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Draco Llasa
Thundercats
Posted - 2011.04.17 03:15:00 - [1]
 

On April 16th at 20:00 CSM 6 held its first of many Fireside chats as outlined in our recent Devblog.
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=897

First off I want to thank the nearly 450 people that joined the voice chat and the 200 people that were interacting in our CSM Public chat channel. We were also joined also by at least 1 CCP dev that participated in the chat also.

Going forward the CSM intends to hold these public Chat/Q & A sessions on a regular basis. While we can’ t say exactly how often that would be, the intent right now is that it will be roughly every 1-2 months or as needed to discuss new CSM focus points.

You can download the audio file here -> http://eve-files.com/dl/241557
File Size is approx 50 MB
Length is about 2 hours
Explicit Language

Below are notes with time indexes for the chat in case you looking for a specific area. It is likely a full text transcript will be made available but that will take some time.

---------Notes------------------
Intro/Speech
00:00 – Intro from the Chairman, review of CSM position, our first focus of time dilation (Link)
02:53 – First topic – Our dev blog which was about how the CSM will work and Time Dilation
09:21 – Review of our plans and agendas for the May CSM Summit
09:45 – Ship Iteration (fixing all the crap with ships and modules
11:12 – Null sec industrialization, farms and fields for 0.0 areas, provide objectives for small gangs
12:25 – POS issues
12:35 – Cap/Super cap balancing
12:55 – Improving CSM / CCP Interaction process
14:11 – Feature Abandonment
14:34 – Risk/Reward across areas of space (high/low/null sec)
14:50 – New Player retention and experience, GM/customer support issues, UI, eve/dust link

Scandals
15:19 – Security issues with the new EVE-Online forums (Link)
16:35 – Issue with the anomaly blog/nerf (Link)

Draco Llasa
Thundercats
Posted - 2011.04.17 03:17:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Draco Llasa on 17/04/2011 03:17:01
Q & A Session
18:19 – Explanation of Time Dilation, The CSM’s first spotlight issue.
22:11 – What is the CSMs stance on minority players
23:54 – Since the 2 main topics spotlighted by CSM 6 are null sec focused, why should empire players care
26:00 – What is the CSMs position on Jump/Titan Bridges nerf.
27: 54 – What is the CSMs interpretation on the problems with Factional Warfare
30:54 – Is anything planned to balance moon income
32:43 – What is the CSMs view on the recent anomaly nerf in 0.0
36:06 – what are the CSMs thoughts on New Player Experience and Captains Quarters
(Captains Quarters fanfest Video)
40:30 – Will CSM have any input on the connection between Dust and Eve
41:19 – CSM5 relation with CCP and the resulting impact to CSM 6
43:55 – Views on value of space in direct relation to security of space
46:05 – How will the CSM deal with the rejection of an idea by CCP
48:05 – Could CSM get CCP to publish overall CCP goals
50:17 – Thoughts on revamping Dreads
51:21 – Will Dust be on the PC?
52:10 – Thoughts on eve sounds and overall sound controls
53:24 – What are the CSMs thoughts on the current 0.0 political situation and should game mechanics be use to control the power blocs.
56:58 – CSMs view on AFK Cloakers
57:58 – CSMs views on expanding null sec
01:00:29 – Is there input on the games current growth and CCPs growth strategies
01:04:25 – Are there any plans to address the discrepancies between the CCP Economist, CCP and how the economy works.
01:07:00 – Will Jove space open up?
01:07:34 – Thoughts on fixing Mining and PVE so it isn’t boring
01:13:30 – Each CSM member identifies their single biggest issue.
01:16:43 – CSMs thoughts on EWAR, elaboration on ship iteration
01:18:56 – CSM each name your favorite Nonni’s sub
01:21:44 – What happen to the industrial expansion.
01:26:43 – What are the actual effects of time dilation on the servers.
01:27:30 – Can we get CCP to document the game more
01:30:02 – Does CCP’s anti RMT work take inflation or economic impact into effect.
(CCP Security Fanfest video which talks about bots)
01:32:27 – what is the best way to support the CSM
01:37:09 – Thoughts on T2 BPOs
01:39:10 – Explanation of the CSMs stakeholder role
01:46:45 – What can we do to improve CCP communication to the community
01:50:30 – How do you feel about incursions.

Marconus Orion
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.04.17 03:45:00 - [3]
 

Why do you list the anomaly change as a scandal?

Lord Zim
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.04.17 07:38:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Lord Zim on 17/04/2011 07:38:16
Originally by: Marconus Orion
Why do you list the anomaly change as a scandal?

Because Hilmar said there would be MORE communication about how things were going to change, and that anom nerf was deployed without communicating to any of the CSMs?

Or wasn't that tinfoilhatty enough for you?

Dirk Decibel
Posted - 2011.04.17 10:54:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Marconus Orion
Why do you list the anomaly change as a scandal?
Because they need something to rage about?

BackStreet Babe
Posted - 2011.04.17 12:02:00 - [6]
 

while it would be nice if the csm could make a difference.

everyone knows ccp disregards the csm as and when it feels like, paying it only lip service in there plans.

the anom changes are a very good example of this disregard

CCP Manifest


C C P
Posted - 2011.04.17 12:04:00 - [7]
 

Temporarily moved to General Discussion for more... discussion...

Thanks to the Council of Stellar Management members for this unique and important initiative. Here's hoping that everyone who spends time in New Eden finds some time to listen to this recording, even if just while mining or en route somewhere or waiting around for your fleet to assemble.

In order to foster wider discussion, we'd love to see this link shared and issues talked about in a wider arena on your corp message boards, the #tweetfleet and #csm6 twitter hashtags and here in this thread. The feedback loops are important for the CSM itself to better represent you, and the more data, obviously, the better.


Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.04.17 14:27:00 - [8]
 

Yes we can give feed back on this threadLaughing

I listened to it live and liked the info it contained. Hope everyone gives it a listen as well.

Draco Llasa
Thundercats
Posted - 2011.04.17 15:32:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Lord Zim
Edited by: Lord Zim on 17/04/2011 07:38:16
Originally by: Marconus Orion
Why do you list the anomaly change as a scandal?

Because Hilmar said there would be MORE communication about how things were going to change, and that anom nerf was deployed without communicating to any of the CSMs?


Yes, this is why it was labeled as a scandal, i believe it was covered in detail during The Mitanni's talk.

Andrea Griffin
Posted - 2011.04.17 16:24:00 - [10]
 

I love the idea and am thankful that there's a recording. It will give me something to do on my nearly three-hour drive to work tomorrow morning. Thanks guys, looking forward to it! Very Happy

Gangster101 PureLove
Posted - 2011.04.17 16:34:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Marconus Orion
Why do you list the anomaly change as a scandal?





^^^

Dirk Decibel
Posted - 2011.04.17 17:32:00 - [12]
 

"Herp derp Industry expanshun??? U HAZ AWESUM ORCA SO SHUT UP!!!!11!".

.....

Widemouth Deepthroat
Posted - 2011.04.17 17:46:00 - [13]
 

Please give a nsfw warning when linking to audio file of Mittani performing auto-fellatio.

Dirk Decibel
Posted - 2011.04.17 18:05:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: CCP Manifest
Temporarily moved to General Discussion for more... discussion...


This is one of the main reasons you can never find CSM info. Cuz it's in the wrong place. A noob who has just figured out that the CSM section on the eve main page is utter crap and that he needs to visit the forums where there is a specific CSM section will now NOT find this thread there....

Being completely oblivious of it's existance, he will prolly never see it....

Lord Zim
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.04.17 18:16:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Draco Llasa
Originally by: Lord Zim
Edited by: Lord Zim on 17/04/2011 07:38:16
Originally by: Marconus Orion
Why do you list the anomaly change as a scandal?

Because Hilmar said there would be MORE communication about how things were going to change, and that anom nerf was deployed without communicating to any of the CSMs?


Yes, this is why it was labeled as a scandal, i believe it was covered in detail during The Mitanni's talk.

It was covered in detail during the mittani's talk (multiple times in fact, I believe). Marconus Orion is just one of Those Guys.

Draco Llasa
Thundercats
Posted - 2011.04.17 18:52:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Widemouth Deepthroat
Please give a nsfw warning when linking to audio file of Mittani performing auto-fellatio.


I did...
File Size is approx 50 MB
Length is about 2 hours
Explicit Language

Draco Llasa
Thundercats
Posted - 2011.04.17 18:55:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Dirk Decibel
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Temporarily moved to General Discussion for more... discussion...


This is one of the main reasons you can never find CSM info. Cuz it's in the wrong place. A noob who has just figured out that the CSM section on the eve main page is utter crap and that he needs to visit the forums where there is a specific CSM section will now NOT find this thread there....

Being completely oblivious of it's existance, he will prolly never see it....

Maybe try checking first...
When CCP Manifest moved the thread he left a reference to it so it actually is posted in the right place, and its posted here too (for a few weeks)
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1498031

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.17 18:57:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Draco Llasa
Originally by: Widemouth Deepthroat
Please give a nsfw warning when linking to audio file of Mittani performing auto-fellatio.


I did...
File Size is approx 50 MB
Length is about 2 hours
Explicit Language


Nah, you misread the trolling Draco. It's not "Hey, there's NSFW language here, mark it appropriately!" it's "Lowell! Mittens is blowing himself, hey, everybody, I'm clever, I'm saying Mittens is blowing himself!"

Draco Llasa
Thundercats
Posted - 2011.04.17 18:59:00 - [19]
 

oh LOL yea i failed.. i was internet reading.. read the first few words and moved on.. oh well..

Eclorc
Posted - 2011.04.17 19:10:00 - [20]
 


Interesting stuff, thanks for posting the audio.

On the "Industrial Expansion", at least some recognition was given that the original plans were shelved in favour of stackless IO, and that the whole idea hasn't been totally forgotten about.

There were so many ideas floating around at the time, largely rumours and false hopes, that some digging around on what the expansion would really have been, and what may be expected in the (hope not too distant) future could be a useful thing for the CSM to ask CCP about, if only to manage expectations out here, and get you guys clued up on what was shoved under the carpet back then.


Dalketh
Posted - 2011.04.17 19:18:00 - [21]
 

Well this hardly encourages people to post to the CSM, or instills confidence that they will be listened to.

Originally by: Draco Llasa
oh LOL yea i failed.. i was internet reading.. read the first few words and moved on.. oh well..

Agent Kyoo
Posted - 2011.04.17 19:19:00 - [22]
 

Yes, please give the leaders of certain alliances a heads up on all game changes so they can use them to their advantage in game. If CCP did have to run all game changes by the CSM first, I think it should only be fair that the rest of the EVE player base have an opportunity to see the proposed changes at the same time.

BugraT WarheaD
Astromechanica Federatis
Posted - 2011.04.17 19:27:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: BugraT WarheaD on 17/04/2011 19:34:44
Excellent topic, i'm downloading the MP3 right now. Could we hope a total debriefing for those who, like me, aren't amazing english-spoken people ? :)

Edit ---


Wow ... Man you've convince me ... CSM6 rocks !

Doggsbody
Lame Duck Logistics
Posted - 2011.04.17 19:43:00 - [24]
 

What the hell was that?! No one apart from Mittani was allowed to speak?!

The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.04.17 20:50:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Doggsbody
What the hell was that?! No one apart from Mittani was allowed to speak?!



i threatened to strangle anyone who spoke out against me - through the internet.


Lord Zim
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.04.17 20:53:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Agent Kyoo
Yes, please give the leaders of certain alliances a heads up on all game changes so they can use them to their advantage in game. If CCP did have to run all game changes by the CSM first, I think it should only be fair that the rest of the EVE player base have an opportunity to see the proposed changes at the same time.

Pretty sure there'll be a grace period between when the changes are published till they go live.

I strongly doubt you're going to get much more transparency than that, certainly not so far as to seeing each and every draft of every proposal that CCP employees think up.

Originally by: Doggsbody
What the hell was that?! No one apart from Mittani was allowed to speak?!

This was covered in the session, at least once.

Tetragammatron Prime
Posted - 2011.04.17 20:56:00 - [27]
 

No wonder CCP doesn't take the CSM seriously when the chairman starts insulting the intelligence of anyone who doesn't ask a patsy question.

SkinSin
Posted - 2011.04.17 21:22:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: SkinSin on 17/04/2011 21:23:24
so... any plans to make this more accessible to those of us that have hearing problems... And any idea roughly how long "some time" may be??

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.17 21:35:00 - [29]
 

After I'm done with some more certification exams that end on Wednesday, I will happily transcribe the audio for five billion ISK.

Doggsbody
Lame Duck Logistics
Posted - 2011.04.17 21:40:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Lord Zim

Originally by: Doggsbody
What the hell was that?! No one apart from Mittani was allowed to speak?!

This was covered in the session, at least once.


Um, no. A paper thin 'reason' was given, but the fact that even when Mittens was asked questions about things he admitted to knowing nothing about he didn't even think to hand it over to one of the others.

Why? Doesn't he trust the other candidates to speak sensibly? He is only one voice on the CSM after all.




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