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K'plar
Gallente
United Federation of Planetary Exploration
Posted - 2011.06.19 14:54:00 - [31]
 

First off... no.
Second, bots have existed since 2003 (release year, yes)
Third, if it would be legalized, I would surely leave and I have been using this toon since 2003.
I'm sure many other long time players would do the same.

Majuan Shuo
Gallente
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.06.20 01:56:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 20/06/2011 01:56:41
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck this idea. You want to legalize macro mining? You know they make people in Chinese prisons do most of this ****?

I will not be privy to this idea if only on those grounds alone.

That One Guy
Posted - 2011.06.20 06:21:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Majuan Shuo
Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 20/06/2011 01:56:41
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck this idea. You want to legalize macro mining? You know they make people in Chinese prisons do most of this ****?

I will not be privy to this idea if only on those grounds alone.

Actually the Chinese use prisoners because the bots keep getting caught by CCP. If macro mining was legal then China could just run a bunch of bots, thus giving the prisoners enough free time to go frolic in nature... BRILLIANT!

Captain Torgo
The Geedunk Expedition
Posted - 2011.06.22 04:24:00 - [34]
 

Or just change the way mining is conducted. In it's current form it's a hands-off "activity" that requires minimal imput from the miner. This is why it's so easy to automate with a bot.

Have any of you ever played the smartphone game called Galaxy on Fire 2? It's sort of like playing a watered down single player version of EvE, but the mining in that game is fun and engaging.

How mining works in that game is when you start mining an asteroid, a target with several ring layers appears along with a drill cursor. The cursor tends to wander off in random directions (the severity of the wander depends on mining drill quality).

Time ticks down and the target gets smaller and smaller. To continue mining, you have to keep the cursor within the target or the drill breaks. As long as you keep the cursor within the target, your cargo hold continues to fill with ore (I can't find any examples of the mining in this game).

It's a great mini game that's fun. I wish CCP would do something similar with mining.

Nariya Kentaya
Coalition Of Gentlemen.
Posted - 2011.06.22 05:01:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Captain Torgo
Or just change the way mining is conducted. In it's current form it's a hands-off "activity" that requires minimal imput from the miner. This is why it's so easy to automate with a bot.

Have any of you ever played the smartphone game called Galaxy on Fire 2? It's sort of like playing a watered down single player version of EvE, but the mining in that game is fun and engaging.

How mining works in that game is when you start mining an asteroid, a target with several ring layers appears along with a drill cursor. The cursor tends to wander off in random directions (the severity of the wander depends on mining drill quality).

Time ticks down and the target gets smaller and smaller. To continue mining, you have to keep the cursor within the target or the drill breaks. As long as you keep the cursor within the target, your cargo hold continues to fill with ore (I can't find any examples of the mining in this game).

It's a great mini game that's fun. I wish CCP would do something similar with mining.


your idea may be good in theory, but remember that that would require the miner to focus on JUST that minigame if they iomplemented something similar to that, meaning you couldnt hit multiple roids at once, and any kind fo many game would make the miner unable to respond to NPC or player pirates who may pop in to cause some damage, and even if you say they could just "close out the mini-game" thats still one more step between them and responding to a threat, so on that note, unles you have to do a minigame to target lock and fire, i dont see it being plausible for a miner to have to do it, simply on the basis that they wouldnt be able to react afst enough tot heir environment while mining.

Akatenshi Xi
Amarr
Elite Shadow Society
Waterboard
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:57:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Wolodymyr
Because no sentient creature would willingly inflict the boredom of asteroid mining on themselves.


Apparently you do sir. kthnx bai.

0Lona 0ltor
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:19:00 - [37]
 

Client side security implementations would remove a lot of botting. Software that actually determines what is running on a users equipment to actively and aggressively attack botters.

CCP don't care about botting anyway, they give users 3 warnings about it, so that's 2 times ccp don't care. How many warnings do ISK sellers get? Oh wait none once they get caught they get an unfair ban while botters get to carry on 2 more times.

Andronicus Maximo
Posted - 2011.06.24 23:23:00 - [38]
 

Macro mining is not for me but....you should never regulate against something if you cannot enforce the regulation. We all know of chars or alts that do it. It's here and you can't reverse technology. CCPs punitive 'holidays' don't seem to be a deterent. So, how about this proposal:
a)remove Concord protection for macro miners - let them continue but at greater risk of losing their ships and illicit gains.
b)make the roid belts spawn less often. Miners will have to travel further to find them (possibly to places they wouldn't normally go) and corporations will monitor and defend their local systems more closely.
EVE is a dog-eat-dog universe, a little vigilante action wouldn't be out of placeYARRRR!!


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