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CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.04.06 18:46:00 - [1]
 

EVE Online: Incursion 1.4 has been deployed. This patch includes the new DED complexes, additional character customization options, multiple Little Things from the Team BFF and many other highly anticipated features you can read about on the Incursion website. Please check the patch notes for full details of this release.

We hope you enjoy this latest release and we encourage you to provide us with feedback. Please note that an issues thread already exists to report any problems you may experience with this release.

Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2011.04.06 18:57:00 - [2]
 

there are 3 issues threads made by 2 GMs, and you still failed to link to any of them, n1 :D

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.04.06 19:00:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Rasz Lin
there are 3 issues threads made by 2 GMs, and you still failed to link to any of them, n1 :D



I think the forums are angry at me....

Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
Posted - 2011.04.06 19:01:00 - [4]
 

clearing waypoints is no longer available without having to open the map

before today's patch it was possible to right click on the list of the systems and clear all waypoints...this option is not there anymore.

modules remain active for one cycle even when holding cloak after jumping through a gate

tekant
Posted - 2011.04.06 19:16:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: tekant on 06/04/2011 19:28:29



Is there a Nerf on hangar size? As soon as I loged in I wanted to remove module from my ship. It doesnt let me to put in ahangar , It says There are too many items. I know there was 999 itma limit in station hangars before but now looks like even we have lower


Clearing waypoints works for me. No problem with that.

CCP Punkturis

Posted - 2011.04.06 19:20:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Narisa Bithon
clearing waypoints is no longer available without having to open the map

before today's patch it was possible to right click on the list of the systems and clear all waypoints...this option is not there anymore.


Are you sure? It's still there when I try to do this.. (actually I first didn't see it and panicked but then I realized I was right clicking on the station I just undocked from, not in space Embarassed)

Miso Hawnee
Posted - 2011.04.06 19:25:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Miso Hawnee on 06/04/2011 20:35:42
Edited by: Miso Hawnee on 06/04/2011 19:33:02
Originally by: Narisa Bithon
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modules remain active for one cycle even when holding cloak after jumping through a gate


Server hadn't even been up 5 minutes and half my alliance chat mentioned this.

Also, I thought we were supposed to get one more chance to resculpt our characters, not just play hairdresser in station.

Also, hair dresser does not work either:
You will need to recreate your character through character selection before you can re-customize it.

edit: Hair Dresser is now open for business after relogging.

Wiccan999
Minmatar
Starwinders
Posted - 2011.04.06 19:35:00 - [8]
 

On every jump the autopilot just rests and turns every waypoint off

Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
Posted - 2011.04.06 19:41:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: CCP Punkturis
Originally by: Narisa Bithon
clearing waypoints is no longer available without having to open the map

before today's patch it was possible to right click on the list of the systems and clear all waypoints...this option is not there anymore.


Are you sure? It's still there when I try to do this.. (actually I first didn't see it and panicked but then I realized I was right clicking on the station I just undocked from, not in space Embarassed)


yeah it no longer says "clear all waypoints" as a work around if u click on the last + sign in the list of little squares (red in my case as im in 0.0) it lets you remove waypoint.......... this however will remove all way points rather than just one.

Arra Lith
HUSARIA
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.06 19:42:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Arra Lith on 06/04/2011 19:47:17
With many waypoints (when scroll appears) it is not possible to move waypoint to bottom (to make it final destination point from waypoint):
- when dragging till end nothing happens - you can move it only to 1 before last
- when clicking 'Set destination' error is reveived: "Can't set waypoint to same location twice"

Also I dont see "clear all waypoints" option as well - there is only "Optimize" button. You can delete waypoints only 1 by 1.


And last thing: scrolling is not working while dragging, so moving waypoints with long list is very inconvenient.

Moto Akimoto
Posted - 2011.04.06 19:43:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Moto Akimoto on 06/04/2011 19:53:57
This patch isn't installing correctly on Mac OSX.

"Examining File : /Contents/Frameworks/wineserver -> SHA1 Error"

Edit: Please disregard this post, I am currently running the Repair Tool as suggested on the Mac Forum. Cheers!

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.04.06 19:47:00 - [12]
 

Apparently mining lasers complete a cycle now instead of turning off when you click them off.

Sajeera
Posted - 2011.04.06 19:51:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Miso Hawnee

Server hadn't even been up 5 minutes and half my alliance chat mentioned this.

Also, I thought we were supposed to get one more chance to resculpt our characters, not just play hairdresser in station.

Also, hair dresser does not work either:
You will need to recreate your character through character selection before you can re-customize it.


I can live without resculpting now but once Incarna hit, it will be a must.

Because at that moment half of eve population will realize that they have a female avatars with big, cone shaped breasts, pointing in weird directions. Cool

Towaoc
Caldari
Applied Technologies Inc
Posted - 2011.04.06 19:55:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Towaoc on 06/04/2011 20:02:18

Edit: works o.k.now.

Hesperius
Posted - 2011.04.06 19:58:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Hesperius on 06/04/2011 19:59:13
SSD & limited C drive space

Captain Charismatic
Minmatar
The League of Extraordinary Mentlegen
Posted - 2011.04.06 20:06:00 - [16]
 

Limited C drive space = patch failure = repair failure = repair now downloading 1.02GB of useless crap that will probably fail again.

When Dominion came out, this very problem caused me to have to wait days, and then download the full client. A limited bandwidth connection makes it extremely hard to patch a game that requires more than one attempt that includes downloading the patch / material.

Skeito
Posted - 2011.04.06 20:08:00 - [17]
 

Okay im thick, how do you view saved fittings?

Korasen Abora Sayara
Posted - 2011.04.06 20:10:00 - [18]
 

Quite pleased with the "Reset Expression" button in Portrait mode - would also like to see a "Reset Position" one though.

Ban Doga
Posted - 2011.04.06 20:14:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Captain Charismatic
Limited C drive space = patch failure = repair failure = repair now downloading 1.02GB of useless crap that will probably fail again.

When Dominion came out, this very problem caused me to have to wait days, and then download the full client. A limited bandwidth connection makes it extremely hard to patch a game that requires more than one attempt that includes downloading the patch / material.


How about making more room on your C partition or moving your temp directory to a partition with more space on it?
If you can't do even simple house keeping for your own computer it's really not CCP's fault...

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.04.06 20:15:00 - [20]
 

With time stamps turned on in chat windows, certain smaller size fonts, when wrapping for a new line, appear mingled with the time stamp of the next chat message

Captain Charismatic
Minmatar
The League of Extraordinary Mentlegen
Posted - 2011.04.06 20:20:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:27:54
Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:25:34
Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:23:23
Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:22:16
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: Captain Charismatic
Limited C drive space = patch failure = repair failure = repair now downloading 1.02GB of useless crap that will probably fail again.

When Dominion came out, this very problem caused me to have to wait days, and then download the full client. A limited bandwidth connection makes it extremely hard to patch a game that requires more than one attempt that includes downloading the patch / material.


How about making more room on your C partition or moving your temp directory to a partition with more space on it?
If you can't do even simple house keeping for your own computer it's really not CCP's fault...


Uhh, no.
See, the reason I think it's an installer design flaw is that the normal person is not going to move things around or reassign temp folder to other drives. This is not basic housekeeping. This is more advanced than that.

The average user isn't going to know or care. The fact that the installer demands to use a portion of a drive that can be completely arbitrary seems bad design to me.

You suggested this in a prior thread to another user with the same problem. Imagine that some of us may not even have another drive. I do, but some don't. The fact that limited space causes an extremely messy patching of the game is bad design.

I think an installer such as this needs to roll back changes if it errors, rather than simply going AHHHHHHHHHH and handing it to the repair tool.

EDIT: After downloading that 1.02GB, it's now "restoring files". See if it fails yet again.... O, we're at checksumming client... Completed repair after 56min. Launch client.. ZOMG I CAN LOG IN. Repair tool did it's job for once. Although, I would have expected a better result out of the initial patch, better error handling is needed imo. That was 1GB and an hour of unnecessary commitment.

Holy One
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2011.04.06 20:25:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Holy One on 06/04/2011 20:26:14
Edited by: Holy One on 06/04/2011 20:25:27
Cant import 1000000 units of ionic solutions in to an empty launchpad (10, 000 m3 capacity or 1m ionic solutions) like usual. says there isnt enough space.

I notice someone else is having container issues.

you broke some mathskis?

n/m. I tried it 6 times and refused then left it 5 mins and tried again and it went through.

weird.

w/e

Cresalle
Posted - 2011.04.06 20:27:00 - [23]
 

Majority of the tattoos look stupid and/or nightmarish. And who the hell puts metal spikes in their forehead?

For real?

You had good models of things before and you choose to continue not to use them. How hard would it be to just remodel the old tattoos? Why is it not a good decision to bring back the Caldari face-implants instead of some hellraiser brain-spike bull****?

People get ****ed because you take away things that are important to them. You claim to understand this but then you do **** like this. I can only really come up with three possible explanations of why this might be the case:

1) You just want to **** off as many people as possible before you shut down TQ and turn it into the WoD server. (We'll call this the "you be trollin" scenario.)
2) You have middle managers or etc that want to 'move away from the tired old style' and 'create a new vision' or something. (We'll call this the "****ing brain-stem challenged" scenario.)
3) You are all bat**** crazy, drunk, high, or all of the above. (We'll call this the "viking" scenario.)

Come on, guys. Get serious for a minute. I mean damn. ugh

Anyway, framerate improved mildly but the new content made it like breaking out the china to serve turd sandwiches.

Ban Doga
Posted - 2011.04.06 20:28:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Ban Doga on 06/04/2011 20:32:16
Originally by: Captain Charismatic
Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:25:34
Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:23:23
Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:22:16
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: Captain Charismatic
Limited C drive space = patch failure = repair failure = repair now downloading 1.02GB of useless crap that will probably fail again.

When Dominion came out, this very problem caused me to have to wait days, and then download the full client. A limited bandwidth connection makes it extremely hard to patch a game that requires more than one attempt that includes downloading the patch / material.


How about making more room on your C partition or moving your temp directory to a partition with more space on it?
If you can't do even simple house keeping for your own computer it's really not CCP's fault...


Uhh, no.
See, the reason I think it's an installer design flaw is that the normal person is not going to move things around or reassign temp folder to other drives. This is not basic housekeeping. This is more advanced than that.

The average user isn't going to know or care. The fact that the installer demands to use a portion of a drive that can be completely arbitrary seems bad design to me.

You suggested this in a prior thread to another user with the same problem. Imagine that some of us may not even have another drive. I do, but some don't. The fact that limited space causes an extremely messy patching of the game is bad design.

I think an installer such as this needs to roll back changes if it errors, rather than simply going AHHHHHHHHHH and handing it to the repair tool.

EDIT: After downloading that 1.02GB, it's now "restoring files". See if it fails yet again.... O, we're at checksumming client...


EVERY drive has limited space.
There is not a single one with unlimited capacity.

If your disk is full and it's the only one you have and you want to install something new you need to make room first.
That's really not rocket sience...


Just think how ignorant someone would appear saying
"I don't care about the things under my car's hood. I think it's bad design that some fluids in some of those tanks need to be changed every now and then.
That's totally arbitrary and the car should simply stop instead of getting damaged.
That's more than basic housekeeping for most people. They shouldn't need to do this at all..."

It's your computer, learn to use it properly and stop blaming other people when you fail to keep it running.

CCP Affinity

Posted - 2011.04.06 20:28:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Wiccan999
On every jump the autopilot just rests and turns every waypoint off


Is this an issue for anyone else? I just tried to reproduce this and autopilot is functioning fine for me

Captain Charismatic
Minmatar
The League of Extraordinary Mentlegen
Posted - 2011.04.06 20:31:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:32:07
Originally by: Ban Doga


If your disk is full and it's the only one you have and you want to install something new you need to make room first.
That's really not rocket sience...


I'm not saying it is. That isn't my point. Please don't interpret me wrong.
My point is that a small error such as this, that would be handled on other installers as "O snap, you have no space, make room, rolling back changes", here, results in a half ass patch, where the client version logs are updated, but the material is not.

Then, when you try to launch, you obviously get a client crash. You can't use the ~770MB update file because the file believes your client is updated due to those version logs. It then forces you to use the repair tool, which downloads the missing data THAT YOU ALREADY DOWNLOADED IN THE PATCH, again, but this time unpacked, totaling over a gig.

That is ******ed. There is so much wrong and just unobserved with the way the patching utilities handle errors that it's just... surprising.

That said, I'm gonna go play my EVE now. :D

Captain Charismatic
Minmatar
The League of Extraordinary Mentlegen
Posted - 2011.04.06 20:34:00 - [27]
 

AHAHHAHA. my wormhole system reports its sec status as -1.0
WTF is that?

On a happier note, my pos isn't shooting me. Yet.

Ban Doga
Posted - 2011.04.06 20:35:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Captain Charismatic
Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 06/04/2011 20:32:07
Originally by: Ban Doga


If your disk is full and it's the only one you have and you want to install something new you need to make room first.
That's really not rocket sience...


I'm not saying it is. That isn't my point. Please don't interpret me wrong.


Sorry, I probably misunderstood your posting which started with "Limited C drive space = patch failure".
I wasn't aware that you were referring to something unrelated to how much space was left on your disk.

Ariane VoxDei
Posted - 2011.04.06 20:35:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Ban Doga
How about making more room on your C partition or moving your temp directory to a partition with more space on it?
If you can't do even simple house keeping for your own computer it's really not CCP's fault...

It creates a temporary directory of its own under your user directory (under \users\<processowner>\appdata\local\temp on W7), and that is not trivially moved without upsetting a lot of stuff.

It can be done, but most people are better off not trying to juggle that to another drive. Nor would it be desirable, since usually the reason there is limited space is that they are on a SSD, for speed reasons.

Charlotte Yakamoto
Amarr
Lead Farmers
Posted - 2011.04.06 20:35:00 - [30]
 

The storing of fittings on the server does not work for me on this character. I get a popup asking me what fittings I wish to store on the server. Pressing the OK button however doesn't do anything, no matter if I have no fittings selected, all of them, or just a random selection. Also, emptying my fittings folder does not help, neither does clearing my cache.

It works perfectly fine on another account using the same client however.


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