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WhyTry1
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.04.16 09:55:00 - [1]
 

I think we should enforce a new rule now we have new forums

Post with your main only!

The amount of trolls, false references, false supports, and people hinding behind alts to basically act like idiots is a bit silly now.the forums over the past few years especially from nullsec alliances have turned to sh*t.

CCP please enforce a post with your main only rule in the forums to stop all this.
People will think twice before posting!


Btw posted with my main!

People will think twice


Dirk Decibel
Posted - 2011.04.16 10:50:00 - [2]
 

And who of my 9 chars on my 3 accounts should I consider my 'main'?Question

Also: poasting with an alt just to annoy OP. Cool

WhyTry1
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.04.16 10:58:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Dirk Decibel
And who of my 9 chars on my 3 accounts should I consider my 'main'?Question

Also: poasting with an alt just to annoy OP. Cool


Ah i had a feeling that would be asked, I was going to put it in the main post.

Well there is an option is settings called 'Default Character'. However at the moment it can be changed. So 2 options

1) Once default has been selected it cannot be unselected.
2) The character with the most skillpoints on an account, is classed as the main account. Now yes, there could be issues with this, because another alt on the account, could surpass your main account. Im not sure how many times this would occur to be significant, because usually people who want a high sp alt usually have a second account, rather than an alt on the same account.

You cant stop people have 3 accounts with 3 mains, and you couldnt really enforce a linked multiple accounts system, people just wouldnt do it. So yes if you have 3 accounts then youll have 3 mains.

But it would still significantly make a difference to my initial points instead of allowing you to post with 9 characters! Which to me is just silly.

Anna Lifera
6....
HAWK Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.16 14:27:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Anna Lifera on 16/04/2011 14:27:31
supported.

alt posting = more risk-aversion under anonymity

Naomi Knight
Amarr
Posted - 2011.04.16 14:36:00 - [5]
 

better : 1 person ->1 account , remove multi acc now
also 1 acc -> 1 char , this should work :P

Elena Stormbringer
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.04.16 15:43:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Naomi Knight
better : 1 person ->1 account , remove multi acc now
also 1 acc -> 1 char , this should work :P


Then CCP wouldn't have all the Russian botters paying subscription fees!?

Naomi Knight
Amarr
Posted - 2011.04.16 16:42:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Elena Stormbringer
Originally by: Naomi Knight
better : 1 person ->1 account , remove multi acc now
also 1 acc -> 1 char , this should work :P


Then CCP wouldn't have all the Russian botters paying subscription fees!?

should i have to care ?

Elena Stormbringer
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.04.16 17:09:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Naomi Knight
Originally by: Elena Stormbringer
Originally by: Naomi Knight
better : 1 person ->1 account , remove multi acc now
also 1 acc -> 1 char , this should work :P


Then CCP wouldn't have all the Russian botters paying subscription fees!?

should i have to care ?


CCP does!? ):

Arnakoz
Posted - 2011.04.16 17:41:00 - [9]
 

no.

subversion and countering it is too great a part of this game.

Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
Posted - 2011.04.16 19:42:00 - [10]
 

How insulting.... and pathetic... that an alt... of an NPC'd corp... would propose a "post with your main only" forum rule.


Can you say hypocrite?

You people really need to get out more...

Not supporting.

PS: And the ironic thing is... I DO post with my main...

WhyTry1
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.04.16 21:00:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Drake Draconis
How insulting.... and pathetic... that an alt... of an NPC'd corp... would propose a "post with your main only" forum rule.


Can you say hypocrite?

You people really need to get out more...

Not supporting.

PS: And the ironic thing is... I DO post with my main...


Are you an idiot? Just because my main is in a NPC corp, means its an alt. Seriously you are an Idiot...want my api? so you can look like a bigger dumbass?

Corina's Bodyguard
Posted - 2011.04.16 22:04:00 - [12]
 

I see no reason for this. It won't change the trolling.

Alt posting allows for a person who may have unfavorable opinions to post without risk to their alliance.

Alt posting allows you to post without people knowing your main (and thus knowing which pilot to hunt down and pod over and over).

Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
Posted - 2011.04.17 01:05:00 - [13]
 

Lets see... 2 Man Corp recently you left... never been in any major corporations... hardly any history.


Post with your main : O P

That's all I can say to that.

Talas Dir
Minmatar
The Unknown Bar and Pub
Posted - 2011.04.17 08:50:00 - [14]
 

you realise that you posted the op with a character that is in ministry of war, right?

post with your main.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.04.17 08:55:00 - [15]
 

Completely unenforceable.

CommmanderInChief
Posted - 2011.04.17 10:50:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: CommmanderInChief on 17/04/2011 10:53:06
Originally by: Drake Draconis
Lets see... 2 Man Corp recently you left... never been in any major corporations... hardly any history.


Post with your main : O P

That's all I can say to that.


Lol I think this what the op meant by trolls and idiots...

Here is one right here...

In defence of the Op you tried to state that he was alt purely cos he was in a npc Corp.
People leave corps then join npc, he may not want to be in a player Corp.

To be honest it's ppl like you who we need to get off the forums, angry teenagers with attitude.

But personally signed, will it happen? Tbh CCP don't seem
To care about the trash posting that's why ppl use alternatives, and why ppl troll because CCP allows it. Shame really. As a company CCP lacks any morality, but that comes from
The top mr CCP CEO.

PS. the only people who wouldn't support this are the trolls and douches and ain't that the truth.

Aineko Macx
Posted - 2011.04.17 11:36:00 - [17]
 

CAOD is the perfect example that prohibiting neutral alt posting does not magically make the forums any less horrible.

Bhattran
Posted - 2011.04.17 14:07:00 - [18]
 

No, here's why.

Originally by: Bhattran
Not everyone is in a large or even medium sized corporation, for any number of reasons, and might actually live with other players/corporations who look for people to pester. Going unnoticed is how those players avoid problems from EVE's more 'special' type of player. Being in that kind of situation means they are easy targets if picked on, unlike those who might enjoy having plenty of corporation members to back them up if another corporation looked to bother them, who might be out in 00 where they are surrounded by allies or the same enemies that were always there, or even in WH/lowsec. Someone being a **** who disagrees with that kind of player with allies/isolation and looking to mess with them has little effect on their gameplay, assuming the person looking to pester people even disagreed with that type of player in the first place.

For the remaining people without numbers/isolation disagreeing with that type of person who by their choices might feel strongly about HTFU, EVE=PVP, and other mantras about bashing someone down to hump them for the lulz, well that player can affect their gameplay for voicing their concerns/disagreement. I don't think people who disagree with those types of players should need to 'out' their mains, or form a corporation if they aren't in a PC, just to comment/discuss ideas about screwing everyone who doesn't agree with a particular way to play the game or a change to force others to play the game a certain way.

Some corporations might also not want their members to be getting into discussions about gameplay/mechanics because that too can bring unwanted attention on the corporation and members. Many corporations expect a certain conduct from players, such as no smack talk, well with this idea expect to see no posting on the forums from some of them too.

I know plenty simply don't care because they welcome someone trying to mess with them and would be all too happy to have the people who disagree with them just shut up rather than deal with any blowback for telling them how wrong/selfish/etc they or their ideas are that boost their gameplay and nerf others.

That people do think that this is a good idea is pathetic all in the lame attempt to say it will cut down on trolling/useless topics? Trolling happens by a certain type of person who arguably has a certain kind of play style, useless topics are posted by a larger group but probably more so by newer players who don't know enough about the game/AH/etc, neither of which IMO will get reduced by much with the proposed change.


http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1396771&page=1#24

This is the idea you want and should be championing as it addresses your issues. *IF* CCP web team can manage to implement the many, many good ideas they through in the trash when they dumped the first round of testing like the ignore/hide feature you'd be set.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1407532&page=1#24

Emperor Salazar
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.04.17 15:53:00 - [19]
 

Real ID!

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2011.04.17 18:36:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Emperor Salazar
Real ID!


Evil or Very Mad Don't even joke about that.

@OP The amount of **** poasting won't be affected by your proposal and there are legitimate reasons for alt posting. Mainly that people want to discuss issues instead of having to suffer trolling and flaming because of their main's affiliations, and they don't want to suffer in/out of game consequenses for just posting on the forum.

Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
Posted - 2011.04.17 18:49:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Drake Draconis on 17/04/2011 18:49:45
Post with your main. (at CnC)

Oh and u mad?


Its funny... supporters are actually alt posters... hilarity.

It might help your cases better if you post with your mains.

Funny enough... I'd support it too... but this whole proposal is nothing more than one big fat troll.

WhyTry1
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.04.17 20:03:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: WhyTry1 on 17/04/2011 20:06:50

Originally by: Drake Draconis
Edited by: Drake Draconis on 17/04/2011 18:49:45
Post with your main. (at CnC)

Oh and u mad?


Its funny... supporters are actually alt posters... hilarity.

It might help your cases better if you post with your mains.

Funny enough... I'd support it too... but this whole proposal is nothing more than one big fat troll.


you still looking like a 13 yr old teenager..keep saying the post with your mains..even tho this is.. you still look stupid...and the more you keep trolling the same old BS the more stupid and desperate to be listened to your looking..

oh and your boring..really you are....Zzzzz ugh

Now run along this is adult talk..i think you need to ask mummy for a bed time story before you go to sleep, seeing you crave so much attention...

The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.04.17 20:09:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Aineko Macx
CAOD is the perfect example that prohibiting neutral alt posting does not magically make the forums any less horrible.


yep

silly proposal over a minor issue.

WhyTry1
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.04.17 20:33:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Aineko Macx
CAOD is the perfect example that prohibiting neutral alt posting does not magically make the forums any less horrible.


yep

silly proposal over a minor issue.


I dont feel its a minor issue at all. its not just about the crap poasting at all. Its about false supports, taking example about someone with 9 alts can make 9 supports, is that right?
Some with 9 alts can make 9 false references on a service thread. Oh i forgot scamming is allowed! Rolling Eyes

I guess by some of the posts and mittens quote, pretty much shows the state of these forums and the dont give a **** attitude...and the absolute idiots that play this game.. thats why it will stay the same old crap with the same old players. who would want to come into a community with 99.9% douches? whats new eh..


Bhattran
Posted - 2011.04.17 21:56:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: WhyTry1
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Aineko Macx
CAOD is the perfect example that prohibiting neutral alt posting does not magically make the forums any less horrible.


yep

silly proposal over a minor issue.


I dont feel its a minor issue at all. its not just about the crap poasting at all. Its about false supports, taking example about someone with 9 alts can make 9 supports, is that right?
Some with 9 alts can make 9 false references on a service thread. Oh i forgot scamming is allowed! Rolling Eyes

I guess by some of the posts and mittens quote, pretty much shows the state of these forums and the dont give a **** attitude...and the absolute idiots that play this game.. thats why it will stay the same old crap with the same old players. who would want to come into a community with 99.9% douches? whats new eh..




You should listen to the CSM fireside chat where Mittani pretty much says they (current CSM) aren't going to bother with the AH anymore in favor of issues/features/etc that they actually feel CCP will do to show/illustrate CSM 'gets things done'. I'm fairly sure if something important enough or interesting to their view is put up in AH they'd still look at maybe finding out CCP's stance on it but in essence the votes won't matter and really they never did. CSM took up issues they believed in regardless of the votes, and in doing that all it meant was that all the CSM would weigh in on the issue and ONLY IF they reached a majority vote would bother bringing up the issue with CCP who then still have the option of not doing it, saying it is too hard, etc and so on.

TLDR: The number of upvotes means nothing as no number of upvotes means stuff happens, look at the excellence thread.


Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.04.17 22:02:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: WhyTry1
I dont feel its a minor issue at all. its not just about the crap poasting at all. Its about false supports, taking example about someone with 9 alts can make 9 supports, is that right?
Some with 9 alts can make 9 false references on a service thread. Oh i forgot scamming is allowed! Rolling Eyes
I guess by some of the posts and mittens quote, pretty much shows the state of these forums and the dont give a **** attitude...and the absolute idiots that play this game.. thats why it will stay the same old crap with the same old players. who would want to come into a community with 99.9% douches? whats new eh..

Duuuuuuuuuuuude...
NOBODY is saying that it isn't a problem, just that your proposed solution WOULD DO NO BIG DEAL to alleviate the problem.

Other than the jokingly proposed RealID, there would be no REALISTIC way of enforcing it, and even RealID would not be a completely fool-proof solution.

You have the problem of first selecting which character out of 3 on the account is the main. You say that "just pick the one with most SP". Well, what about people where they do have more than one big SP character on an account, and the "main" is actually the second highest SP count one ?
Besides, even if you would pick the right character most of the time, it would still do nothing about alt accounts.
So how exactly do you propose to tackle the issue of multiple accounts ? It's not like IP identification would do much good, with a large portion of the playerbase playing from dynamic IPs or from behind a NAT/firewall. You'd have to get EXTREMELY intrusive to even begin to detect which account belongs to which real person, and then you have the issue of people that come over their friend's house and log into EVE (because, hey, they both play EVE)... will you now flag one person's main as the other's alt ?!?
Also, remember just how upset you were when somebody "hinted" that YOU might be an alt just because you're in a NPC corporation... how do you think people would react all of a sudden when the character they feel IS their main is "caught" by your system and branded an alt ?!?

LIKE I SAID, YOUR PROPOSED SOLUTION IS BUNK.
The fact that the problem might be real is completely irrelevant.
As long as you propose an inherently UNENFORCEABLE measure, there's no point in discussing it much further.

Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
Tragedy.
Posted - 2011.04.17 23:29:00 - [27]
 

I can't support this...not that I wouldn't love to have alts stop posting but it just wouldn't work. If I wanted I could just post from a character on my second account...or third...or in some peoples cases the fourth, fifth, sixth and so on.

Besides that...who cares?

Shawna Gray
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.17 23:56:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: WhyTry1


I guess by some of the posts and mittens quote, pretty much shows the state of these forums and the dont give a **** attitude...and the absolute idiots that play this game.. thats why it will stay the same old crap with the same old players. who would want to come into a community with 99.9% douches? whats new eh..




Who cares? Welcome to the internet. You sound like you belong in the idiots that play this game group.

Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
Posted - 2011.04.18 03:20:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: WhyTry1
Edited by: WhyTry1 on 17/04/2011 20:06:50

Originally by: Drake Draconis
Edited by: Drake Draconis on 17/04/2011 18:49:45
Post with your main. (at CnC)

Oh and u mad?


Its funny... supporters are actually alt posters... hilarity.

It might help your cases better if you post with your mains.

Funny enough... I'd support it too... but this whole proposal is nothing more than one big fat troll.


you still looking like a 13 yr old teenager..keep saying the post with your mains..even tho this is.. you still look stupid...and the more you keep trolling the same old BS the more stupid and desperate to be listened to your looking..

oh and your boring..really you are....Zzzzz ugh

Now run along this is adult talk..i think you need to ask mummy for a bed time story before you go to sleep, seeing you crave so much attention...



Seriously? What are you? the playground bully?
Grow up.... your just digging yourself a bigger hole.

No bigger than your mouth no less.

I even agree with the goon... shocker of all shockers.

>.<;

Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.18 07:43:00 - [30]
 

Sooo……little bit of drama here. What do you think the chances are that the OP is yanking your chains?


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