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Lemmy Adam
Caldari
Rapid Dominance
Lynx Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.13 10:36:00 - [1]
 

I just resubbed after a few years off to see this skill has been meddled with into uselessness. I would like my 1.2m skillpoints refunded plz kthx.YARRRR!!

Chakarr
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2011.04.13 12:09:00 - [2]
 

Cool story bro Wink

Can i haz your stuff?

Lost Greybeard
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.13 12:58:00 - [3]
 

Cutting your scan time in half doesn't seem useful to you?

Someone hasn't learned that adding probes to your overview for d-scan is now trivial.

Dorian Wylde
Posted - 2011.04.13 15:26:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Lost Greybeard
Cutting your scan time in half doesn't seem useful to you?

Someone hasn't learned that adding probes to your overview for d-scan is now trivial.


Plenty of people enjoy wasting their time, don't hate.

lordlulzs
Posted - 2011.04.13 18:11:00 - [5]
 

Don't worry bro, there are things far worse you coulda wasted your time on.

Like
marauders
refining
PI
Dreadnoughts
titans
hybrids

you get the idea.

Mr LaForge
Posted - 2011.04.13 20:34:00 - [6]
 

What was the old bonus?

BlackSparrowHawk
Posted - 2011.04.13 20:38:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: lordlulzs
Don't worry bro, there are things far worse you coulda wasted your time on. Like marauders refining PI Dreadnoughts titans hybrids you get the idea.
PI is a waste of time? LOoooL! You keep thinking that and stick to the most 'dumb' part of eve. I make 1.2 bil a month doing PI in wormhole with all three of my chracters. Whats more i only log on them once a day for 15 mins. Passive income to its extreme!

RavenPaine
Posted - 2011.04.13 20:41:00 - [8]
 

Cut scan time in half. Recall probes. Win.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.04.13 21:03:00 - [9]
 

Did you benefit from the skill?

If yes, then you got what you wanted stop complaining.
If no, then why on earth did you train it to begin with?

These days, you get a different benefit, and if you had started today, you might not train it. But here's the good news: today, you don't have to train it, so you're not losing out on anything.

lordlulzs
Posted - 2011.04.14 03:59:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: BlackSparrowHawk
Originally by: lordlulzs
Don't worry bro, there are things far worse you coulda wasted your time on.

Like
marauders
refining
PI
Dreadnoughts
titans
hybrids

you get the idea.


PI is a waste of time? LOoooL! You keep thinking that and stick to the most 'dumb' part of eve. I make 1.2 bil a month doing PI in wormhole with all three of my chracters. Whats more i only log on them once a day for 15 mins. Passive income to its extreme!


Lol Scrub, they own you so hard. Smile

Mona X
Caldari
Missions Mining and Mayhem
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.04.14 15:11:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: lordlulzs
Don't worry bro, there are things far worse you coulda wasted your time on.

Like
marauders
refining
PI
Dreadnoughts
hybrids

you get the idea.


FFFFFFFUUUUUUUU

Lemmy Adam
Caldari
Rapid Dominance
Lynx Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.14 20:38:00 - [12]
 

When I trained it, scan time took 10 minutes, now it takes a few seconds.. the only time the difference of a half a second would truly matter is in PVP... and frankly, I think putting 1.2M SP into something else (other than a half second scan time reduction) would prove a more viable solution for PVP.

Sure, there are other "useless skills" like.. planetary interaction you say? except people still make 1.2B isk per day passively on PI... let's see, marauders? have you seen the paladin? uh... the only skills I think match Astrometric Acquisition are Mobile Refiner Operation and the other "collector's skills"...

the difference? those skills were never useful...

and to the people who say I got my use out of it, you got your use out of eve, no hard feelings if they wipe and start over tomorrow, right bro ?

Amaya Hamasaki
Gallente
Matatabi Kenkyokaihatsu Ltd.
Posted - 2011.04.14 21:09:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Lemmy Adam
When I trained it, scan time took 10 minutes, now it takes a few seconds.. the only time the difference of a half a second would truly matter is in PVP... and frankly, I think putting 1.2M SP into something else (other than a half second scan time reduction) would prove a more viable solution for PVP.


You are saving a bit more than half a second - I guess about 2 or 3 per scan - but this just would be nitpicking.
What you should not forget is that scanning now still takes some time overall as you have to actually pin down those anomalies/mission runners/wormholes by scanning several times and close in on the target with your probes.
Thus, while the time reduction per scan is quite meager compared to the old probing system, it still has some affect and - as you said - can be especially useful in PvP situations.

But after all you just should carry on and live with it as EVE changes all the time and what was great last month can be quite lousy now (as we have seen with several different nerfs or buffs in the past). We all have our share on SP that were more useful to us in the past Laughing

You said that you were away from EVE for some years. You lost out on several tens of millions of SP (~20 million per year) and now you are complaining about 1.2 million SP you invested and actually used back then? Wink

Lemmy Adam
Caldari
Rapid Dominance
Lynx Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.14 22:08:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Amaya Hamasaki


You are saving a bit more than half a second - I guess about 2 or 3 per scan - but this just would be nitpicking.
What you should not forget is that scanning now still takes some time overall as you have to actually pin down those anomalies/mission runners/wormholes by scanning several times and close in on the target with your probes.
Thus, while the time reduction per scan is quite meager compared to the old probing system, it still has some affect and - as you said - can be especially useful in PvP situations.


I really could care less about a couple of seconds.. probing wormholes or anomalies.. I suppose PVP is another story, but I hate PVP probing, I suppose that it is.. useful? in that regard? but.. ok... so whatever...

Originally by: Amaya Hamasaki


But after all you just should carry on and live with it as EVE changes all the time and what was great last month can be quite lousy now (as we have seen with several different nerfs or buffs in the past). We all have our share on SP that were more useful to us in the past Laughing

You said that you were away from EVE for some years. You lost out on several tens of millions of SP (~20 million per year) and now you are complaining about 1.2 million SP you invested and actually used back then? Wink


Yeah, at least I didn't train deadnaughts (oh wait.. /facepalm) and the SP I missed while not paying for server access is pretty fair, ya gotta pay to play... so yeah, I just don't like having a very useful skill nerfed into uselessness.. but since 1 second (as opposed to 5 minutes) of scan time is useful in a very specific set of circumstances, all is forgiven... (just like torpedoes.. oh wait.. /facepalm again)

Fulbert
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.17 22:35:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Fulbert on 17/04/2011 22:36:09
Edited by: Fulbert on 17/04/2011 22:35:36
Originally by: Lemmy Adam
I just resubbed after a few years off to see this skill has been meddled with into uselessness. I would like my 1.2m skillpoints refunded plz kthx.YARRRR!!


Especially since scanning skills were inverted when the new scanning system has been implemented.
http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?patchlogID=183

"# The Signal Acquisition skill is now called Astrometric Triangulation and gives a strength bonus.
# The Astrometric Triangulation skill is now called Astrometric Acquisition and gives a scan time bonus.
# The Astrometrics skill gives you +1 probes active per level, starting with 4 at level 1.


Conclusion : you trained Astronomic Triangulation V (pre-Apoc version), which was a useless skill, and you got Astrometric Acquisition V (post-Apoc), which is still useless.
Nice trolling attempt, by the way.

Holdout
Posted - 2011.04.20 19:05:00 - [16]
 

I'm with OP on this one. That skill is nearly useless. Compared to all the other places you could put that 1.2million SP, this has to be about the lowest bang for your buck. Train it to 4, fine. Train it to 5? Lunacy. What a waste.


 

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