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ShadowsMirror
Posted - 2011.04.05 17:19:00 - [271]
 

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The problem is that they won't have any of that since they won't be able to afford it because the crap sec level means their space is only a waste of ISK.

They'll get the same things with much less hassle by simply living in high/low-sec and doing 0.0-raids…

…which is pretty much 100% contrary to what CCP's stated objective with the patch.


I used to live in great wildlands (npc space), in a constellation bordering another region. There was only one way through the pipe, and it was where our alliances was. Next door there was a -0.9 or -1.0 security system, the lowest possible to have. We were prohibited from ratting or scanning down plexes as it belonged to the core alliance. So we had access to our alliances 'systems', but not the cores. Sure at the time we were renting from foundation, but if we could have sov benefits I probably would have stayed. Sanctums were rare finds and there are plenty of systems within our allotted space with dozens of belts... I think the majority of folks complaining are looking at it from a very personal & limited scope. Either that or your all way too spoiled...


Abinadi9
NerdHerd
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.04.05 17:30:00 - [272]
 

Originally by: ShadowsMirror
I used to live in great wildlands (npc space)


So admittedly, you don't have a dog in this fight.

Originally by: ShadowsMirror
, in a constellation bordering another region.


Scalding Pass, Ismother, Geminate, or Catch?

Originally by: ShadowsMirror
There was only one way through the pipe, and it was where our alliances was.


yar har!

Originally by: ShadowsMirror
Next door there was a -0.9 or -1.0 security system, the lowest possible to have.


Actually I checked dotlan, there is no -.9 or -1.0 system bordering "right next door" to GWL.

Originally by: ShadowsMirror
We were prohibited from ratting or scanning down plexes as it belonged to the core alliance.


So your "alliance" was a pet of another alliance that was in one of these systems? Why didn't you just go to a 0.0 instead of picking up the scraps like a pet?

Originally by: ShadowsMirror
So we had access to our alliances 'systems', but not the cores.


Why did you quote systems? Did they not exist or something?

Originally by: ShadowsMirror
Sure at the time we were renting from foundation, but if we could have sov benefits I probably would have stayed.


So admittedly, you didn't like living in systems that are going to be like the new 0.0 to -0.24 systems.

Originally by: ShadowsMirror
Sanctums were rare finds and there are plenty of systems within our allotted space with dozens of belts...


Except with the new game mechanics there will be no sanctums in the 0.0 to -0.24 systems.

Originally by: ShadowsMirror
I think the majority of folks complaining are looking at it from a very personal & limited scope.


Just as you have related to us, your personal and limited scope.

Originally by: ShadowsMirror
Either that or your all way too spoiled...


Or we actually just liked the sandbox rules that existed.

Im Super Gay
Posted - 2011.04.05 17:39:00 - [273]
 

Originally by: ShadowsMirror

New corps / alliances looking for a foothold into 0.0, even if its a crap sec level, are lured in by sov benefits, having their own system with belts, ded plexes, pvp, jump bridge networks etc. All thanks to SOV. Wonderful isnt it? What your complaining about is having to move or adapt, boo hoo. You have all of eve to pick from now, enjoy.

You know a corp/alliance can have their own system with belts by controlling a portion of lowsec, right? Along with those DED plexes, which btw the entrapment arrays don't seem to work anyway Shocked. Please explain how an entry level alliance is going to be able to make enough money beyond the sov bills to do anything. Besides that, the only benefits of living in crappy 0.0 now is jump bridges (although I doubt there's any alliances that move to 0.0 so they can put up jump bridges Rolling Eyes) and the ability to make supercaps. Which, in addition to the aforementioned money problems of crappy truesec, I don't believe a larger alliance is going to allow supercaps to be built right under their noses.

You want truesec to mean something? Start the crappy truesec off where it is now (2 havens, 2 sanctums) and increase the number from there as you get to better truesec. That way there's something of an isk source for entry level alliances, who can't rely on moon goo. The changes now make the rich richer (large alliances) and the poor poorer (entry level alliances). Not that the entry level alliances stood a chance before, but now they stand much less of a chance now.

Go back to lvl 4 missions kkthxbai. In b4 denial of running lvl 4 missions.

clideb50
Posted - 2011.04.05 17:57:00 - [274]
 

After reading the 1st two pages of people whining I've found a solution to their anom problems.

Why don't you invest in a helios (or similar ship) and scan down other sites to run. Simple as that, or are you afraid to have to do that much extra work for your isk?

AJ Deathwing
Posted - 2011.04.05 18:00:00 - [275]
 

Originally by: Abinadi9

Actually I checked dotlan, there is no -.9 or -1.0 system bordering "right next door" to GWL.



I think the system shadow means is V-IH6B (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Great_Wildlands/V-IH6B) its the only -1 tru sec system thats anywhere near a region border and its the one bordering to Etherium Reach, i used to live in BRT-OP which is the "Actual" border system, even so NPC 0.0 is terribad and there was no point doing anything other than mining in that system as it only had 6 belts, that isnt enuff to support one ratter and tbqh the mining in there wasnt all that good either, i use to ninja all the good roids every day after DT with about 5 hulks

Brother KazUhl
Posted - 2011.04.05 18:12:00 - [276]
 

Oh how we love patch-ragequits. Yes we do! *patpat*

On a more serious note:
I enjoy EVE out of the awesome ****load of LORE it possesses that probably half or more of the folks here hardly even know exists. Good fiction and it deserves praise DAMNIT!
Hardly ANY other MMO gives you that much fun stuff to read.
Apart from so called Free-To-Play MMO's that charge everything past the base stuff, which MMO's give you lots of free expansions?

And mostly of all... which MMO lets all you mischievious and EEEVIIIL bastards prey on your fellow players and ENCOURAGES it since its part of the universal nature of mankind and therefore, in a primarily human-driven Sci-Fi-Setting, EVE Online.

I love EVE. The learning curve is horrendously evil and its good. Life is hard too.

So if you feel like YOUR very personal experience of EVE is in terrible danger because you have to change and adapt again then do RageQuit. See if anybody gives a ****.
If you ragequit life, called suicide by some, God or the State that ate your taxes gives about the same amount of **** like CCP. Given, your friends and family will miss you. Hopefully.
Seeing the GLORIOUS simmilarities?

This is the funny simmilarity between EVE and real life. You either adapt or fail and get trampled.
EVE has given you much and to be frank with you guys, having 6 accounts is too much for anybody remotely sane or employed. That is if you are able to actually use them all.

I pay for my subscription, I am a total wuss each time I cross over into low or zero and the game is FUN because of it. DEADSPACE 2 or AMNESIA couldn't scare me more than loosing my ship there. And its good.


So you have a few choices from my, yes... total lowsec-n00bish, way of thinking:

a) Pay for EVE like the majority, and while at it stop whining about paying when you are farming ISK 4 PLEX... this is insulting to the guys that work their asses off for you.

b) Try to keep your ISK-Lifestyle and evolve and adapt in this new hostile universe.

c) Ragequit one or more accounts and see who gives a flying Gallentean Nipple piercing. Nobody will, since they are best fitted to a nipple of course.



I for one am happy with the patch, live mostly in High-Sec where I plan terrorist attacks on other players with my Alts ... why? BECAUSE I CAN! Weeee!


... dear lord, I am so going to be dead in a week, but somebody had to say it... again!

Sincerely,
-Brother Kaz'Uhl

Abinadi9
NerdHerd
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.04.05 18:12:00 - [277]
 

Originally by: clideb50
After reading the 1st two pages of people whining I've found a solution to their anom problems.

Why don't you invest in a helios (or similar ship) and scan down other sites to run. Simple as that, or are you afraid to have to do that much extra work for your isk?


So having an opinion is whining?

Guys like DH need to spend another 11.25B ISK to upgrade to entrapment arrays (things that didn't work right before this patch) to upgrade all their systems because CCP decided they didn't need the havens or sanctums in their systems at all.

YOU'RE SO SMART!

Abinadi9
NerdHerd
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.04.05 18:19:00 - [278]
 

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
I pay for my subscription


As do I.

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
a) Pay for EVE like the majority, and while at it stop whining about paying when you are farming ISK 4 PLEX... this is insulting to the guys that work their asses off for you.


This won't fix ISK farming, as a lot of that is done in 0.0 using belt rats.

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
b) Try to keep your ISK-Lifestyle and evolve and adapt in this new hostile universe.


The correct quote is "adapt again"

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
c) Ragequit one or more accounts and see who gives a flying Gallentean Nipple piercing. Nobody will, since they are best fitted to a nipple of course.


Nobody would care if you quit either.

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
I for one am happy with the patch, live mostly in High-Sec where I plan terrorist attacks on other players with my Alts ... why? BECAUSE I CAN! Weeee!


Of course you are, it doesn't effect you. Lets take out level four missions and see how much you like it. The fact of the matter is that mission running is more of a faucet because the majority of people are in high sec.

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
... dear lord, I am so going to be dead in a week, but somebody had to say it... again!


Don't tease me like that.

Dirk Decibel
Posted - 2011.04.05 18:24:00 - [279]
 

Awesome petsj! I love all the little tweaks and fixes. <3

Keep it going CCP! Plenty of more to tweak and fix Cool

Abinadi9
NerdHerd
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.04.05 18:29:00 - [280]
 

Edited by: Abinadi9 on 05/04/2011 18:31:14
Originally by: Dirk Decibel
I love all the little tweaks and fixes. <3

Keep it going CCP! Plenty of more to tweak and fix Cool


Including level 4 & 5 missions only being in 0.0 so people getting screwed over by the 0.0 nerf can have some fun

Tech moons being redistributed.

Truesec map being redrawn for relevances.

Dynamically shifting truesec.

A withdrawal of CONCORD from 0.5-0.6 systems.

clideb50
Posted - 2011.04.05 19:33:00 - [281]
 

Edited by: clideb50 on 05/04/2011 19:36:55
Edited by: clideb50 on 05/04/2011 19:33:31
Originally by: Abinadi9
Originally by: clideb50
After reading the 1st two pages of people whining I've found a solution to their anom problems.

Why don't you invest in a helios (or similar ship) and scan down other sites to run. Simple as that, or are you afraid to have to do that much extra work for your isk?


So having an opinion is whining?

Guys like DH need to spend another 11.25B ISK to upgrade to entrapment arrays (things that didn't work right before this patch) to upgrade all their systems because CCP decided they didn't need the havens or sanctums in their systems at all.

YOU'RE SO SMART!


1)Okay sorry after reading the 1st two pages of opinions*

2) Who is DH?

3)Take a deep breath. Yes it sucks the value of some nullsec systems are going to be reduced, but if systems are useless to larger alliances they won't care about them. Thus there will be some openings for people who want to just have some sov.

Brother KazUhl
Posted - 2011.04.05 20:20:00 - [282]
 

Edited by: Brother KazUhl on 05/04/2011 20:20:53
Originally by: Abinadi9
Originally by: Brother KazUhl
I pay for my subscription


As do I.


Neat-Oh! *shakehands*

Originally by: Abinadi9
Originally by: Brother KazUhl
a) Pay for EVE like the majority, and while at it stop whining about paying when you are farming ISK 4 PLEX... this is insulting to the guys that work their asses off for you.


This won't fix ISK farming, as a lot of that is done in 0.0 using belt rats.


Agreed, this is meant as a sarcastic generalization and to make people think, even if a bit rude in phrasing.

Originally by: Abinadi9
Originally by: Brother KazUhl
b) Try to keep your ISK-Lifestyle and evolve and adapt in this new hostile universe.


The correct quote is "adapt again"


I stand corrected, and shamed, as I thought my implication that the general evolution of the playerbase and their respective skills, not character-skills mind you, is for the betterment of EVE Online was obvious. Stagnation, in content and skill, is the death of an MMO. See WoW and trailblazers.

Originally by: Abinadi9
Originally by: Brother KazUhl
c) Ragequit one or more accounts and see who gives a flying Gallentean Nipple piercing. Nobody will, since they are best fitted to a nipple of course.


Nobody would care if you quit either.


Of course not, and I've never implied that anybody would. I am quite realistic there, thank you.

Originally by: Abinadi9
Originally by: Brother KazUhl
I for one am happy with the patch, live mostly in High-Sec where I plan terrorist attacks on other players with my Alts ... why? BECAUSE I CAN! Weeee!


Of course you are, it doesn't effect you. Lets take out level four missions and see how much you like it. The fact of the matter is that mission running is more of a faucet because the majority of people are in high sec.


I say let us! Change should be the only true constant. Again, stagnation is death.

Originally by: Abinadi9
Originally by: Brother KazUhl
... dear lord, I am so going to be dead in a week, but somebody had to say it... again!


Don't tease me like that.


I am not teasing, merely stating my profoundly accurate divinations of Murphy's Law in my regard. Interestingly enough I expected more ... lets say verbal-WHACK! but thank you for your nice and stoic reply. Keep it up and I have one more check to make on my misanthropic list of whorthwhile humans. That would be ... nice.

Sincerely,
-Brother Kaz'Uhl

(damn you totalbuiscuit for making me talk like a effin' gentleman alluvasudden! *gg*)

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.05 21:39:00 - [283]
 

Edited by: Renan Ruivo on 05/04/2011 21:39:19
Guys... its called Forlorn Hub.

For real. Try them. I mean it.


Report back here once you did.

WBS
Posted - 2011.04.05 21:46:00 - [284]
 

I was wondering if anyone else has the ability to download the client, I cant seem to get past selecting my O/S, is it unavailable this early before a patch...I dont mind playing other games, but only when fored too, awesome for a carbon based life form

edfhk'lkhff
Posted - 2011.04.05 21:48:00 - [285]
 

Get off demin honters sack already...let someone else have a turn.

iaunplexneamule
Posted - 2011.04.05 21:56:00 - [286]
 

THE PROBLEM THAT players put up with CCP crap and CCP doesnt give a damn because they wont lose many players And you wanna know why? because there is no competition, i mean there is no other single game that competes with eve online, sure you will say there are a lot o games like eve and i tell you there are space simulator mmo's but all are crap an ****y and they are f2p and have shop and the game is published only for the ******s that wanna make fast lvl's exp money and stuff like that. I say stop crying and find new ways to make isk, the anomalies wont die is not like they will remove them totaly, you can make decent money from smaller anomalies not only sanctums and heavens and the good part is that campers wont come to bother you they will go in -1 an -0.8 systems. So stop crying about this and put your brains to work.

WBS
Posted - 2011.04.05 22:08:00 - [287]
 

What a great game you pay for an account and you cant even dowload it..way to go CCP I paid you for nothing when do I get to download the game so I can play it..I guess some whiz kid thought it be a good idea to drop the file server early.

Slaangani
Gallente
Sedition Theory
Posted - 2011.04.05 22:10:00 - [288]
 

arg! another day off and another patch day *sigh*. oh well, time to go into that mythical place called outside Laughing

SingMi
Posted - 2011.04.05 22:23:00 - [289]
 

So we have CCP Bella Bee in here discussing re-sculpture and other really important stuff like portraits..Where is Greyscale to discuss the impending 0.0 nerf? nowhere...not a single response to this or the anon thread which at the moment has 96 pages!

CCP I would just like to inform you...We pay your salary, which judging by the reaction in these threads will very soon drop. Think about what you are doing; months of hard work from corps to purchase and setup iHubs, raise military, industry levels. What you are doing will destroy all of that, and you are doing it with ZERO response and ZERO warning.

Such a lack of communication shows the contempt you have for your playerbase, which as I already stated will drop.

Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.04.05 22:29:00 - [290]
 

Originally by: SingMi
So we have CCP Bella Bee in here discussing re-sculpture and other really important stuff like portraits..Where is Greyscale to discuss the impending 0.0 nerf? nowhere...not a single response to this or the anon thread which at the moment has 96 pages!

CCP I would just like to inform you...We pay your salary, which judging by the reaction in these threads will very soon drop. Think about what you are doing; months of hard work from corps to purchase and setup iHubs, raise military, industry levels. What you are doing will destroy all of that, and you are doing it with ZERO response and ZERO warning.

Such a lack of communication shows the contempt you have for your playerbase, which as I already stated will drop.


What exactly can Greyscale do or say at this point. People are in a frothy rage. CCP have to do this to save their game long term. Nothing he can possible say will make you happy, although I do agree that they should have just described it as what it is in the first place.

The only really appropriate thing Greyscale could possibly add to this thread or the other one would be:

"Can I have your stuff?"

I would lol.

Jack Gilligan
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.04.05 22:40:00 - [291]
 

I disagree. He can say one thing that will make everyone happy, "The anomaly changes in upgraded systems has been removed from the patch, and will not be re-introduced in any form without engagement of the community and the CSM".

Brother KazUhl
Posted - 2011.04.05 23:02:00 - [292]
 

I still find it utterly adorable how most players think they are paying the salaries of the developers.

First of, you don't. Not even remotely.

Even if half of the EVE comunity would quit, CCP would still be here.
The only thing that gets a cut if people unsubscribe is their budget... and guess what?

This will just make their progress slower, their hardware less cutting-edge than the competition and basically make them less of a danger to their competitors.

Yes, it is a given that eventually the whole of EVE could die of that but that is highly unlikely.

For one, EVE never had the immense player-count that a WOW had. Also they do not need them. They have been the MMO-Underdog for years and are probably good at working with a lower budget than Blizzard by now.

Face it, you have about as much impact on their salaries as you have on the salaries of your local policemen. You pay taxes yes, and in the end the taxes are used by the state to form a budget that gets used ... in part ... to pay the policemen, but rave and rant all you want, you will not make them get any more or any less money.

Same here, only that its the free market.

Why some people still cling to their hope that unsubscribing will make much impact is beyond my comprehension. You are a statistic. Deal with it.

If I get shot on the street tonight I am headline for a week tops and a statistic for the rest of my countrys time left.

Same when you subscribe or unsubscribe. You matter in the annual board-meetings as a tiny speck in the statistic that is either in Black or Red numbers. Thats about it.


And yes, I believe that a gaming company should listen to their customers, since a happy customer is a paying one, no doubt about that. ^_~

I just find everybody laughable that thinks that posting stuff like '****ing patch! Imma unsubscribe now ****wads!' will make anybody care in any way shape or form.

The only reasonable answer to that, for the developers, and I believe it was already stated numerous times is this:
'Too bad, can I have your stuff?'


So, get your heads outta your asses and use them. More constructive critique might get you your precious... whatever it is you are whining about, back in a future patch.

Of course I am just one guy and therefore my opinion is as good as the one above and below me. Still I feel generous and wanted to share.

BTW CCP-Staff... I hope you listen to the constructive parts and just **** on the nonsense-rants.

Thank you and good night.

VIncent Vance
Gallente
URSALIS LOGISTICS GROUP
Posted - 2011.04.05 23:04:00 - [293]
 

More typical tunnel vision from the NC on display here again....

Abinadi9
NerdHerd
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.04.05 23:39:00 - [294]
 

Originally by: edfhk'lkhff
Get off demin honters sack already...let someone else have a turn.



Who's on their sack? I'm pointing them out as an example who's getting screwed. I'm in DRF for crying out loud :)

Abinadi9
NerdHerd
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.04.05 23:43:00 - [295]
 

Originally by: Jack Gilligan
I disagree. He can say one thing that will make everyone happy, "The anomaly changes in upgraded systems has been removed from the patch, and will not be re-introduced in any form without engagement of the community and the CSM".



No Jack, not even that would make everyone happy. Only 93.7% of the player base.

Abinadi9
NerdHerd
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.04.05 23:55:00 - [296]
 

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
I still find it utterly adorable how most players think they are paying the salaries of the developers.

First of, you don't. Not even remotely.



Would you care to share where you believe the money tree is in Iceland? Is it Hillmer's trust fund that supports everything?

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
Even if half of the EVE comunity would quit, CCP would still be here.
The only thing that gets a cut if people unsubscribe is their budget... and guess what?


Correct me if I'm wrong, developer salaries come from a budget don't they?

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
For one, EVE never had the immense player-count that a WOW had. Also they do not need them. They have been the MMO-Underdog for years and are probably good at working with a lower budget than Blizzard by now.


So, who's talking about WOW? Honestly, no one wants this game to be comparable to WOW in any factor. Not in game play, not in pvp, mechanics, anything.

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
Face it, you have about as much impact on their salaries as you have on the salaries of your local policemen. You pay taxes yes, and in the end the taxes are used by the state to form a budget that gets used ... in part ... to pay the policemen, but rave and rant all you want, you will not make them get any more or any less money.


Are you saying the US federal government will step in and subsidize CCP if all the players quit?

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
Why some people still cling to their hope that unsubscribing will make much impact is beyond my comprehension. You are a statistic. Deal with it.


Yes, you are too, one of the 6.6% that support CCP in this patch.

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
If I get shot on the street tonight I am headline for a week tops and a statistic for the rest of my countrys time left.


Man you are a tease, two today!

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
Same when you subscribe or unsubscribe. You matter in the annual board-meetings as a tiny speck in the statistic that is either in Black or Red numbers. Thats about it.


Enough red will influence decisions. They're called trends and patterns.


Originally by: Brother KazUhl
And yes, I believe that a gaming company should listen to their customers, since a happy customer is a paying one, no doubt about that. ^_~

I just find everybody laughable that thinks that posting stuff like '****ing patch! Imma unsubscribe now ****wads!' will make anybody care in any way shape or form.

The only reasonable answer to that, for the developers, and I believe it was already stated numerous times is this:
'Too bad, can I have your stuff?'


Or employ what normal companies do and *here it comes* listen to what your customers want.

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
So, get your heads outta your asses and use them.


What would you like me to do with my ass?

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
More constructive critique might get you your precious... whatever it is you are whining about, back in a future patch.


A more detailed conversation with the customer base about megachanges instead of a 3 week turn around from announcement to implementation and consulting the "stake holders", the CSM for example, would be helpful.

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
BTW CCP-Staff... I hope you listen to the constructive parts and just **** on the nonsense-rants.


They won't.


Aveneo
SkyNet Technologies Inc.
Posted - 2011.04.05 23:59:00 - [297]
 

Faction FoF missiles have now appropriate faction tags?

That's nice, but when are FoF missiles going to be fixed so they target enemy ships (as they're supposed to) instead of targeting structures, neutral/friendly ships and basically everything except those enemies that are hammering away at you unchallenged because the FoF missiles are too busy trying to destroy pieces of space junk, fellow squad members and (npc) ships you were supposed to assist?

As I recall from real life deployment, these types of missiles should distinguish between friend or foe and engage the latter whilst avoiding the former. But in their present state they are not working as intended in EVE Online.

I would really appreciate it if you guys could look into this. Cool

Abinadi9
NerdHerd
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.04.06 00:02:00 - [298]
 

Originally by: SingMi
Where is Greyscale to discuss the impending 0.0 nerf? nowhere...not a single response to this or the anon thread which at the moment has 96 pages!


Well why would he? He doesn't owe anyone anything, after all, this is a perfect decision that MOST people agree with.

$20 bucks says he doesn't say one more word before the patch hits and they change everything.

Brother KazUhl
Posted - 2011.04.06 00:05:00 - [299]
 

Originally by: Abinadi9
Originally by: Brother KazUhl
I still find it utterly adorable how most players think they are paying the salaries of the developers.

First of, you don't. Not even remotely.



Would you care to share where you believe the money tree is in Iceland? Is it Hillmer's trust fund that supports everything?

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
Even if half of the EVE comunity would quit, CCP would still be here.
The only thing that gets a cut if people unsubscribe is their budget... and guess what?


Correct me if I'm wrong, developer salaries come from a budget don't they?

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
For one, EVE never had the immense player-count that a WOW had. Also they do not need them. They have been the MMO-Underdog for years and are probably good at working with a lower budget than Blizzard by now.


So, who's talking about WOW? Honestly, no one wants this game to be comparable to WOW in any factor. Not in game play, not in pvp, mechanics, anything.

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
Face it, you have about as much impact on their salaries as you have on the salaries of your local policemen. You pay taxes yes, and in the end the taxes are used by the state to form a budget that gets used ... in part ... to pay the policemen, but rave and rant all you want, you will not make them get any more or any less money.


Are you saying the US federal government will step in and subsidize CCP if all the players quit?

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
Why some people still cling to their hope that unsubscribing will make much impact is beyond my comprehension. You are a statistic. Deal with it.


Yes, you are too, one of the 6.6% that support CCP in this patch.

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
If I get shot on the street tonight I am headline for a week tops and a statistic for the rest of my countrys time left.


Man you are a tease, two today!

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
Same when you subscribe or unsubscribe. You matter in the annual board-meetings as a tiny speck in the statistic that is either in Black or Red numbers. Thats about it.


Enough red will influence decisions. They're called trends and patterns.


Originally by: Brother KazUhl
And yes, I believe that a gaming company should listen to their customers, since a happy customer is a paying one, no doubt about that. ^_~

I just find everybody laughable that thinks that posting stuff like '****ing patch! Imma unsubscribe now ****wads!' will make anybody care in any way shape or form.

The only reasonable answer to that, for the developers, and I believe it was already stated numerous times is this:
'Too bad, can I have your stuff?'


Or employ what normal companies do and *here it comes* listen to what your customers want.

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
So, get your heads outta your asses and use them.


What would you like me to do with my ass?

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
More constructive critique might get you your precious... whatever it is you are whining about, back in a future patch.


A more detailed conversation with the customer base about megachanges instead of a 3 week turn around from announcement to implementation and consulting the "stake holders", the CSM for example, would be helpful.

Originally by: Brother KazUhl
BTW CCP-Staff... I hope you listen to the constructive parts and just **** on the nonsense-rants.


They won't.




I will reply to this when I can give a **** again, but then in detail, as I feel that you deserve it at least. =P

Guillame Herschel
Gallente
NME1
Posted - 2011.04.06 00:10:00 - [300]
 

So I guess the new DED plexes that will now spawn, are where the missing complex loot items (like most of the deadspace 10MN MicrowarpDrives) can be found?

If so, Yay.


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