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Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.05.05 15:34:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Salpun on 05/05/2011 19:18:59
As a Dev blog has not been released yet, whats in the new sisi patch?

Must be good if no one has stoped playing with it and posted about itShocked

When I get home i'll post something for all those out there that can't get on yet unless someone beats me to it first.Twisted Evil

1. Fleet finder has been changed again the first two buttons are built into the main fleet tab. Now leaving fleet is not hid in a right click menu.

2.?

Fan fest items promised- update.

Blueprint changes not active yet from what i've seen.
No access to a pos to test pos changes.
Agents have not tested.







anvyl sky
Posted - 2011.05.05 20:39:00 - [2]
 

agents have no more quality, just lvl, it appears. dont know about connection skills, as i dont have those on tq :)
someone should test about agent divisions, they wanted to change something there too. so security should now īgive ONLY fight missions, transport ONLY transport mining only mining and so on.

Sarmatiko
Posted - 2011.05.05 21:24:00 - [3]
 

There is lol less agant divisions now. They are distributed on categories "Security", "Distribution" and "Mining" and "R&D". Moreover old Personell division which was mostly pure combat division was moved to the "Distribution" category and thats makes me feel butthurt. Please CCP move Personell and Legal to the Security.
Also this all means that you only do combat, mining or courier missions.

Chowdercannon
Amarr
Special Aces
Posted - 2011.05.05 21:58:00 - [4]
 

It appears they have refunded the SP for Military and Political Connections as well.

The Huffarunier
Gallente
The Real OC
Posted - 2011.05.05 22:48:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Sarmatiko
There is lol less agant divisions now. They are distributed on categories "Security", "Distribution" and "Mining" and "R&D". Moreover old Personell division which was mostly pure combat division was moved to the "Distribution" category and thats makes me feel butthurt. Please CCP move Personell and Legal to the Security.
Also this all means that you only do combat, mining or courier missions.


this! i fly for personnel agents and get a courier mission only so often... i liked that mix. making it all combat or all courier will make me have to refocus everything i do.

having lots of divisions was useful in getting a good mix of missions, cutting it down is bad.

Alexila Quant
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.06 03:11:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: The Huffarunier
Originally by: Sarmatiko
There is lol less agant divisions now. They are distributed on categories "Security", "Distribution" and "Mining" and "R&D". Moreover old Personell division which was mostly pure combat division was moved to the "Distribution" category and thats makes me feel butthurt. Please CCP move Personell and Legal to the Security.
Also this all means that you only do combat, mining or courier missions.


this! i fly for personnel agents and get a courier mission only so often... i liked that mix. making it all combat or all courier will make me have to refocus everything i do.

having lots of divisions was useful in getting a good mix of missions, cutting it down is bad.


Yeah they would. I finally break down and buy those books and they remove them. 20m and 20k LP is chump change granted but I had been avoiding those books for months.

The Huffarunier
Gallente
The Real OC
Posted - 2011.05.06 03:15:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Alexila Quant
Originally by: The Huffarunier
Originally by: Sarmatiko
There is lol less agant divisions now. They are distributed on categories "Security", "Distribution" and "Mining" and "R&D". Moreover old Personell division which was mostly pure combat division was moved to the "Distribution" category and thats makes me feel butthurt. Please CCP move Personell and Legal to the Security.
Also this all means that you only do combat, mining or courier missions.


this! i fly for personnel agents and get a courier mission only so often... i liked that mix. making it all combat or all courier will make me have to refocus everything i do.

having lots of divisions was useful in getting a good mix of missions, cutting it down is bad.


Yeah they would. I finally break down and buy those books and they remove them. 20m and 20k LP is chump change granted but I had been avoiding those books for months.



Yeah they would what? I didn't ask a question. I stand by that boiling mission agents down to four types is crazy. Perhaps there can be some streamlining of just what the difference really is between the types but making them generic isn't good.

I'd check this out myself but SiSi refuses to load.

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
The KWFL Republic
Posted - 2011.05.06 12:18:00 - [8]
 

Just in case this hasn't been noted, payouts appear to have been nerfed as well as the LP boosting books taken out of the game.
Does anybody know if the negotiations skill even works anymore? It's supposed to increase effective quality but that attribute doesn't exist.

I noticed my l5 agent went from 70-80k LP to 50-60k LP, and that was with only polit/military connections lvl3

Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.05.06 12:30:00 - [9]
 

Agents database looks like it got corrupted again. Clicking on the agent tab keeps locking up the station interface for me.

CCP Habakuk

Posted - 2011.05.06 12:57:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Salpun
Agents database looks like it got corrupted again. Clicking on the agent tab keeps locking up the station interface for me.


Clear your client cache (through the ESC menu).

Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.05.06 15:25:00 - [11]
 

Yep that worked lol.

Is everything implemented?

Kirynn
Posted - 2011.05.06 15:34:00 - [12]
 

Im glad they boiled the agent types down, if i want a courier mission il go and use a courier agent, now i just get to choose when i do that rather than be randomly annoyed.

However, I also agree that personnel should now be combat, seems odd to change what people most use an agent for.

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.06 18:19:00 - [13]
 

Wow... i'm speechless. Can't even say "nerf"

Ivanna Nuke
Gallente
Holders Of The Cowbell
Posted - 2011.05.06 18:49:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Ivanna Nuke on 06/05/2011 18:55:28
Oh can you say mission ***** rage?

I may be a mission *****, a real mission ***** I shall admit, however that this does NOT bother me, it's a good move, as I feel it will help stop people hanging in one area, and force them to spread into the vast unused abiss.

Good move CCP.

Phigmeta
Posted - 2011.05.06 18:58:00 - [15]
 

stupid move actually ... hey CCP how about this ....

FIX THE DAMN BUGS AND STOP CRAPING IN MY SANDBOX

OH yeah I get to walk around in a station but i have to reboot my client every 3 hours.

Your turning this game into "a second life" with a darkside

in conclusion,

Fix bugs and stop trying to change the gameplay

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.06 19:24:00 - [16]
 

Don't be fooled, this is part of a project to reduce the amount of ISK on the market, and increase its value.

You could casually make 2b isk per week with high-sec missioning, if you knew wth you were doing.

steave435
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.05.06 23:15:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Copine Callmeknau
Just in case this hasn't been noted, payouts appear to have been nerfed as well as the LP boosting books taken out of the game.
Does anybody know if the negotiations skill even works anymore? It's supposed to increase effective quality but that attribute doesn't exist.

I noticed my l5 agent went from 70-80k LP to 50-60k LP, and that was with only polit/military connections lvl3

Didn't they say something before about dynamic quality depending on how much a agent is used or something? Maybe that one is overused, or just on the base value since it was just ontroduced and starting from scratch.

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
The KWFL Republic
Posted - 2011.05.06 23:21:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: steave435
Originally by: Copine Callmeknau
Just in case this hasn't been noted, payouts appear to have been nerfed as well as the LP boosting books taken out of the game.
Does anybody know if the negotiations skill even works anymore? It's supposed to increase effective quality but that attribute doesn't exist.

I noticed my l5 agent went from 70-80k LP to 50-60k LP, and that was with only polit/military connections lvl3

Didn't they say something before about dynamic quality depending on how much a agent is used or something? Maybe that one is overused, or just on the base value since it was just ontroduced and starting from scratch.

It might be the 'base value'. Lets hope it goes up rather than down as peoiple start to use the agent.
I checked 3-4 agents btw, to make sure it wasn't just a fluke

----

Just ran the maths, looks like I'm out 300mil in lost skills and useless implants if they really remove the connections books.
Do not want CCP
DO NOT WANT

David Clausewitz
Amarr
Posted - 2011.05.07 01:21:00 - [19]
 

when does this change go through

and what sort of rep will we need now?

Linda Shadowborn
Gallente
Dark Steel Industries
Posted - 2011.05.07 01:52:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: steave435
Didn't they say something before about dynamic quality depending on how much a agent is used or something? Maybe that one is overused, or just on the base value since it was just ontroduced and starting from scratch.


And they have posted that wont go live. (its in the missions forum in a large thread started by Tippia if memory serves)

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.07 08:42:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Ivanna Nuke
Edited by: Ivanna Nuke on 06/05/2011 18:55:28
Oh can you say mission ***** rage?

I may be a mission *****, a real mission ***** I shall admit, however that this does NOT bother me, it's a good move, as I feel it will help stop people hanging in one area, and force them to spread into the vast unused abiss.

Good move CCP.


The result will be very different from your aspectations.

Mission runners will migrate to the few systems that:
1) are 0.5-0.6
2) don't have nearby low sec systems
3) possibly have several combat agents

I haven't done a survey but I doubt we will have a lot of systems satisfy all those conditions, so we will end with a few mission hubs as before, simply they will be different hubs.



The Huffarunier
Gallente
The Real OC
Posted - 2011.05.07 12:33:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: The Huffarunier on 07/05/2011 13:23:48
Edited by: The Huffarunier on 07/05/2011 12:42:55
I call BS on this modification. I don't find myself caring so much about the dynamic agent quality I stand by that limiting it down to three or four agent types of a bad move and unnecessary.

Looks like Administration agents went to Security, Personnel agents went to distribution.

half my agents went to courier only missions I presume.

edit: Ok, I've looked around at all the agents in my area and found reasonable alternative relocations. However, I found an area of space thats completely devoid of anything useful.

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.08 16:31:00 - [23]
 

CCP has not only removed agent quality and reorganized the divisions.

They have removed or moved at least some of them.

I was checking the effect of the change on my agents and the first thing I noticed was that the 4 Quafe agents in Iro have been removed.

Nice joke.


Glyken Touchon
Gallente
Independent Alchemists
Posted - 2011.05.08 23:14:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: anvyl sky
agents have no more quality, just lvl, it appears. dont know about connection skills, as i dont have those on tq :)
someone should test about agent divisions, they wanted to change something there too. so security should now īgive ONLY fight missions, transport ONLY transport mining only mining and so on.


any idea what happens to the mission series that are a mix of combat/courier?


 

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