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Atra Hasis
Posted - 2011.05.08 02:29:00 - [1]

I've been playing for a while now and I just wondered if the denizens of New Eden are aware of their whole past - basically, did they or did they not watch the intro movie?

Ellis Croix
Posted - 2011.05.08 03:30:00 - [2]

According to The Empyrean Age novel, knowledge of "Terra" (the birthplace of mankind) persists. It isn't common knowledge, and there isn't a consensus as to whether it is a reference to a world, solar system, region or constellation.

According to The Vitrauze Project chronicle, there is knowledge (at least for the Gallente, or those with the right education) that they are descended from colonists who came to New Eden from the EVE Gate.

As to whether they watch the Intro Movie... the new one or the old one? Razz

Deviana Sevidon
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.08 16:04:00 - [3]

Also all of four empires went through a dark age that took millenia to recover from. With the exception of the Jove and arguably the Sleeper, Talocan and Jin-Mei almost all pre-collapse information was lost.

Wyke Mossari
Posted - 2011.05.08 17:35:00 - [4]

The familiarity of the general population of New Eden overall narrative will vary a lot depending on their background and level of education or indoctrination.

Elements of the narrative probably pervade oral, cultural and popular history in things Nursery Rhyme, Fairy tails, parables with many people regarding it as legends and myths. Just consider how the Bible, Greek mythology, Shakespeare even celebrity catch phrases pervade popular culture.

Some scholars both academic and religious probably regard the similarities in the narrative on different worlds very intriguing, when those ledgends predate any possible modern connection.

Legend/Myth/Fairy Tail/Parables
Religious Conviction
Religious Heresy
Academic theory
Historical Record

Also what we as players know to be 'canon' is not necessarily known (and believed) by our characters.

Esna Pitoojee
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.05.08 20:38:00 - [5]

Vague myths, stories, and legends are probably the closest you're going to get. It's also worth noting that the chronicle "Time and the Astrologer", which describes how the 5 empires of New Eden collectively chose a calendar method, was modified by CCP to remove references to "Old Earth" and "Terra", instead replacing them with "early post-collapse settlers".

To clarify what this means, CCP decided that even between the 5 greatest civilizations in New Eden, with all their technical, hitorical, and archeological knowledge, did not regard any information about Old Terra as solid enough to present as reasoning for usage of a specific time and date system; their knowledge of such instead came solely from study of early settlements in New Eden at or after the time of the EVE gate collapse.

Atra Hasis
Posted - 2011.05.08 22:27:00 - [6]

Thanks dudes, I never really thought about it till recently, thx fr clarifying! Surprised

Posted - 2011.05.09 02:10:00 - [7]

we can also conclude in that wine, cattle, wheat and cigarettes are traded in near even quantities in all 4 empires, that tobacco, grapes, wheat and cows (and probably other useful species that simply are not mentioned) were found on all of the empire's original home worlds. understanding evolution at least as well as modern humanity dose, the people of New Eden would likely conclude that these species are also tarren in nature, by nature of them being on all of the home worlds as well as human digestible. There is also of matter of the Wolf, which is considered a mythological creature, as seen in the description of the assault ship of the same name. Going one step further hear, we could also say they are able to translate some or all tarren script, well enough to understand our calender pretty well, and they even have the same name for Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, although they have no knowledge of who or what Heisenberg was.

on the other hand the raven is named after a large black bird with an annoying call that lives on Caldari prime, and is not necessarily genetically compatible with what we would call a raven in 2011, raven is simply the best English translation. I chose everything i would be willing to say New Eden knows about earth to any specific reference to the pre-collapse, or about not truly understanding the name, in which case i think it has been treated like a proper noun and not translated,

Deviana Sevidon
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.10 13:45:00 - [8]

Not only the raven, but a variety of other ships have names of creatures that are absent from the EVE universe, or names of mythological figures of myth that have certainly been lost.

The Hyperion is one example, the story about a greek titan representing the sun is probably lost, but the Gallente have likely their own myth and characters from their story, so they take one of them to name their ship. The real name of the ship, spoken in Gallente, would probably sound much different, but 'Hyperion' is as a name the closest thing we would be able to understand.


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