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StillBorn CrackBaby
Posted - 2011.04.28 19:53:00 - [181]
 

Originally by: Jenn aSide
Originally by: StillBorn CrackBaby
The bottom line is that CCP allows me to buy GTC's to trade for ISK. Since I play the game the way I WANT to play it, what ever the busybodies have to say about how I spend my RL cash is completely irrelevant...

And if the day comes I can no longer do this, I will just find something else to play...


Buying GTCs is not "playing" anything, it's just a short cut for people who either really don't have time or who don't like the ways of making isk in game.

I don't really care, to each his own, and I benefit from the GTC short cut system because I can use easily acquired in game isk generated by those short cutters to play the game without costing my family a dime. Win-Win all around.

I simply respnded to the OP because his "suggestion" that people just buy GTCs is stupid, the way he presented it.

He could have basically said "I'd rather go to work than pve in EVE because eve pve is boring to me, I wish CCP would give us better content" and been done with it lol. I like the portions of eve pve that I partake in (even after the "Anom nerf", forsaken Hubs and old fashion exploration are great) and I'm sorry he doesn't.

It was his condescending tone against people who actually like to play the game without short cuts (in addition to his gross inaccuracies about real life money making, which leads me to believe that he must be trolling, $35 an hour indeed :) ) that I was replying to.

I don't care that you buy GTCs, more power to you, but again, if the OP finds eve so lacking and "Grindy" to the point that going to work is more fun than playing, well, he's just in the wrong game, period.

Yeah man... Actually I think you and I agree more than what it may seem. Happy flying.... (Oh and yes $35 an hour is a reality for some of us. My best year was $126K so whatever that works out to for a 37.5 hour week)...

Liz Laser
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2011.04.28 20:20:00 - [182]
 

I can grind iskies clicking a mining laser every few minutes while doing housework, watching TV, or reading.

In high sec at zero risk, in null-sec you just need to be in comms and turn the speakers up while in a fleet where at least ONE person is situationally aware enough to rally people and/or fleet warp.

But the last year or so I was in a corp/alliance where the SRPs for PvP yielded me a profit every time I died, so I didn't have to grind at all.

It will be interesting to see if I can get back into grinding, having joined a new corp this week.

Anuiruson Bennington
Posted - 2011.04.29 04:35:00 - [183]
 

plant's a large M-100 near the OP's chair.

"This should be fun. So easy a Caldari can do it."

Lol

Odo Ven
Posted - 2011.04.29 04:48:00 - [184]
 

Edited by: Odo Ven on 29/04/2011 04:47:52
Originally by: StillBorn CrackBaby
(Oh and yes $35 an hour is a reality for some of us. My best year was $126K so whatever that works out to for a 37.5 hour week)...


I'm making about 2k euro an hour sqeezing diamonds out of my arse. Would you like a shine at my shoes mate?

Blackjack 3v3
Posted - 2011.04.29 14:34:00 - [185]
 

Originally by: death klokk
Steps for success:

1. Get an education.
2. Get job with said education.
3. Buy GTC
4. Sell

rinse/repeat.

Everyday I come across a thread where someone asks or boasts about earning 80-100mil isk per hour. Now mind you, some people PVE for reasons other than trying to maximize their in-game wealth as fast as possible (IE: running lvl 5s with friends while having a good time on vent/ts, or being constructive by mining while watching your favorite tv program) and if you fall into that category of casual player, then you can move on to the next topic.
However, I've always wondered why people spend so much time grinding their way to capital ships, faction fitted ships..etc etc at a snail's pace. Not everyone agrees with what I will say, but most will agree that time=money. The thing about time is that its universal. Time spent in game could be time spent doing something more profitable IRL.

GTC's are currently priced at 35$ USD and selling for like 700mil each give or take 20mil. Any decent job will pay you that for an hour of work. 100mil isk an hour grinding L4s or plexing whatever effectively translates into 5$ an hour. That number gets even lower if your not blitzing said missions in a pimped out golem. I don't really know of anyone that would work 7hrs a day for 35$. Heck, current minimum wage laws in the US pay more than that. When I first started playing EvE a few years ago, I would skip out of work early so I could get home and play. That is, until i realized how I was lowering the value of my time. It amazes me how many people grind all night for a few hundred million and complain about how much of a chore or "like a 2nd job" it is to play.

So unless you grind isk because your RL income is driven from RMTs from game, or you're a child who can't work; Is your time really worth 5$ an hour? If it is, see step 1.

Once liberated from the 'boring' aspects of the game and the fear of losing your 20mil fit rifter, you'll find a new found love for the game.

flame on.

tl;dr: Buy GTCs, your time is worth more than 5$ an hour... i think.


Not a big forum fan in general, however this has got to be one of the stupidest justifications of "paying for power" in a video game I ever read. Well eve is a free to play & a pay to play game in ONE. High mark on the dev team for the accomplishment.

So kids go to school , get a job and some day you`ll be able to fly internet spaceships like you`re dad - priceless

StillBorn CrackBaby
Posted - 2011.04.29 14:42:00 - [186]
 

Originally by: Odo Ven
Edited by: Odo Ven on 29/04/2011 04:47:52
Originally by: StillBorn CrackBaby
(Oh and yes $35 an hour is a reality for some of us. My best year was $126K so whatever that works out to for a 37.5 hour week)...


I'm making about 2k euro an hour sqeezing diamonds out of my arse. Would you like a shine at my shoes mate?


How about I inspect yer butt and pick up any loose drop offs hoping they glitter???

Odo Ven
Posted - 2011.04.29 18:10:00 - [187]
 

Originally by: StillBorn CrackBaby
Originally by: Odo Ven
Edited by: Odo Ven on 29/04/2011 04:47:52
Originally by: StillBorn CrackBaby
(Oh and yes $35 an hour is a reality for some of us. My best year was $126K so whatever that works out to for a 37.5 hour week)...


I'm making about 2k euro an hour sqeezing diamonds out of my arse. Would you like a shine at my shoes mate?


How about I inspect yer butt and pick up any loose drop offs hoping they glitter???


That will do, so long as you deposite them in my vault for safe keeping.

Opertone
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.04.29 18:14:00 - [188]
 

Edited by: Opertone on 29/04/2011 18:24:23
PRO soccer -

get 50 balls, win

pro chess, contact woodmakers, order as many pieces as you want

pro boxing, use stun grenades and shocker to knock your opponents out

answer, no you moron, this is a game, you play by the rules to enjoy the process, not to win a big e-peen

SUPER EDIT: go on sisi and blow up stuff... big isk, riches, repsect, but no effort-satisfaction (like playing a game on easy mode)

Hieronimus Rex
Minmatar
Infinitus Sapientia
Hav0k.
Posted - 2011.04.29 22:06:00 - [189]
 

Edited by: Hieronimus Rex on 29/04/2011 22:06:12
Isn't one of the most-touted features of EVE the whole avoidance of grinding...so you can just train skills and walk away from your computer while they train up? Why are people coming out of the woodwork to defend grinding for ISK? What's wrong with saying there's equivalence between the value of your work time and the value of your leisure time?

fathitman
Gallente
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2011.04.29 23:04:00 - [190]
 

I hope you realize that holding a degree or cert does not guarantee a job for you lol. So really its, Join the military lol


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