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Tasha Voronina
Caldari
Caldari Navy Reserve Force
Posted - 2011.04.10 09:06:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Guilliman R


Hell yes. CCP is starting to look like EA before their image review. Raping everything they get their hands on for quick return.

I've got myself a deadline; I'll wait till summer (august) and if by then the most glaring issues aren't solved (hybrids, gallente, OP 1400's (seriously, arty abbadons!???), Stupid OP Supers that make all caps obsolete. Industry changes (UI..)) I'll just find a new game to play, or focus more on studying physics. I can only wait so long.

I really hate EA for ruining so many cool universes, now ccp is doing the same thing. It's the exact same path they're taking.




A bit frightening how much this represents my own view, really.

Let's just hope that after the n-th time, they listen. Statistics/past experience suggest otherwise, but here's to that thing, hope. Neutral

Idami Raptor
Gallente
E.A.D Alliance
Omega Vector
Posted - 2011.04.10 09:30:00 - [62]
 

Edited by: Idami Raptor on 10/04/2011 09:30:08
Originally by: Tasha Voronina
Originally by: Guilliman R


Hell yes. CCP is starting to look like EA before their image review. Raping everything they get their hands on for quick return.

I've got myself a deadline; I'll wait till summer (august) and if by then the most glaring issues aren't solved (hybrids, gallente, OP 1400's (seriously, arty abbadons!???), Stupid OP Supers that make all caps obsolete. Industry changes (UI..)) I'll just find a new game to play, or focus more on studying physics. I can only wait so long.

I really hate EA for ruining so many cool universes, now ccp is doing the same thing. It's the exact same path they're taking.




A bit frightening how much this represents my own view, really.

Let's just hope that after the n-th time, they listen. Statistics/past experience suggest otherwise, but here's to that thing, hope. Neutral


Depends on how far up the chain it is. If it's a guy somewhere in the middle sooner or later he won't be able to scapegoat or spin the numbers or anything, and it'll come back to him.

If it's someone at the top...it might come back to them only in the form of the company going down in flames.

Trying to get an exec like that to see reason is much like trying to reason with a conspiracy theorist. They're so dead on certain that they're right that they just discount anything you say that contradicts them.

Dhaaran
Posted - 2011.04.10 09:36:00 - [63]
 

i kind of doubt it is related to the new share owners as posted above - afterall those were issued to fund dust514 (along with lots of money from eve ...) - meaning someone was already losing touch to the player base.
anyway, i support akitas proposal.

Ed Rush
Erasers inc.
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2011.04.10 09:38:00 - [64]
 

Edited by: Ed Rush on 10/04/2011 09:42:34
Originally by: Akita T

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.


statistics can be fooled. for example, if they count in the accounts that have received some kind of free gametime. how many would have just clicked on a email to reactivate for free?

plus.. do they count in the trial accounts which playtime last 14days?

Bhattran
Posted - 2011.04.10 09:59:00 - [65]
 

Supported for the brief time CCP might listen before reverting back to stupid business logic that ignores common sense about this basic idea.

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
Posted - 2011.04.10 10:09:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Akita T
TO SUPPORT THIS THREAD'S IDEA, CLICK THE "Check here if you want to give your support to the idea/discussion going on" CHECKBOX UNDER YOUR POST TEXT INPUT BOX.
It's right below "Check here to preview your post" and right below the character selection and "Post Reply" button.

If you forgot to do it at first, you can edit your post to select that too.



Not supported as your ridiculous arrogance is too overbearing Rolling Eyes

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2011.04.10 10:47:00 - [67]
 

Can't do anything but support this. Any feature, new or old, is pretty worthless if it isn't good enough or doesn't work properly. It also greatly decreases the players enjoyment of the game, makes them look for other things to do and diminshes their trust in CCP's capability to deliver on any future feature/iteration of an old feature.

You aren't developing games in a void. You can either deliver competative features and gameplay experiences or you're going to get stomped on by the competition. CCP's attitude of "It doesn't matter if it's crap now, we can iterate on it later" is damaging the game. They simply don't ever iterate or develop their features to full potential. They do some basic bug fixing and usability tweaks and call it a day and move on to develop the next half finished feature. You're left with a game where there are tons of things to do, but everything is a bit lackluster, unbalanced and under developed or has obvious content holes.

Lately there have been signs that all of this might be changing, but the new forum fiasco shows that it might have been just a reaction to the complaints and subscription losses of last year instead of an actual change in development philosphy and thinking in CCP leadership.

Oriana Mortuney
Posted - 2011.04.10 11:05:00 - [68]
 

Edited by: Oriana Mortuney on 10/04/2011 11:05:04
Supported, new forums were a joke, one that seems to be old at CCP.

Emperor Ryan
Amarr
The Illuminatii
Mildly Intoxicated
Posted - 2011.04.10 11:25:00 - [69]
 

Agreed, Also the new forums, Are they kidding, has issues with Firefox (eve gate does as a whole) And the new forums were very unsafe in the basic writing up of them and barley any smartphone capability? really?

Nika Dekaia
Posted - 2011.04.10 11:26:00 - [70]
 

And there I was thinking CCP learned from the "18 months" communication fail".

Tsubutai
The Tuskers
Posted - 2011.04.10 11:27:00 - [71]
 

.

Phocas Lebournes
Thundercats
B O R G
Posted - 2011.04.10 11:31:00 - [72]
 

Hell yeah! Thumbs up!

El Lion
Posted - 2011.04.10 11:35:00 - [73]
 

+1

Akiba Penrose
The Praxis Initiative
Posted - 2011.04.10 11:38:00 - [74]
 

Exclamation

Meridith Akesia
Stimulus
Posted - 2011.04.10 11:48:00 - [75]
 

Akita T makes a post. Incoming threadnaught.

Dogo Duma
Posted - 2011.04.10 11:49:00 - [76]
 

ETA until the next discrete offer from EA?

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.04.10 11:49:00 - [77]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 10/04/2011 11:50:49
Originally by: Ed Rush
Originally by: Akita T
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7402/evesubscribers.jpg

statistics can be fooled. for example, if they count in the accounts that have received some kind of free gametime. how many would have just clicked on a email to reactivate for free?
plus.. do they count in the trial accounts which playtime last 14days?

That graph allegedly contains only paid-for active subs. Trial accounts and expired accounts not counted.
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Here's my MS Paint approximation about the next months in EvE's subscriptions market, even if CCP changed their ways and approach to quality (players discontent inertia):

http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/2381/futuresubsu.jpg

As you can see the trend is exhausting (increasing volatility on the upper graph).
The yellow lines show the slope changes in the "123 zig zag", the cyan are some areas of support or resistance.
and getting more "whipsawing" which is another sign of trend exhaustion.

This trend will peak either at the current high or a next lower high (not drawn) then there will be a sharp drop down to the lower support.
It will break because we will be in summer (low subs period of the year) and an even sharper drop will happen.

After a rebounce (typical bottom W formation), IF CCP changed their ways, they will slowly begin rising up (red line).
If they stay as is, we'll see a further drop (blue line) to dynamic support and then who knows.

Shocked
I'm almost hoping you're not right...
Shocked

Kyo Haku
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
Posted - 2011.04.10 11:57:00 - [78]
 

Supported. I came to this game because it was far more "finished" and stable than any MMO I've played before. I don't want it to lose that.

Ed Rush
Erasers inc.
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2011.04.10 11:59:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 10/04/2011 11:50:49
Originally by: Ed Rush
Originally by: Akita T
Fancy graph

blab ablablaa

That graph allegedly contains only paid-for active subs. Trial accounts and expired accounts not counted.



allegedly

:)

Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2011.04.10 12:04:00 - [80]
 

Free Cat!

Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
Posted - 2011.04.10 12:06:00 - [81]
 

I support the idea in OP. I don't have much else to say, other than that I was (unfortunately) correct about them forcing us out of our pods, which I don't like. Not at all.

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2011.04.10 12:14:00 - [82]
 

Yes, very much agreed.


CruxArc
Minmatar
Black Souls Industries

Posted - 2011.04.10 12:17:00 - [83]
 

Edited by: CruxArc on 10/04/2011 12:19:11
Agree.

Feone
Posted - 2011.04.10 12:17:00 - [84]
 

CCP will you ever learn, or maybe it is the players that should learn and just dump you once and for all.

EnderCapitalG
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.04.10 12:23:00 - [85]
 

I, too, am gay.

Anddeh McNab
Cadre Assault Force
Posted - 2011.04.10 12:24:00 - [86]
 

I find myself in the unfortunate position of agreeing with the mass of idiots. I've defended alot of CCP's decisions, like the whole 18 month thing, but for the sake of us all please do some security checking next time.

Shar Tegral
Posted - 2011.04.10 12:25:00 - [87]
 


Turix
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.04.10 12:28:00 - [88]
 

Its sad when a developer doesn't understand what their game is about; stop taking us in the wrong directly and doing it in the wrong way. Please!

Slade Hoo
Amarr
Retired Gunslingers
Posted - 2011.04.10 12:33:00 - [89]
 

Supporting a great insight!

Robdon
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.04.10 12:34:00 - [90]
 

Agreed.

Unfortunately though, it seems to be a growing trend that companies don't listen to their customers, or even their lower ranking staff members, and just seem to blindly carry on with their 'management' view of the world :(


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