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Igualmentedos
Caldari
Posted - 2011.04.29 01:48:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Igualmentedos on 29/04/2011 01:48:44
I need a new PC for general gaming. I'm not too hardcore into gaming but I would like to play Crysis 2 and BF 3 when it comes out. I would prefer parts from newegg because I've always had a pleasant experience with them. Ideally I'd like to keep it under $600 and I already have the case, but need everything else. any suggestions?

Derset
Posted - 2011.04.29 02:35:00 - [2]
 

This'll get you started:

AMD mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130559
AMD Phenom II: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103846
RAM (2x4GB DDR3): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311
Vid card (GTX 550 Fermi): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130625
500GB WD HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136795
750W PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006
CD/DVD Burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

All for $582 shipped to my zip.

Enjoy

Lithalnas
Amarr
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.29 04:45:00 - [3]
 

Well if you are willing to spend 140 over your budget you can go from an AMD dual core to an intel quad core.

There is a nice package over at newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.634257
Add an Palit 460 768mb from galaxy
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162058
bring you to 625 then you have to buy Win7 for 100$

Igualmentedos
Caldari
Posted - 2011.04.29 05:57:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Igualmentedos on 29/04/2011 05:57:42
Thank you for the advice so far. I definitely want to go with a quad core CPU. What are the main differences between Intel and AMD? Also, how much better is sandy bridge compared to the older CPU's. Obviously I'm looking for the best bang for my buck while future proofing as much as possible.

My ideal specifications would be around:

-8 GB of RAM

-quad core CPU (or six core if it's even worth it?)
I have heard that a new line of AMD CPU's are coming out in a couple months, should I wait for those before making a final decision?

-A decent graphics card (mid-line). Also On the graphics card; ATI or Nvidia? Please don't start a flame war, I would just like a breakdown of what would be better for a slightly casual gamer. After viewing benchmarks it seems as though nvidia costs more but performs better. Is this generally the case?

-IDC about the hard drive or DVD drive since those are so cheap anyways.

-The power supply. What should I be aiming for? The above poster had a link for a 750w PSU. Is that too much or am I just misinformed?

-On the motherboard would I need to have USB 3.0? Or will I be fine with USB 2.0?

*I forgot to add that I wont be purchasing W7 I already have a copy.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.04.29 06:45:00 - [5]
 

RAM is dirt-cheap these days. You can upgrade from 4 to 8 and barely feel the difference.
For gaming, the CPU is not very important anymore. The bottleneck has mostly moved to the video card. A cheap 4-core will be more than sufficient in the upcoming years. You might want to go with AMD here.
Best bang for buck right now as far as graphics cards go, I would say either a Radeon 5770 or a 460 GTX. Which to pick depends on your budget and what games you want to play. You can always get a second one of the same type later if newer games no longer run smooth enough.
750W is way too much, unless you're dipping into the cheap PSU pool. I have a quality 550W and it's more than enough for an i5 760 with a 460 GTX. It might need an upgrade if I plan to buy a second 460 and overclock my CPU, but I won't buy a second one for the next 2-3 years, I never overclock my CPUs (heck, I even turned off the auto-small-overclocking feature) and when I will make an upgrade, the whole machine will be replaced (and this one either sold or gifted away, or kept as an emergency replacement), so why bother.

Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.29 10:35:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Igualmentedos
Edited by: Igualmentedos on 29/04/2011 01:48:44
I need a new PC for general gaming. I'm not too hardcore into gaming but I would like to play Crysis 2 and BF 3 when it comes out. I would prefer parts from newegg because I've always had a pleasant experience with them. Ideally I'd like to keep it under $600 and I already have the case, but need everything else. any suggestions?


600 dollars would not get you anything were I live, I had to put out 2500 dollars to get a decent comp. Then again I am not aware of the prices in US, and the NOK is a lot stronger then US dollars atm. Perhasp a bit cheaper if you build teh desktop yourself, I perfer to put most of it in laptops actually. Only thing I miss on my laptop now is more outputs for screens, basically the only thing keeping me from phasing out desktops permanently.

That said, get at least 8 GB RAM, its cheap. Get a decent CPU, I like the new i7's, and a decent graphics card. On my laptop I got some nvidia card 460 something (also the i7 and RAM). I got no problem running new games at max settings and still have good fps.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.04.29 11:23:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 29/04/2011 11:46:05
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
600 dollars would not get you anything were I live, I had to put out 2500 dollars to get a decent comp. Then again I am not aware of the prices in US, and the NOK is a lot stronger then US dollars atm. Perhasp a bit cheaper if you build teh desktop yourself, I perfer to put most of it in laptops actually.

Well, as soon as you said "laptop", you're already talking probably up to double prices compared to a desktop with the same performance, if not more.
Also, while the taxes should be quite high anywhere in the EU, I strongly doubt you're looking at even half extra compared to the USA overall across the entire machine.

I picked one of the first Norwegian computer shop sites I found via Google (microplex.no), and searched semi-randomly for a few components on both that site and newegg.
AMD Phenom X4 965 II Black Edition -> 159$ on newegg, 1095 NOK ~= 209$ on the other site (~ +32%)
Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 -> 135$ on newegg, 995 NOK ~= 190$ on the other site (~ +40%)
ASUS GeForce GTX 550Ti -> 150$ on newegg, 1150 NOK ~= 219$ on the other site (~ +46%)
HDD Western Digital 2 TB Black -> 160$ on newegg, 1095 NOK ~= 209$ on the other site (~ +31%)
and so on and so forth

So... while in Norway you might need to pay the equivalent of 800$ or even 900$ to buy a decent desktop "box" (for which you'd only pay around 600$ in the USA), 2500 is just going way, way overboard.
That's what you have to pay if you insist on using a laptop for gaming, I guess... why the hell would you, though ? You get serious, SERIOUS heat problems if you use it at peak capability, and battery life is woefully inadequate. If you're going to use it mostly like a desktop (so, you know, nice big cooling station, always plugged in, and so on)... you might as well buy a desktop to begin with, then.

Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Get a decent CPU, I like the new i7's, and a decent graphics card. On my laptop I got some nvidia card 460 something (also the i7 and RAM). I got no problem running new games at max settings and still have good fps.

You probably mean Sandybridge ? They're not all i7s, the best "bang for buck" is an i5. Anyway, none of them support triple channel RAM. Might as well save money and get an AMD. When you also figure in the motherboard, for roughly the same performance, AMDs are a bit cheaper.

ALSO, mobile CPUs and GPUs, while they might carry the same "identification" as the desktop counterparts, they're designed with power consumption in mind first, and have significantly lower performances at higher prices.
For instance, a GeForce GTX 460M laptop video card doesn't even have the speed of a desktop GeForce GTS 450, or barely over half the speed of a desktop GeForce GTX 460. But you can bet that it actually added more to the cost of the laptop than a desktop 460 GTX would have cost.
Likewise, a Intel Core i7-840QM Clarksfield 1.86GHz mobile CPU costs around 580$, and a Intel Core i7-2820QM Sandy Bridge 2.3GHz mobile CPU costs around 600$, but the former doesn't even have the processing power of a desktop i5 750 (which costs around 200$ tops, if you can even find one), while the latter is roughly on par with a desktop i7 950, which only costs around 270$, and actually worse than the cheapest desktop sandybridge, the i5-2400, which only costs around 190$.

Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.29 12:11:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Akita T



Yes, laptops are a bit more expencive. My point was that 600 dollars is not all that much and may only get you a decent one, not a great one.

My laptop is a great one, becuse I willfully spent a lot on it since I want the mobility. I also got a desktop on standby. Also, the cooling is flawless, the old idea that laptop cooling is inferior is outdated. Unless you buy a low end laptop.

The point may not have come accross since I typed it in a hurry in one of my breaks.

Even so, US dollars compared to NOK is weak atm. If I decide to buy say a T-shirt like I did last week from a US store, I pay under half (including shipping) then if I had bought one locally in a store. Many of my frinds also buy a lot of stuff from US since it is so cheap.

Now, realtively to the local economies, and wages etc, I suspect I must shell out about the same % as US folk do when I buy locally.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.04.29 12:27:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
The point may not have come accross since I typed it in a hurry in one of my breaks.

Sure was in a hurry, because now when you had the time, you did specify "great laptop" whereas before it was "decent comp" Wink
And anyway, for the needs the OP has expressed, bought and used in the USA, 600$ should be more than enough.


 

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