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CCP Fallout

Posted - 2011.04.04 11:25:00 - [1]
 

Dr.EyjoG's newest dev blog introduces the most recent Quarterly Economic Report, covering the fourth quarter of 2010. Read all about it here.

Update: A high-res version of the QEN has been uploaded to the server and is now available for your perusal.

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.04.04 11:36:00 - [2]
 

\o/
in before ChribbaWink

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2011.04.04 11:40:00 - [3]
 

Yes.

Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.04.04 11:42:00 - [4]
 

pdf is not working for me.

Mr LaForge
Posted - 2011.04.04 11:45:00 - [5]
 

Most of the pictures in the report are of low resolution. Its easy to see pixilating.

FluorosulfonicAcid
Posted - 2011.04.04 11:55:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: FluorosulfonicAcid on 04/04/2011 11:55:34

MagicAcid
Posted - 2011.04.04 11:59:00 - [7]
 

\O/ My insurance fruad production in The Citadel is on the map again

StuRyan
Posted - 2011.04.04 12:06:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: StuRyan on 04/04/2011 12:06:52
Having read page 6 I understand why there are changes being made to null sec. However, as a paying customer rather than to spew this off as a way to "increase conflict" i would have much preferred to read that PLEX is in considerable demand which has been the result of many people being able to upgrade space. ie Too many people can play the game for free.

I understand why there needs to be control on who plays for free - afterall without paying customers EVE would sieze to exist. So next time the stability of the company is to question and it is down to gaming factors do us all a favour and tell us the truth.


TL:DR Truth be told: Guys too many people are playing the game for free. We need to make these changes to reduce the amount of isk in the game

Batolemaeus
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.04.04 12:06:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Batolemaeus on 04/04/2011 12:06:56
Could we finally get some good data on mineral sources and drains?

Information on that has been suspiciously kept under lock since 2008.

Originally by: StuRyan
Having read page 6 I understand why there are changes being made to null sec. However, as a paying customer rather than to spew this off as a way to "increase conflict" i would have much preferred to read that PLEX is in considerable demand which has been the result of many people being able to upgrade space. ie Too many people can play the game for free.

I understand why there needs to be control on who plays for free - afterall without paying customers EVE would sieze to exist. So next time the stability of the company is to question and it is down to gaming factors do us all a favour and tell us the truth.


TL:DR Truth be told: Guys too many people are playing the game for free.


Your post doesn't make much sense.

Efraya
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.04.04 12:10:00 - [10]
 

220% increase in the number of Super Carriers in the last 3 months alone.

Looks like there is something that needs balancing from here.

StuRyan
Posted - 2011.04.04 12:11:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: StuRyan on 04/04/2011 12:15:56
Originally by: Batolemaeus
Edited by: Batolemaeus on 04/04/2011 12:06:56
Could we finally get some good data on mineral sources and drains?

Information on that has been suspiciously kept under lock since 2008.

Originally by: StuRyan
Having read page 6 I understand why there are changes being made to null sec. However, as a paying customer rather than to spew this off as a way to "increase conflict" i would have much preferred to read that PLEX is in considerable demand which has been the result of many people being able to upgrade space. ie Too many people can play the game for free.

I understand why there needs to be control on who plays for free - afterall without paying customers EVE would sieze to exist. So next time the stability of the company is to question and it is down to gaming factors do us all a favour and tell us the truth.


TL:DR Truth be told: Guys too many people are playing the game for free.


Your post doesn't make much sense.


Increasing number of plex being sold = more people able to generate gametime via ISK, Less wonga for CCP. simple

edit: good indication is the increase in PLEX it self.

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2011.04.04 12:15:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Salpun
pdf is not working for me.


are you getting some sort of error message?

Antiluvian
Posted - 2011.04.04 12:16:00 - [13]
 

pdf wont load past 50% and keeps crashing fire fox, whats up

Mithfindel
Zenko Incorporated
Posted - 2011.04.04 12:16:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Mithfindel on 04/04/2011 12:16:44
Originally by: StuRyan
Increasing number of plex being sold = more people able to generate gametime via ISK, Less wonga for CCP. simple


And the PLEX is seeded by NPCs, right? It is completely unthinkable that real people would pay CCP to get items they can sell ingame for ISK, right?

Since the Net doesn't exactly conduct sarcasm, even in its most obvious forms: as far as we know, no PLEX just appear by magic. If you're funding your subscription by PLEX, it means that someone else is paying CCP for your game time with "real money" and getting your "spaceship money" for it.

Amazing?

Evilan Altana
Moriar Libera
Posted - 2011.04.04 12:18:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Evilan Altana on 04/04/2011 12:25:35
A new QEN, hurray.

Edit: whoops misread the note in reference to overall population.

Antiluvian
Posted - 2011.04.04 12:19:00 - [16]
 

consistently gets to 850 mb then stops and does nothing, 2 out of 5 attempts firefox frozen and need force restart, (win 7)

StuRyan
Posted - 2011.04.04 12:31:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: StuRyan on 04/04/2011 12:40:07
Edited by: StuRyan on 04/04/2011 12:37:56
Originally by: Mithfindel
Edited by: Mithfindel on 04/04/2011 12:16:44
Originally by: StuRyan
Increasing number of plex being sold = more people able to generate gametime via ISK, Less wonga for CCP. simple


And the PLEX is seeded by NPCs, right? It is completely unthinkable that real people would pay CCP to get items they can sell ingame for ISK, right?

Since the Net doesn't exactly conduct sarcasm, even in its most obvious forms: as far as we know, no PLEX just appear by magic. If you're funding your subscription by PLEX, it means that someone else is paying CCP for your game time with "real money" and getting your "spaceship money" for it.

Amazing?


It is amazing and as i wrote, the increase in ISK paid is a good indictation that not enough Timecard are being paid for by real money.

edit: Completely unthinkable that the price of PLEX would decrease if more people started paying for the game with real money wouldn't it.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.04.04 12:45:00 - [18]
 

/facepalm at the part about "stabilizing" PLEX prices.
Both the "stealth NPC" purchase or sale of PLEX on the market would be highly unadvisable.
It is my only hope that it's only a ruse to prevent speculators from getting too daring and not much else.

Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.04.04 12:52:00 - [19]
 

It did not load the first time and the three blank pages at the beginning are messing a lot of people up as they scroll down.

zz01shagsme
Posted - 2011.04.04 13:05:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: StuRyan
Edited by: StuRyan on 04/04/2011 12:40:07
Edited by: StuRyan on 04/04/2011 12:37:56
Originally by: Mithfindel
Edited by: Mithfindel on 04/04/2011 12:16:44
Originally by: StuRyan
Increasing number of plex being sold = more people able to generate gametime via ISK, Less wonga for CCP. simple


And the PLEX is seeded by NPCs, right? It is completely unthinkable that real people would pay CCP to get items they can sell ingame for ISK, right?

Since the Net doesn't exactly conduct sarcasm, even in its most obvious forms: as far as we know, no PLEX just appear by magic. If you're funding your subscription by PLEX, it means that someone else is paying CCP for your game time with "real money" and getting your "spaceship money" for it.

Amazing?


It is amazing and as i wrote, the increase in ISK paid is a good indictation that not enough Timecard are being paid for by real money.

edit: Completely unthinkable that the price of PLEX would decrease if more people started paying for the game with real money wouldn't it.


How would you like the can of sarcasm... LOL nice one Stu

bitters much
Nekkid Inc.
Posted - 2011.04.04 13:19:00 - [21]
 

Bounty prizes up 8.1t compared to Q3 2011 (no comparison to Q4 2010, unfortunately), to 75.7t. Shocked

And you ( whiners ) wonder why CCP is nerfing 0.0 anomalies.



Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2011.04.04 13:19:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Rasz Lin on 04/04/2011 13:30:21
Originally by: Mr LaForge
Most of the pictures in the report are of low resolution. Its easy to see pixilating.


this pdf looks like a joke :( soo pixelated

I like the part of the QEN dedicated to botting ... oh wait.
So the guy sees too much ISK generated, and doesnt know about bots?

pmchem
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.04.04 13:29:00 - [23]
 

When CCP has the Echelon listed as the 5th most popular shiptype, you know their method for determining popular ships is absolutely useless. Don't rely on a snapshot of the db that counts every single newbie character sitting in a ship in a station, logged out. Don't even gather stats based on ship ownership. Use snapshots of ships in space -- you know, what people actually use. Then exclude rookie ships and shuttles.

Your results would be very different.

Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
Posted - 2011.04.04 13:32:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Akita T
/facepalm at the part about "stabilizing" PLEX prices.
Both the "stealth NPC" purchase or sale of PLEX on the market would be highly unadvisable.
It is my only hope that it's only a ruse to prevent speculators from getting too daring and not much else.


This

First at the economy talk at Fanfest and now in written form talks of "stabilizing PLEX"

Do. Not. Do. This.

Batolemaeus
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.04.04 13:34:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: StuRyan

Increasing number of plex being sold = more people able to generate gametime via ISK, Less wonga for CCP. simple

edit: good indication is the increase in PLEX it self.


I don't think you're qualified enough to post in this thread about spaceship economy.

Valeroth Kyarmentari
Posted - 2011.04.04 13:35:00 - [26]
 

At last... Very nice. I would like to see a chart for most popular ships by "time flown". Instead of a snapshot. I often logout in my Noctis (because salvaging is the last thing I do for the night), but it's not where I spend most of my time.

So now I'm going to be a pest and ask when the Q1 2011 QEN is coming? I'm assuming the Q4 2010 was just delayed due to Fanfest.



GIGAR
Caldari
Posted - 2011.04.04 13:35:00 - [27]
 

I'm just wondering when CCP will actually start to take their game seriously again.

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.04 13:36:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: bitters much
Bounty prizes up 8.1t compared to Q3 2011 (no comparison to Q4 2010, unfortunately), to 75.7t. Shocked

And you ( whiners ) wonder why CCP is nerfing 0.0 anomalies.




Well according to CCP it is gonna decrease the stability of coalitions and lead to more conflict, so according to them that is the reason they are nerfing it. It would mean some morons thought of that idea, but we are talking about CCP after all.

Your explanation is roughly equally moronic, making reward in 0.0 much less then in high sec, while there is much higher risk, is just ridiculous. ISK faucet nerf? Fine, but that is no reason to ruin the income completely. They could for example have added an agent upgrade instead, which gives agents in space. ISK sink by the LP shop, so no huge ISK faucet without ruining 0.0 income.

Evelgrivion
Gunpoint Diplomacy
Posted - 2011.04.04 13:51:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: bitters much
Bounty prizes up 8.1t compared to Q3 2011 (no comparison to Q4 2010, unfortunately), to 75.7t. Shocked

And you ( whiners ) wonder why CCP is nerfing 0.0 anomalies.




Well according to CCP it is gonna decrease the stability of coalitions and lead to more conflict, so according to them that is the reason they are nerfing it. It would mean some morons thought of that idea, but we are talking about CCP after all.

Your explanation is roughly equally moronic, making reward in 0.0 much less then in high sec, while there is much higher risk, is just ridiculous. ISK faucet nerf? Fine, but that is no reason to ruin the income completely. They could for example have added an agent upgrade instead, which gives agents in space. ISK sink by the LP shop, so no huge ISK faucet without ruining 0.0 income.


The backbone of the current NC coalition is the promise of safety in numbers and easy money through sanctums. Other than Razor and Morsus Mihi, and with the newly introduced third leg of Goonswarm, every single other entity in the Northern Coalitions blues list exists as meat shield filling. Do whatever, but show up for our CTAs to throw more numbers at the problem.

By changing the anomalies, the NC can't keep its promise of easy ratting nearly as well as it used to. I wonder how Goonswarm is going to take the inevitable envy of NC renters and members who can't make money like Goonswarm can with the newly invigorated Deklein.

StuRyan
Posted - 2011.04.04 13:52:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Batolemaeus
Originally by: StuRyan

Increasing number of plex being sold = more people able to generate gametime via ISK, Less wonga for CCP. simple

edit: good indication is the increase in PLEX it self.


I don't think you're qualified enough to post in this thread about spaceship economy.


I think your completely irrelevent run along now recess is over.


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