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Sixtina KL
The Shoop Group
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:06:00 - [1411]
 


Flex Carter
Caldari Independant Mining Association
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:08:00 - [1412]
 

Originally by: Svennig
Edited by: Svennig on 11/05/2011 12:04:37 Yeah but the point is 0.0 was supposed to offer these benefits. It's the ****ing point of 0.0. We pay for them, we fight for them, we expend significant manpower maintaining them, and they're being taken away, or made less effective. If sleepers were suddenly removed from the game, would your really be ****ing sitting here going "Silly WH space dwellers, people in null, low and highsec have to deal without sleepers, stop *****ing"? Are you that ******ed? It's the ****ing point of that ****ing type of space.


So true....

Tappits
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:09:00 - [1413]
 

Best change for a long time, I LOVE CCP Soundwave!!!!!!!!!!

A Little Girl
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:10:00 - [1414]
 

Where are these jump bridges? I flew all over Jita but I couldn't find one! I think you guys are making things up!

Tester128
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:11:00 - [1415]
 

and while you are nerfing nullsec carebears do another small but important thing - put gates on the anomalies - no more ratting with supers, carriers and assisted fighters

Gilat Sumat
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:12:00 - [1416]
 

Originally by: A Little Girl
Where are these jump bridges? I flew all over Jita but I couldn't find one! I think you guys are making things up!


Ask again on the 17th...Laughing

Svennig
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:13:00 - [1417]
 

Originally by: Tester128
and while you are nerfing nullsec carebears do another small but important thing - put gates on the anomalies - no more ratting with supers, carriers and assisted fighters


Nah **** that. That just removes ganking opportunities.

Walextheone
The Red Circle Inc.
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:14:00 - [1418]
 

Originally by: Svennig
Edited by: Svennig on 11/05/2011 12:07:11
Edited by: Svennig on 11/05/2011 12:04:37
Originally by: Walextheone
My god every dude in lowsec or w-space have to watch their surrounding all the time, keeping you on edge.

You lazy *****ing nullsecers who complain so much, you really want 0.0 to be "safe" all the time? Organize convoys, scout or be creative.

As it seems now you want: ISK at no risk and safe travels. Sounds more like highsec is your game then


Yeah but the point is 0.0 was supposed to offer these benefits. It's the ****ing point of 0.0. We pay for them, we fight for them, we expend significant manpower maintaining them, and they're being taken away, or made less effective. If sleepers were suddenly removed from the game, would your really be ****ing sitting here going "Silly WH space dwellers, people in null, low and highsec have to live without sleepers, stop *****ing"? Are you that ******ed? It's the ****ing point of that ****ing type of space.



Dude they have not taken away the jumpbridges or the anoms, your comparison is worthless. Every alliance and corp will have to adapt to this that live in nullsec and everyone will have a bit more risk that uses bridges.

Nominol
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:14:00 - [1419]
 

Originally by: Tester128
and while you are nerfing nullsec carebears do another small but important thing - put gates on the anomalies - no more ratting with supers, carriers and assisted fighters


This would be SO awesome.

Gilat Sumat
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:16:00 - [1420]
 

Originally by: Walextheone
Originally by: Svennig
Edited by: Svennig on 11/05/2011 12:07:11
Edited by: Svennig on 11/05/2011 12:04:37
Originally by: Walextheone
My god every dude in lowsec or w-space have to watch their surrounding all the time, keeping you on edge.

You lazy *****ing nullsecers who complain so much, you really want 0.0 to be "safe" all the time? Organize convoys, scout or be creative.

As it seems now you want: ISK at no risk and safe travels. Sounds more like highsec is your game then


Yeah but the point is 0.0 was supposed to offer these benefits. It's the ****ing point of 0.0. We pay for them, we fight for them, we expend significant manpower maintaining them, and they're being taken away, or made less effective. If sleepers were suddenly removed from the game, would your really be ****ing sitting here going "Silly WH space dwellers, people in null, low and highsec have to live without sleepers, stop *****ing"? Are you that ******ed? It's the ****ing point of that ****ing type of space.



Dude they have not taken away the jumpbridges or the anoms, your comparison is worthless. Every alliance and corp will have to adapt to this that live in nullsec and everyone will have a bit more risk that uses bridges.



Says the guy with no space....

Feyleaf
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:21:00 - [1421]
 

Edited by: Feyleaf on 11/05/2011 12:26:15
Originally by: Gilat Sumat
Originally by: Walextheone
Originally by: Svennig
Edited by: Svennig on 11/05/2011 12:07:11
Edited by: Svennig on 11/05/2011 12:04:37
Originally by: Walextheone
My god every dude in lowsec or w-space have to watch their surrounding all the time, keeping you on edge.

You lazy *****ing nullsecers who complain so much, you really want 0.0 to be "safe" all the time? Organize convoys, scout or be creative.

As it seems now you want: ISK at no risk and safe travels. Sounds more like highsec is your game then


Yeah but the point is 0.0 was supposed to offer these benefits. It's the ****ing point of 0.0. We pay for them, we fight for them, we expend significant manpower maintaining them, and they're being taken away, or made less effective. If sleepers were suddenly removed from the game, would your really be ****ing sitting here going "Silly WH space dwellers, people in null, low and highsec have to live without sleepers, stop *****ing"? Are you that ******ed? It's the ****ing point of that ****ing type of space.



Dude they have not taken away the jumpbridges or the anoms, your comparison is worthless. Every alliance and corp will have to adapt to this that live in nullsec and everyone will have a bit more risk that uses bridges.



Says the guy with no space....


this^
+its stealt-buff to supercaps.. no wonder drf and PL are extatic
especially coz its also a major tactical help they just got from ccp in major ungoing conflict.

Fiberton
StarFleet Enterprises
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:25:00 - [1422]
 

Edited by: Fiberton on 11/05/2011 12:30:20
Who ever keeps thinking up this fail needs to get Donald Trumped in a hurry. All I ever hear in CCP interviews " I play in high sec im a trader". Daris and Soundwave WTF can you guys put some sense into their ass. Wake up your inner Goonie and wake those jackasses up. Over these 7 years I have kept quiet while cringing as more and more folks I know stop logging on. The changes just drive many away. With such a low retention this is very counter intuitive. I guess keeping quiet is not going to work. Hi I am going to jump on the complain train. User 7254873 boarding.

Donald Trump for CSM.

Walextheone
The Red Circle Inc.
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:26:00 - [1423]
 

Originally by: Feyleaf
Originally by: Gilat Sumat




Says the guy with several wormhole systems....


Me too is lazy^



Species that don't know how to adapt goes extinct. Twisted Evil
Seriously though, I understand that this is more of a hassle but can't you change your ways too?

ovenproofjet
Caldari
Therapy.
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:28:00 - [1424]
 

Edited by: ovenproofjet on 11/05/2011 12:27:51
I'll be honest....I j*zzed a little reading this. Let the murderous rampages begin Twisted Evil

Feyleaf
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:29:00 - [1425]
 

Edited by: Feyleaf on 11/05/2011 12:32:42
Originally by: Walextheone
Originally by: Feyleaf
Originally by: Gilat Sumat




Says the guy with several wormhole systems....


Me too is lazy^



Species that don't know how to adapt goes extinct. Twisted Evil
Seriously though, I understand that this is more of a hassle but can't you change your ways too?


gonna make casual allround players leave game instead if recent trend with suprise **** continues.
Less pve players in 0.0 will get the Team-deathmatch crowd bored.

Yeep
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:30:00 - [1426]
 

Originally by: Walextheone

Species that don't know how to adapt goes extinct. Twisted Evil



Wasn't that Band of Brothers corp Evolution's catchphrase? Or was it Lotka Volterra's? Both entities that were super keen on other people adapting but not so good at it themselves.

Qel'Droma
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:35:00 - [1427]
 

i give up on ccp, once again you show you know **** all about your game and customers.

Feyleaf
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:35:00 - [1428]
 

Edited by: Feyleaf on 11/05/2011 12:35:55
Originally by: Yeep
Originally by: Walextheone

Species that don't know how to adapt goes extinct. Twisted Evil



Wasn't that Band of Brothers corp Evolution's catchphrase? Or was it Lotka Volterra's? Both entities that were super keen on other people adapting but not so good at it themselves.


I heard they used to cheat alot.. some say they were never actually good but only were strong coz of inside info about coming changes and game mechanic exploits and handout from dev's who played in that alliance? anyway.. who cares.. there is no bob.

Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:37:00 - [1429]
 

I love it when pubbies and mongoloid ~elite PvP~ types complain about our jump bridges out in 0.0.

Whatever, if it's going to make this game suck any more than it already does, I'll just unsub.

Gilat Sumat
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:37:00 - [1430]
 

What day is @%#&*-slap a Dev day again?

Feyleaf
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:38:00 - [1431]
 

Originally by: Andski
I love it when pubbies and mongoloid ~elite PvP~ types complain about our jump bridges out in 0.0.

Whatever, if it's going to make this game suck any more than it already does, I'll just unsub.


yeah hehe.. summertime \O/

Spc One
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:38:00 - [1432]
 

Why doesn't ccp just simply remove 0.0 ?

Seems like ccp doesn't like 0.0 anymore so many nerfs.. so i suggest removing of 0.0
NERF AFTER NERF.

Confused

Adria Eqviis
Dark Shadow Industries
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:50:00 - [1433]
 

Edited by: Adria Eqviis on 11/05/2011 12:50:31
I think I'll just take up a hobby that doesn't involve some ****ers changing the 'physics' over and over. Maybe I should finally do that next Karate belt... oh and I love biking. At least g ≈ 9,81m/sē won't be changing that soon. And I always wanted to build a model monorail...

My subscription will lapse in a month.

(in b4 ragequit. more of a facepalmquit.)

Feyleaf
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:51:00 - [1434]
 

Originally by: Vaju Katru
Originally by: Walextheone
My god every dude in lowsec or w-space have to watch their surrounding all the time, keeping you on edge.

You lazy *****ing nullsecers who complain so much, you really want 0.0 to be "safe" all the time? Organize convoys, scout or be creative.

As it seems now you want: ISK at no risk and safe travels. Sounds more like highsec is your game then


Exactly my thoughts.


some ppl are smart enuff to have good intel channels, maintain infrastructure.. and nice enuff to have many friends, everyone in 0.0 has an eye on local and intel.. whats your point? the real problem is these suprise nerf's that upset power balance, mind you its not players doing this, its artificial aka not sandbox. Earlier announcements or diaf.

Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:52:00 - [1435]
 

Yes, this will make gatecamps more frequent, but it gives a way to small gang pvpers to force 0.0 residents to form up (by bubbling a chokepoint) and go fight them instead of ignoring them like they do right now.

It's not *right* that 0.0 residents can simply ignore intruders.

fattrader II
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:53:00 - [1436]
 

this thread amuses me

good changes

Feyleaf
Posted - 2011.05.11 12:54:00 - [1437]
 

Edited by: Feyleaf on 11/05/2011 13:04:50
Edited by: Feyleaf on 11/05/2011 13:02:54
Edited by: Feyleaf on 11/05/2011 13:00:38
Originally by: Don Pellegrino
Yes, this will make gatecamps more frequent, but it gives a way to small gang pvpers to force 0.0 residents to form up (by bubbling a chokepoint) and go fight them instead of ignoring them like they do right now.

It's not *right* that 0.0 residents can simply ignore intruders.


did your parents ignore you much.. must be hard being ignored like that, get more friends then destroy enemy infrastructure.. whats the problem.. you know diplomacy is also a big part of eve.. alot bigger then say.. spies =)

you could also roam more in places that more suited to your fleet capabilities?

what would really help smallgang pvp in eve is more npc 0.0
this change only gets more cheap ganks.. and we would have to blob you with titan bridge on occation.. no biggie.. its the 7 days that i have a prob with.

Olay Phtang
Amarr
Best Path Inc.
Posted - 2011.05.11 13:02:00 - [1438]
 

All this means is that there will be more titan bridges to work around this, so mass fleet moves won't be affected. All it will do is bring gate campers to new levels of arousal.

Why not have more than one gate between adjacent systems, or

How about a module that can detect what is on the other side of a gate, or if you have Sov , the ability to actually see what is on the other side, or

increase the random range you enter a system to say 40km from the gate.

fattrader II
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.05.11 13:03:00 - [1439]
 

Edited by: fattrader II on 11/05/2011 13:07:15
Originally by: Feyleaf
Edited by: Feyleaf on 11/05/2011 13:00:38
Originally by: Don Pellegrino
Yes, this will make gatecamps more frequent, but it gives a way to small gang pvpers to force 0.0 residents to form up (by bubbling a chokepoint) and go fight them instead of ignoring them like they do right now.

It's not *right* that 0.0 residents can simply ignore intruders.


did your parents ignore you much.. must be hard being ignored like that, get more friends then destroy enemy infrastructure.. whats the problem.. you know diplomacy is also a big part of eve.. alot bigger then say.. spies =)

you could also roam more in places that more suited to your fleet capabilities?

what would really help smallgang pvp in eve is more npc 0.0


alternatively, you can cry on the forums on a nameless alt because moving your raven is going to be so much harder now

Feyleaf
Posted - 2011.05.11 13:09:00 - [1440]
 

Edited by: Feyleaf on 11/05/2011 13:12:25
Edited by: Feyleaf on 11/05/2011 13:10:37
Originally by: fattrader II
Originally by: Feyleaf
Edited by: Feyleaf on 11/05/2011 13:00:38
Originally by: Don Pellegrino
Yes, this will make gatecamps more frequent, but it gives a way to small gang pvpers to force 0.0 residents to form up (by bubbling a chokepoint) and go fight them instead of ignoring them like they do right now.

It's not *right* that 0.0 residents can simply ignore intruders.


did your parents ignore you much.. must be hard being ignored like that, get more friends then destroy enemy infrastructure.. whats the problem.. you know diplomacy is also a big part of eve.. alot bigger then say.. spies =)

you could also roam more in places that more suited to your fleet capabilities?

what would really help smallgang pvp in eve is more npc 0.0


alternatively, you can cry on the forums on a nameless alt about how moving your raven is going to be so much harder now


actually not an alt hehe well kinda.. nameless not rofl, and i own a carrier(wow) so dont really care that much personally(yes i rat in it while being aligned and watching intel and local and no ur not gonna catch me unless my house is on fire.
But recent suprise "rock the boat" nerfs are kinda lame.


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