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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar
Federal Investigations Agency
Posted - 2011.04.25 07:48:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
I want the girl who stole something precious and broke something special, from me to......

well I dont know. Despite her stealing ways she made me happy. So maybe come back for a while, let her know all is forgiven.


Insurance against theft never covers a stolen and broken heart. And I'm not sure about if this was theft anyway. Well, the heart is still pumping and inside your chest isn't it? What might be broken are your dreams…

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.25 15:06:00 - [32]
 

I hope I express this well... Yesterday, I looted an unsecured can and warned the owner that I was about to do so. I was warned by another pilot with these words, "I wouldn't do that if I were you." That warning came because the person I was stealing from was a person of power, well equipped and quite able of destroying my ship. "If I were you?" These are interesting words, and it finally dawned on me what it is all about. Capsuleers and non-capsuleers share this in common; a fear of loss. What they do not share in common is what they fundamentally fear to lose. What we fear to lose impact our values deeply. The world at large generally fear to lose their live ultimately. Cloning has changed that for the capsuleer. "If I were you." These words ring in my ear. The warner assumed I shared his fear; NOT the fear of losing life, but the fear of losing stuff. Losing a ship, losing nerual implants, losing the days harvest, losing weapons and rigs... but not life. What arrogance is heaped upon the collective conscience of the capsuleers. I will spend much time in my quest testing this observation among those from whom I steal. Since I maintain no equipment that isn't automatically replaced even if I am podded, I can stand outside this insane fear of loss while still not fearing the loss of my body. You reflections please...

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2011.04.25 21:32:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Obsidian Hawk on 25/04/2011 21:54:22
Originally by: Alica Wildfire
Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
I want the girl who stole something precious and broke something special, from me to......

well I dont know. Despite her stealing ways she made me happy. So maybe come back for a while, let her know all is forgiven.


Insurance against theft never covers a stolen and broken heart. And I'm not sure about if this was theft anyway. Well, the heart is still pumping and inside your chest isn't it? What might be broken are your dreams…


So my comments got eaten mysteriously.

But what I meant to say is, it could be considered theft in a sense. not all things that were stolen have to be tangible.

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.25 23:17:00 - [34]
 

Today was a productive, mystifying day. Many of the hidden turmoils in the hearts of capsuleers were brought out in they day's work. I saw glimmer of personal defensiveness when the so called victims of theft were questioned about their responses. That defensiveness tells me that not everyone in confident in the skin of their moral ambiguity. Can we call that "hopeful?" I uncovered another dark corner of the casuleer heart. Some savor the destruction they cause. Caught in warp scrambler, I was made to "wait" while the individual told me that I was not worth the ammo to destroy, while thers followed just to observe the spectical. I knew, of course that that was not true and she would destroy me. I asked the person what they valued that would lead them to a violent response. I am sorry to report that "stuff" "ISK" seems to be the top motivator.
Another did not destroy me but denegrated the items I stole. Often when we lose something that we consider our property, it helps to denegrate that property. Perhaps we feel less of a loss that way.
There seemed to be a strange combination of agression and playfulness among the capsuleers this afternoon. Some were humored that their fellow "eggers" were being robbed. Some rushed to see the unarmed thief destroyed. The arena was open for business, so to speak.
Capsuleers have definitely had their humanity altered, not just their bodies. But I am not yet ready to say definitively how. More time and research is needed.

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.26 02:28:00 - [35]
 

I have much on my heart tonight. I have begun to feel a great burden for my fellow capsuleers. I have started to use more provocative communication when I steal from cans and wrecks. I have been trying to "bring out" what is locked up in the spirit of the capsuleer. Tonight I encountered isolation and loneliness. I discovered that agression and violence is a way for the capsuleer to perpetuate isolation. Several capsuleers were unnerved when I returned after my ship was destroyed. When they discovered that destroying my ship would not stop my interaction with them, I think it highlighted that isolation had become a force of habit in their existence. There are enough entrails of true humanity left in the gut of the capsuleer to make him or her chafe at their isolation. Hope remains!

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.26 14:47:00 - [36]
 

Would the human body notice the absence of but one corpuscle? Yet the capsuleer enrages at the loss of tiniest of his possessions as if his body were being drained of its life blood. In my thefts, I intentionally take very little of true material value. Those from whom I steel have vast wealth and I take but a corpuscle of it. In this minute taking is revealed the extent to which the greed and avarice of the capsuleer has completely consumed him or her. If one of my "victims" can see this for only a moment, perhaps I will have acheived my purpose. I am here to help you restore your humanity.

Alexi Komanov
Posted - 2011.04.26 23:15:00 - [37]
 

I find most capsuleers to be philosophers or psychopaths, most often both.

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.27 01:38:00 - [38]
 

A remarkable event. I have discovered and anomoly among the capsuleers. In my typical trademark style, I announced to a capsuleer that I was beginning the process of looting his unsecured can. He responded, "Please help yourself." I was greatly surprised; so much so that I refunded the price of the looted items. This definitely goes under its own chapter heading of "anomolies."

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.27 14:10:00 - [39]
 

While my life as a thief is part of a broader purpose of seeking out the mystery of humanity, i.e., the humanity or lack thereof of the capsuleer, I thought it might be instructive to speak of the conventions of being a thief.
I have an M.O. While not strictly a pacifist, I proceed as one. I am never armed when I go out to steal. I do not fight back when attacked. I also do not sell any weapons I take as plunder. I reprocess them and sell the minerals and materials. It is a matter of principle.
I have a calling card. Every thief should. My calling card is to give the "victim" of my theft 1.00 ISK and to inform them that I have looted their wreck or can.
My other calling card has to do with unsecured cans with substantial ammounts of material in them. I always try to contact the "victim" and let them know that I am proceding to steal from them. This affords opportunities to further my research through interaction.
I would be very interested to hear from other theives as to their M.O.'s and Calling Cards.

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.27 19:09:00 - [40]
 

Another remarkable experience just moments ago... I looted an unsecured container, left my calling card and was subsequently destroyed by the capsuleer. He then gave me 500,000 ISK and told me to buy a better ship and learn skills to run missions. Through a prolonged and amusing interaction, the ISK ended up with a newb in system. I am somewhat frustrated that people keep trying to convince me to "find honest work."

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.28 13:47:00 - [41]
 

Morality? I have made some interesting discoveries here, most by accident. I have maintained the policy of training no skills. This eliminates the temptations to acquire ships, weapons, stuff that I may later fear to lose. It keeps the mission "pure."
Many capsuleers claim to adhere to no shared morality, but observation has proved this false. It is amusing to see how there is collective judgement on me for not training skills, for not thieving efficiently, for not having a better ship. They almost seem to abide by some instruction from a "higher power" on how to conduct themselves in New Eden; as if someone were telling them, "you must train skills," "you must work for agents before doing other things," "you must upgrade your ship..." The Capsuleer is really less independent than they would like to think.
When I defy this "shared morality" it almost always gets their hackles up. Hmm. It is like they are trying to tell me, "You aren't doing things the right way."

Jev North
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
Posted - 2011.04.28 16:09:00 - [42]
 

I believe greed, for lack of a better word, is the shared morality of the capsuleer. I suppose it's understandable, because few of us got to where we are by leading a quiet life of contemplation and service to our fellow man.

You've managed to stumble across one of the truths of the cluster there, though. Now stop and think a few moments on why capsuleers need (or think they need) ISK, where it flows from, and why.

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.28 20:57:00 - [43]
 

I would like to provide a 1 Million ISK grant to a worthy capsuleer currently operating in the Piekura system. I know that that is not a lot of ISK for most eggers, but since I have no use for the ISK I get from looting, I thought maybe giving it away might be a good idea. I would like to do this on a regular basis. Please Apply for the grant by posting a reply here on this thread. Just give a short narrative indicating your need and worthiness for the grant. The winner will be announced here and in system. I am particularly interested in seeing applicants indicating a greater awareness of the finer aspect of their humanity.

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.28 21:12:00 - [44]
 

Friends, the grant is now 101 million ISK thanks to a generous grant from Razgriz20. Apply right here on this thread.

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.28 22:12:00 - [45]
 

"I Don't Care" These are three of the most caring words many capsuleers speak. They are spoken when facing the demands of an isolated life. They are most often spoken at the moment when a person's image is the most fragile. When that persona that you work so hard to project begins to fall apart. When your whole reason for being in New Eden begins do bleed back into reality, you say, "I don't care." You hope that these words will snap you back into the comfort and security of your fantasy. Clone, know thyself!

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.29 02:01:00 - [46]
 

I just had a good conversation with a capsuleer about the issue of the desire to control one's own destiny and one's own environment. He pointed out that often, it isn't so much the "stuff" that matters as a defense of what I would call "the perimeter of your world." (Those are my words, not his.) I have to agree with him on this. While I still think that some capsuleers care a lot about the stuff, I do believe that many are more concerned about self-determination. There is a big difference. Some capsuleers have shown great generosity towards me while still defending their own turf. I do respect that. One can be a highly self-determined individual and generous and self-giving as well. I hope to have more and more such new observances in times ahead. P.S. WHile writting this, I got blown to space dust. I gotta pay more attention.Rolling Eyes

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.29 14:15:00 - [47]
 

I am humbled by how naive I have been. Are capsuleers really so rich that 105 Million ISK menas nothing? I can't find anyone who wants the money. Have I been in poverty so long that 105 mil seems like a lot to me? I guess there is a lot more to understand about the capsuleer than I thought. Still, I hope someone will apply for the grant. There has got to be someone who can do some good with it.

San Fransisco
Red Federation
Posted - 2011.04.29 14:39:00 - [48]
 

So I've been reading these here musings and it occurs to me that you are actually depriving the "victim" of more than the things you steal.

Time is the only resource that is equal to us all. I would think that the time it takes to peruse you and "seek vengeance" is actually more valuable than the few chunks of rock you took. Maybe the emotions you pull out of people are actually worth more than some trinket module.

Anyway since you're offering I would be honored to accept the isk. Ive been hunting pirates for weeks now and I still don't feel any closer to achieving my goal. I want to follow in my Papa's warp trail and explore new systems finding ancient relics and bring back knowledge from the dead. Suffice it to say the cost of durable ship is prohibitive to that goal. My dream ship would be a Prophecy Class Battlecruiser. I think they look like a golden eagle diving through the air.

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.29 17:39:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Ston Momaki on 29/04/2011 18:09:53
OK San Fansisco, the grant is yours. Can you come to Piekura? or how do I get it to you. How do I get the pay option from the forumn? If your come to Piekura, I know how to do it from there. Help me out here.
OK I figured it out with help from someone here locally. Check your wallet San Fransisco, the ISK should be there. I hope I can trust you to show restraint and be as peaceable in the use of the funds as possible. I hope that this ISK can truly be used to gain knowledge that will better you and others in New Eden.


San Fransisco
Red Federation
Posted - 2011.04.29 18:30:00 - [50]
 

Very humbly, I thank you.

Unfortunately I do not have the liberty to break away from my planet-side duties on a reliable basis so I don't know when I will be back in the pod next.

You obviously lead a minimal/monastic existence but if there is ever anything that I can offer you please do not hesitate to ask.

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.29 19:52:00 - [51]
 

This last experience with all the ISK made me re-evaluate things. Having that money was a great burden to me and it occupied too much of my thoughts. I have made a decision. I will keep only enough ISK to use for my calling cards (1 ISK per theft)and I will no longer sell the things I reprocess unless to either replenish my calling card ISK or to buy something to dump in a can available to anyone who wants it. I now have 24.85 ISK and feel much more free to do my work.

Solstice Project
Posted - 2011.04.30 12:30:00 - [52]
 


I like.
Nice read.

Really appreciated.


Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.30 14:42:00 - [53]
 

Humor! Without it our persanalities collapse. It is healthy and unhealthy. Some capsuleers totally lack it. This is sad. Some capsuleers possess it and use it to control and harm others. This also is sad. But... to my delight, I have discovered that many capsuleer possess this quality of humor in a most delightful and healthy manner. Gentle, self-effacing humor that does not denegrate the self, but rather liberates the self from the prison of personal posturing; this is good humor! I have seen some very witty capsuleers use their gift to undermine others who are not quite as intellectually quick. This is a dangerous gift. Please use it with care. Others have a sort of beautiful child-like sense of humor that is humble and earthy. I still smile at the image of farting in a bathtub of caramel.(inside joke from the Piekura system) Yes, I know not everyone appreciates that kind of humor, but sometimes the tension just needs to be broken. Yes, capsuleers can laugh.

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.04.30 14:46:00 - [54]
 

10 million ISK grant available! Because of the generosity of the Solstice project and freedom Inc, I am making available 10 million ISK for a worthy capsuleer who is committed to helping others. Just apply here on this forumn and tell me how you would use the ISK to assist others in need to help develop positive characteristics in others. Don't be shy, please apply!

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.05.01 01:13:00 - [55]
 

Taunt: noun, scornful derision
Taunt: verb, to deride or scornfully challenge
Provoke: verb, to call forth, incite or stimulate to action.
I approach this topic cautiously, lest I be accused of arrogance or presumption, but I may anyway. I have sometimes been accused of taunting others by my thefts. I do not taunt, I provoke. Taunting is always done for self gain to the harm of others. Provoking can be both harmful and helpful. I admit that I attempt to provoke people, but never to taunt them. A wise philosopher once said, "Let us 'provoke' oneanother to love and good deeds." We cant taunt each other to love and good deeds, but we can provoke or call forth good deeds. We can incite good! That is what I try to do.
I fully admit that taunting and provocation can feel exactly the same. Often it does, especially when it catches us off guard. In fact, since taunting is what most capsuleers do to each other in New Eden, it is usually expected. Positive provocation is not expected, especially the kind that I do as a "thief."
My father, who was a wise and good man used a method of discipline with his children that involved provocation. He would announce ahead of time what disciplinary action was to be taken and then he would send us off alone to wait for its execution. The waiting and anticipation was always more severe than the discipline. It was highly effective. Some would percieve this as taunting. It was not! It was provocation for good. It was deep love done unselfishly and with great self-control and wisdom.
Let me provoke you! Let me call you forth to self awareness. I have found what I do to be effective in this matter.

Solstice Project
Posted - 2011.05.01 13:39:00 - [56]
 



... that reads like you got huge scratches on your soul from your father.



Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.05.02 02:09:00 - [57]
 

I catch flies with chopsticks. This is a new metaphor for my work. It was a visiting capsuleer who charged in with much bravado and spite who help to reveal this. The capsuleer made the often repeated remark that killing me was like swatting a fly and that I was but another idiot worthy of his spite. Well, be that as it may, conversation continued with him on the subject of fighting, skill, and power. I suggested that perhaps catching flies was a better use of his skill than swatting flies. Bigger, better ships he said, Better weapons he said. But another capsuleer suggested that more skill was needed to capture flies with chopsticks. Eureka! That's it isn't it. I did not say it. but the fly was the violent capsuleer, the chopsticks were the peaceful minds engaging him. He was captured if but only for the moments of the conversation.
I want to thank my fellow capsuleers in Piekura who brought their chopsticks and joined me in catching this "fly."

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.05.02 20:12:00 - [58]
 

The names I'm called.
One of the disciplines I seek to cultivate is not just a physical pacifism but a verbal pacifism as well. Capsuleers lean toward verbal aggression in many different forms. My work inevitably provokes some of that, so it is expected. I have found that responding with questions and not with aggression has a curious effect. Sometimes it provokes even more aggression. Sometimes it provokes pause and even a softness in otherwise very hard individuals.
When called and "idiot" or "Jack***" or "***hole" etc. Most capsuleer would expect me to strike back. I do not, and this introduces the unexpected. In the unexpected new things are always discovered.

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.05.03 13:25:00 - [59]
 

I am most delighted to report that I have been contacted by an Intaki man who may interested in sponsoring the work through a corporation. What is interesting is that he is not a wealthy capsuleer by New Eden standards, yet he is willing to do this. We are working out the details at present and are not yet sure of the time table.
We are not even sure if anyone will be willing to join such a corp. It would involve sacrifice. The requirements would be strict. We would like to see representatives doing the same work I do in all the four major sovereign territories. Eventually we would like to send workers into low sec and even Jovian space. Watch for new developments in the future. In the mean time, back to work.

Ston Momaki
Caldari
Disciples of Ston
Posted - 2011.05.03 23:31:00 - [60]
 

Outwitted
Capsuleers, some anyway, are quite intelligent and witty. Some are quite able to out wit me verbally. So what do I do when that happens? Admit that I have been outwitted. Continuing to argue when you have lost is a most pitiable thing. I have found that one of the most disarming things you can do to another is to concede. It opens up whole new avenues of kinowledge, especially knowledge about others. A person to whom I have conceded a point is far more likely to share an opinion on life than if "I am always right." Always leaning...


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