GTFO".


MWD == 10seconds to warp out
do you see what are we discuss here? Laughing

Originally by: Mfume Apocal
Originally by: Miss Rabblt

But... Maybe target painters? Do it work with drones?

Yes.

thanks

Shadowy Assistant
Darkrime Industries
Posted - 2011.05.12 17:44:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Miss Rabblt
Originally by: Mfume Apocal
Originally by: Miss Rabblt
once again: i have 100MN MWD for GTFO.


Confirming that 166m/s is enough to "GTFO".


MWD == 10seconds to warp out
do you see what are we discuss here? Laughing



That doesn't work when the MWD doesn't push your current speed up to 75% of your base speed in within the 10 seconds.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.05.12 18:32:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Liang Nuren on 12/05/2011 18:33:08
I kinda prefer loading up on DCUs+Omnis and using T2 sentries. Two reasons - first you can scoop them when they take aggro, and second that you don't have the drone/fighter travel time. A faction smartie tends to deal with close orbiting frigs pretty well too if you are impatient about letting out the cloud of lights. :)

Also, MASS ****ING QUANTITIES OF ECM DRONES. In case you missed that ****. It's important.

Ed: ^^ This is how I do L5s ... I'm guessing they're probably harder than sanctums because of WTF Respawning Neut Towers and 3000+ DPS coming at you.

Mfume Apocal
Minmatar
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2011.05.13 00:28:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Miss Rabblt

MWD == 10seconds to warp out
do you see what are we discuss here? Laughing


lol

OK.

Shadow Jumper2
Posted - 2011.05.13 06:15:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Shadow Jumper2 on 13/05/2011 06:19:36
Originally by: Mfume Apocal
Originally by: Miss Rabblt

MWD == 10seconds to warp out
do you see what are we discuss here? Laughing


lol

OK.


i lol'd as well. and people's kb doesnt have to suck to want to add yours to it especially if they know what you're going to be fitting. if you ever get caught i doubt that mwd is going to help especially if you're being warp scrammed.


Originally by: Miss Rabblt

month ago i lost Nightmare 1.5+ bil fitted in stupid anomaly just by my lazyness.... and 2 bil fitted Gilas before.... Thanny now is only 1.1-1.2bil i guess.....
[/offtopic]


also, just wondering, does losing billion isk ships make you happy?

Sutskop
PILSGESCHWADER
Monkey Circus
Posted - 2011.05.13 12:58:00 - [15]
 

Ironically the MWD will most probably make your warpout even slower if you have to align just a bit.
Plus you nerf the capacitor size of a carrier. Always a good idea.

Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.05.13 13:50:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Shadow Jumper2

i lol'd as well. and people's kb doesnt have to suck to want to add yours to it especially if they know what you're going to be fitting. if you ever get caught i doubt that mwd is going to help especially if you're being warp scrammed.


it would be interesting to hear tears in local when my thanny got blown without lossmail (yes, i know about "selfdestruct" button) Very Happy

Originally by: Shadow Jumper2
Originally by: Miss Rabblt

month ago i lost Nightmare 1.5+ bil fitted in stupid anomaly just by my lazyness.... and 2 bil fitted Gilas before.... Thanny now is only 1.1-1.2bil i guess.....
[/offtopic]


also, just wondering, does losing billion isk ships make you happy?

it doesn't.... however i would not ragequitVery Happy
Loosing ship only means to me pause for buy and fit new one. Little holidays from grinding money.
And I don't think you would too rage about losing 1 week of income?

And sometimes it even thrills me to meet neutral at the gates. I even start cry and try to survive Laughing

Anyway we came to complete offtopic. I think it is better to stop Very Happy I got some info about fit. You got info "there is another rich stupid carebear with capital ship".

Batelle
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2011.05.13 14:30:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Miss Rabblt
once again: i have 100MN MWD for GTFO.?


Shocked

also target painters, more cap rechargers and sensor boosters. Also why aren't you fitting a second rep?

Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.05.13 15:33:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Batelle

also target painters, more cap rechargers and sensor boosters. Also why aren't you fitting a second rep?

second rep means more cap rechargers and less other useful stuff. While usually 1 cap rep is enough for running anomalies without rush. I prefer to increase damage output instead of making even stronger tank.

Let's take a look to Rogue drone anomalies. Both patrols and small horde = many little spawns one by one. You never need more than 1 cap rep at the same time. Big Drone Horde (4 bunkers) == spawns from each attacked bunker. You can engage all bunkers and get all ships on the field or start spawns one by one. Usually you need 2 cap reps for full spawn. But if you manage spawns you don't need more than 1 cap rep again.

On the other hand 2 cap reps == full spawn, launch ogres + go afk for 10-15 minutes... nice Cool

Khors
El Barco Pirata
Posted - 2011.05.13 16:44:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Miss Rabblt

MWD == 10seconds to warp out
do you see what are we discuss here? Laughing



Aligning == 0 seconds to warp out

Since there's no problem in running anoms in a carrier, why not fit it to actually do okay if **** comes down? i.e. standard dual rep fit.

Evelyn Mulwray
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.05.13 17:46:00 - [20]
 

I usually run 1 cap recharger, 3 target painters and a sebo.
Cap stable running the local rep. Stay aligned to a POS and dont be dumb.

Karash Amerius
Sutoka
Posted - 2011.05.13 21:21:00 - [21]
 

Seems so easy to troll people these days...

mama guru
Gallente
Thundercats
Posted - 2011.05.14 13:21:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: mama guru on 14/05/2011 13:21:54
[Thanatos, Anomalies single rep]
Capital Armor Repairer I
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Target Painter II
Target Painter II
Target Painter II
Target Painter II

Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I - Ship scanner has poor range and the carrier is not exactly known for being fast.

Whatever rigs you want, i prefer capacitor.


Firbolg x15
Warrior II x15
Hobgoblin II x15
Wasp EC-900 x30
Hornet EC-300 x30
Ogre II x15
Berserker II x15


Watch intel channels and always stay aligned to a POS. Don't bother switching fighters out for light drones unless all the frigs are already orbiting you, fighters+ target painters will onevolley them if they chase MWD'ing frigs. I've never lost a ratting ship while in a belt or anomaly let alone a carrier.


TL;DR Dont suck.

Any Guy
Posted - 2011.05.23 08:18:00 - [23]
 

If you must fit an MWD to a cap ship then use a Core-X type which doesn't screw your capacitor.

Now that the onboard scanner can find sanctums in the system in 10 secs, you don't need a prober so stick a large smart bomb on for killing those frigates. You might decide not to use sentries as you should be aligned to the safe POS as soon as you land as the reds can now find you in 10 seconds too. Guess the MWD thing's not looking too hot now.

Drop some TP and add a couple of Sebos as you will drift out of targetting range when aligned. Another option is to then align to a deep safe spot if it's in the opposite direction of the safe pos and keep range on the sanctum.

If you are aligned, you are also less likely to be on the warp in spot of the anomoly and so any uncloaked reds will end up being out of range of you - do not rely on this, be aligned and ready to warp.

Finally, tengu.


Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.05.23 09:00:00 - [24]
 

thanks to all. alot of useful tips.

Baneken
Gallente
The New Knighthood
Apocalypse Now.
Posted - 2011.05.23 11:24:00 - [25]
 

Also carrier dps isn't really that hot, a carrier might last a bit longer then a rattler or nightmare against 15 bombers though.


 

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