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Calathea Sata
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:46:00 - [1]
 

Months ago I thought I have met the best MMO out there, and there is the best company running it.

Weeks later I've noticed the fail of their new releases. I thought it might be the only case.

Time goes on.





Same **** happened again and again and again. CCP never releases finished products.
Everything is broken, often very poorly patched or fixed.

Again and again.

Again and again.





Again and again. My faith in CCP keeps falling and falling. I wanted to like you, CCP, but you are too much of a failed messanger that only lives on the dreams and hopes people have in you. You lie, you create fancy drawings and writings and shoot amazing videos about your game. But time and time again, you fail to deliver the promises and the dreams and the fulfilments that we are all hooked on to EVE in the first place.

This time you have struck yet another missile of "I am fail" into my face.

EVE can potentially be a good game. But CCP never changes.

Excellence. Deliverance. All are lies.





Time and time again.

Again and again.





Now I know that it is all just a neverending lie. I think it is time to ditch the boat before my broken heart can decompose any further.

Good bye CCP.

sableye
principle of motion
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:47:00 - [2]
 

can I have your stuff

Arec Bardwin
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:47:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Arec Bardwin on 09/04/2011 23:47:43
Can I have your stuff?
DAMN too late Evil or Very Mad

Yuki Kulotsuki
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:48:00 - [4]
 

Can I have your likes?

CCP Navigator


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:49:00 - [5]
 

Moved from General Discussion to OOPE.

So sorry to see you leave.

Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:49:00 - [6]
 

I would ask for your stuffs, but some1 already did on the other forums thread... so... did he get em or got anything left to give ?-)

Atedar Kerane
Silentium Mortalitas
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:49:00 - [7]
 

Can I have your tears?

ViIe Plague
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:49:00 - [8]
 

No one will miss "begar". Can i have your stuff?

Calathea Sata
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:50:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Grey Stormshadow
I would ask for your stuffs, but some1 already did on the other forums thread... so... did he get em or got anything left to give ?-)


There is only one way for you to find out: ask in this thread.

Also there was a really well written reply back in the old new forums I would like to post here as well, however I don't have it saved.

Aeronwen Carys
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:51:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: CCP Navigator
Moved from General Discussion to OOPE.

So sorry to see you leave.


Quoting for excellent example of sarcasm. Love ya Navigator Cool And to the OP, I doubt you will be missed all that much, and its a shame you aren't finding CCP at their best at the moment. This thread is now about pancakes and their value in a modern society.

Meldorn Vaash
Caldari
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:54:00 - [11]
 

I'm having a profound case of deja vu here.... Very Happy

And I still don't want your stuff...

Mr Trit
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:55:00 - [12]
 

I like(tm) pancakes

Niraia
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:56:00 - [13]
 

Donate your stuff to Nation! <3

Sorry to see you go, I can completely understand why.




Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
The KWFL Republic
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:57:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Copine Callmeknau on 09/04/2011 23:57:17
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Moved from General Discussion to OOPE.



Moved from General Discussion to OOPE.

bahahaha, in a thread about CCP lies, the ironing is delicious



edit: oh now you move it. Well don't I look silly Sad

Shar Tegral
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:57:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Calathea Sata
Again and again. My faith in CCP keeps falling and falling. I wanted to like you, CCP, but you are too much of a failed messanger that only lives on the dreams and hopes people have in you. You lie, you create fancy drawings and writings and shoot amazing videos about your game. But time and time again, you fail to deliver the promises and the dreams and the fulfilments that we are all hooked on to EVE in the first place.

I have recently lost many long term corp mates (8+ years) for the same sentiments you have expressed in your post. I too find that currently CCP is under-performing again. I say again because this has happened in the past and I totally know what the problem is: Distracted focus.

Whenever CCP tries to develop other intellectual property Eve suffers. Too many of the long term Eve developers look to get into the "new" thing leaving, most likely, junior staff to do a lot of the Eve work. Even those more experienced Dev's still exclusive to Eve will likely try to be well read and up to date on these ancillary "future" products.

In the end, I'm not sure how I feel about this right now. Do I want to endure through a bad Eve cycle again until Oveur & Co. once again gets their collective head out of their asses? I'm not sure. But I do have commitments still ongoing with many friends in Eve & these commitments fund plexes for my account. So while I don't think mined "minerals are free" the total impact of my continued subscription to Eve is zero on my end.

I want to say sorry to see you, and other people, leave over this but truly I'm just sorry that things are the way they are.

Alotta Baggage
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2011.04.09 23:58:00 - [16]
 

Is there any stuff left? Shocked

Froosh
Incidental Damage
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2011.04.10 00:05:00 - [17]
 

plzzz can i has ur stuffs? plzpzlzplzzzzz

Titus Phook
Posted - 2011.04.10 00:07:00 - [18]
 

No stuff but there is cake :P

I can see where the OP is coming from, I signed up just after Apocrypha came out and life was good, since then the expansions seem a little lacklustre to say the least.

Alotta Baggage
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2011.04.10 00:11:00 - [19]
 

Poor CCP, they get this crap and the expansions are free! CCP should go the Blizzard root and make everyone pay for expansions, then people will have something to actually whine about Razz

Roxanna Kell
Anormalii S.A.
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.10 00:32:00 - [20]
 

I Would agree with this op, CCP is not that ambitious ruthless company it was in 2004-2005.
with it growing, i think they just recruited the wrong people for the job.

most of the new ideas have been great. up until TITANS came out, after that.
I saw nothing but fail until t3 that amde me think this might change the game for best.
it did, but other useless upgrades and features that draw away from the things that made this game great.


Also.

Those that say CCP gives free expansions.

LEt me put it this way.

we pay a monthly fee, that in it self is like paying for a new game every month.

yes part of it is to run the server, though if we didnt invest money in the game.
they wouldnt have any to expand with in the first place.

if they want to charge moeny for expansions, it wont work, unlike wow this game is one freaking server.

there is benefit in them giving free upgrades.


and think of the upgrades nothing more than them keeping you itnrested in staying with them.
the jest is nothing more than a sales pitch.


World of tanks ftw. for now until they suck too.

Speedy Spooke
Posted - 2011.04.10 00:35:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Alotta Baggage
Poor CCP, they get this crap and the expansions are free! CCP should go the Blizzard root and make everyone pay for expansions, then people will have something to actually whine about Razz


Blizzard expansions come with more story, line, different worlds.

ccp s expansion comes with crap that you may or may not want, and the occasional ship.

how many % of the players did the freaking last sansha stuff?

you deffend ccp like a salesman deffends an sonny erricson phone.

Florentis
Posted - 2011.04.10 00:35:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Alotta Baggage
Poor CCP, they get this crap and the expansions are free! CCP should go the Blizzard root and make everyone pay for expansions, then people will have something to actually whine about Razz


Omnitank Sansha invasion? Null nerf... Nice expansion, but i don't want kthx. Bring back our Sanctums, and our Havens and purge out the useless 'fillers'!

Jaik7
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:02:00 - [23]
 

i like this post

also, if you can give me some stuffs?

p.s.
you will always be remembered as the pilot of the first threadnought in the new failrums. fofailrums?

no, that does not sound right.

Myra2007
Millstone Industries
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:09:00 - [24]
 

Will miss your smoking hot avatars.

Kudos on realizing what I needed years for to understand and act on. And then I still came back anyway. Guess I'm not the sharpest tool around. Razz

Alotta Baggage
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:23:00 - [25]
 

Bring back Red Moon Rising! Very Happy

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:29:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 10/04/2011 01:55:44

CCP needs to get its act togather, fast.
They need to stop rolling out shiny new junk and focus on what they USED to promise, "excellence".

If GTC//PLEX would not have existed, and I would have had to keep paying cash... I would have probably left already too.
Then again, they exist, and I'm rich enough already in-game... so I'll most likely stick around for a very, very, VERY long time.


Froosh
Incidental Damage
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:30:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Froosh on 10/04/2011 01:54:12
I approve of this post.

Calathea Sata
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:40:00 - [28]
 

Quoting just because.






Originally by: Calathea Sata
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Calathea Sata
Apology accepted. CCP now please prove your sincerity by your actions. Excellence. Deliverance.


I'm waiting to see it on the CCP YouTube channel... in HD.





The corruption that is now present within CCP is not just a temporary illness but a defect that is manifested deep from a more fundamental level of managements/how the company is run/how the top levels decide how the game is going to roll out. We customers are not stupid, in fact, we can be many times cleverer than the staff in CCP (see the recent forum drama) and we all know what we signed up for. There is a limit of our patience. There is a limit of our tolerance. CCP promised 18 months until the phasing out of "EVE beta" (aka the dream game) we said ok, we wait. CCP rolled out empty frameworks of features we said ok because CCP surely is going to polish it. At this point, all is fine, because we still think CCP is actually a competent company that is really going to push out the polished stuff eventually.

However this forum drama have proven, at least to me, that they are just a bunch of conceptual visionaries that have grand ideas but no clear goal and no ability to deliver it. 75,000 man hours producing this kind of forum that has no BASIC security, has bad codings/features not ironed out after two beta tests that are IMMEDIATELY improved by some scripts written by players, has a "like" function that serves absolutely NO function and is proven to be a lagsause/obviously a bad idea to begin with/a lolfeature that has GOT to be removed some day or other. Really? Excellence, deliverance, with the current ways of CCP, they are impossiblilities. This is a very obvious conclusion from this episode of epic forum fail.

Now with CCP proven to be without excellence and deliverance, the 18 months promise immediately doesn't seem so attractive or even FEASABLE anymore. Incarna will be walking in your own room. Dust will come out with only 2 maps initially and 2 guns from 2 of the 4 races, and no orbital strike. 18 months they will start saying there is too much broken features in EVE that they are simply going to reinvent them all making it a totally different game, and will happen only 36 months later.

EVE is dead. Not now, not soon. But unless CCP change their ways of doing things, all the possibilities, all the potentials, the grand visions of an ultimate sci-fi, the epic 1000 ships lag-free battle everyone dreamed about, the exciting individual features that can be fun for all types of players... they do not seem so much of a realistic probability anymore.

Regain our faith CCP. I do not wish to see such a great internet sci-fi simulator in the future getting crushed by incompetance and poor management of its mother company. We all want to see the day coming. But you guys are the ones that need to reconsolidate among yourselves. I hope this message can serve as a gentle slap in the face for CCP, and wake up the dreaming giant within you to build us that untimate galatic kingdom that we see in our dreams.



*the statistics are probably wrong but they are not the mainpoint here.



Kudos for everyone, the fun we had in the likes threadnaught will be missed Twisted Evil

Darveses
Fantastulousification Inc.
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:44:00 - [29]
 

Sorry to see you go Cala, was fun having you around!

Be well.

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
The KWFL Republic
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:49:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Roxanna Kell

Also.

Those that say CCP gives free expansions.

LEt me put it this way.

we pay a monthly fee, that in it self is like paying for a new game every month.



Yep, cause new games totally cost $15
...oh wait

This idiotic idea that expansions aren't free because you pay monthly fees is just.... Rolling Eyes

News flash: In other games you pay a monthly fee and an expansion fee
or, you play a free-to-play game with micro-transactions that puts you at a permanent disadvantage to paying customers..... and you either pay for expansions or the only new features are micro-transaction based


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