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Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2011.03.30 11:43:00 - [1]
 

If you could combine science fiction lore from one of the two other following areas (TV Shows, Movies, Books, Anime, or Computer Game) with EVE Onlines in an effort to create your ultimate mashup, possibly for the production of a Sci-Fi series what ones would you pick? You can use the other lore to enhance EVE Onlines or just mash them all together.

For me:

EVE Online + Battlestar Galactica (New Series) + Babylon 5 = Sci-fi-gasm! Very Happy

CCP StevieSG

Posted - 2011.03.30 11:48:00 - [2]
 

Moved to Out of Pod from EVE General.
Good question Flynn!

EVE Online + West World : space cowboys a la Firefly but with killer robots like Terminator + Yul Brynner as Sansha Kuvekai works anyway Very Happy

Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2011.03.30 11:52:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: CCP StevieSG
Moved to Out of Pod from EVE General.
Good question Flynn!

EVE Online + West World : space cowboys a la Firefly but with killer robots like Terminator + Yul Brynner as Sansha Kuvekai works anyway Very Happy


lol, West World, what a classic Movie, need to watch it again. I'm digging your sci-fi-gasm StevieSG Razz

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Posted - 2011.03.30 12:01:00 - [4]
 

EVE+Star Wars, for architecture, costume and ship design, the esthetics and that kickass fleet fight above Coruscant. Forget the cheese that is the script and the supposed comedy elements.

Add to that the plot of Babylon 5 and there would be no galactic all out war no-one ever heard about but layer upon layer of intrigue. In plain english for CCP, no major malfunction that is Faction Warfare. Hire a few writers already.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.03.30 12:29:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 30/03/2011 12:33:23

"EVE-Online" for the universe mechanics, look & feel, most ship types (because quite honestly I'm too used to it) +
"Legend of Galactic Heroes" for the scale of things and other ship types (that was epic in both number of ships involved and the size of named cast, most of which die) +
"Master of Orion 2" for the ship customization part (it was A W E S O M E from that standpoint) +
"Galactic Arms Race" for the technology/modules (genetic algorithms FTW, nigh-endless variety) +
"The 4400" for the character abilities (don't judge me !) +
"Babylon 5" for the storyline (face it, you can't beat B5 there, no chance in hell).

:drool:

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.03.30 13:03:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 30/03/2011 12:33:23

"EVE-Online" for the universe mechanics, look & feel, most ship types (because quite honestly I'm too used to it) +
"Legend of Galactic Heroes" for the scale of things and other ship types (that was epic in both number of ships involved and the size of named cast, most of which die) +
"Master of Orion 2" for the ship customization part (it was A W E S O M E from that standpoint) +
"Galactic Arms Race" for the technology/modules (genetic algorithms FTW, nigh-endless variety) +
"The 4400" for the character abilities (don't judge me !) +
"Babylon 5" for the storyline (face it, you can't beat B5 there, no chance in hell).

:drool:


tbh I would replace (or even add to) the LoGH bit with the Stars Chronicles (AKA Crest/Banner of the Stars).

Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2011.03.30 13:29:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 30/03/2011 12:33:23

"EVE-Online" for the universe mechanics, look & feel, most ship types (because quite honestly I'm too used to it) +
"Legend of Galactic Heroes" for the scale of things and other ship types (that was epic in both number of ships involved and the size of named cast, most of which die) +
"Master of Orion 2" for the ship customization part (it was A W E S O M E from that standpoint) +
"Galactic Arms Race" for the technology/modules (genetic algorithms FTW, nigh-endless variety) +
"The 4400" for the character abilities (don't judge me !) +
"Babylon 5" for the storyline (face it, you can't beat B5 there, no chance in hell).

:drool:


Still need to play 'Master of Orion 2" uggg... need new gaming PC. Also, nice to see more Babylon 5 fans :D

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.03.30 16:17:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Grimpak on 30/03/2011 16:17:21
Originally by: Flynn Fetladral
Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 30/03/2011 12:33:23

"EVE-Online" for the universe mechanics, look & feel, most ship types (because quite honestly I'm too used to it) +
"Legend of Galactic Heroes" for the scale of things and other ship types (that was epic in both number of ships involved and the size of named cast, most of which die) +
"Master of Orion 2" for the ship customization part (it was A W E S O M E from that standpoint) +
"Galactic Arms Race" for the technology/modules (genetic algorithms FTW, nigh-endless variety) +
"The 4400" for the character abilities (don't judge me !) +
"Babylon 5" for the storyline (face it, you can't beat B5 there, no chance in hell).

:drool:


Still need to play 'Master of Orion 2" uggg... need new gaming PC. Also, nice to see more Babylon 5 fans :D
MoO2 runs in any pc built since... 1998?

think older? didn't it run in DOS?

Pr1ncess Alia
Posted - 2011.03.30 16:23:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Grimpak
Edited by: Grimpak on 30/03/2011 16:17:21
Originally by: Flynn Fetladral
Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 30/03/2011 12:33:23

"EVE-Online" for the universe mechanics, look & feel, most ship types (because quite honestly I'm too used to it) +
"Legend of Galactic Heroes" for the scale of things and other ship types (that was epic in both number of ships involved and the size of named cast, most of which die) +
"Master of Orion 2" for the ship customization part (it was A W E S O M E from that standpoint) +
"Galactic Arms Race" for the technology/modules (genetic algorithms FTW, nigh-endless variety) +
"The 4400" for the character abilities (don't judge me !) +
"Babylon 5" for the storyline (face it, you can't beat B5 there, no chance in hell).

:drool:


Still need to play 'Master of Orion 2" uggg... need new gaming PC. Also, nice to see more Babylon 5 fans :D
MoO2 runs in any pc built since... 1998?

think older? didn't it run in DOS?


dosbox fool, dosbox

go get your google on.

I still rock a good 4-6 hour hotseat game vs my buddy once a month or so. Talk about your replay value... 15 years and going strong Razz

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.03.30 16:25:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 30/03/2011 16:28:50

Originally by: Grimpak
MoO2 runs in any pc built since... 1998? think older? didn't it run in DOS?

Came out in '96. Worked perfectly on a 80 MHz CPU with 16 MB of RAM. Game resolution 640x480x256.
Yup, it runs in DOS mode, in fact, the latest unofficial patch only exists for the DOS executable.
If you could find a smartphone with a DOS emulator, you could play MoO2 on it Smile

EDIT : Doesn't DOSBox have a linux build ? Maybe it could work on Android phones...

Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2011.03.30 17:11:00 - [11]
 

Ok, so it wil run on my PC, but I just use my Mac these days. On a side note, have you played Sins of a Solar System? (Sorry bit off topic)

CCP Shiny

Posted - 2011.03.30 17:14:00 - [12]
 

EVE + Ghost in the Shell + The Doomed City = Perfect combination of aesthetics, depth and subversiveness.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.03.30 18:08:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: CCP Shiny
EVE + Ghost in the Shell + The Doomed City = Perfect combination of aesthetics, depth and subversiveness.
EVE with sentient AI's prowling about?

Laughing

CCP Shiny

Posted - 2011.03.30 18:36:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: CCP Shiny on 30/03/2011 18:36:35
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: CCP Shiny
EVE + Ghost in the Shell + The Doomed City = Perfect combination of aesthetics, depth and subversiveness.
EVE with sentient AI's prowling about?

Laughing


What's not to love about that? Very Happy I actually considered throwing BSG into the mix, but the idea of having to deal with a whiny Gaius Baltar while hanging out in my quarters makes my skin crawl.

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.03.30 18:50:00 - [15]
 

EVE Online + Farscape.

I think they would work well together.

Toshiro GreyHawk
Posted - 2011.03.30 19:25:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Toshiro GreyHawk on 30/03/2011 19:33:17
Originally by: Flynn Fetladral
If you could combine science fiction lore from one of the two other following areas (TV Shows, Movies, Books, Anime, or Computer Game) with EVE Onlines in an effort to create your ultimate mashup, possibly for the production of a Sci-Fi series what ones would you pick? You can use the other lore to enhance EVE Onlines or just mash them all together.

For me:

EVE Online + Battlestar Galactica (New Series) + Babylon 5 = Sci-fi-gasm! Very Happy



If I were planning a TV Series or Movie some of the elements of things that I would like to exploit would be:


Star Wars - for it's scope - a galactic stage, it's grit (SW invented grit)

Babylon 5 - For it's plot intricacies and character development

Star Ship Troopers - more the book than the movie - for the concept of fighting bugs, the hive vs. the individual.

Star Trek: TOS - for it's 1960's attitude without the political correctness that plagued much of the rest of SciFi since.

Star Gate: SG Amanda Tapping - for the young Amanda Tapping

Alien(s) 1 & 2 (not 3) - for Ripley, Space Marines and the viciousness of the bugs - but without the racial memory bull ****.

Predator - for it's kick ass Alien - though on a mass scale rather than the lone hunter mode

Battle Star Galactica - for it's acting and realism (more grit) - but without it's bizarre plot twists.


Now - though - I would depart from the Sci Fi Genre ... as there simply are no equivalents to War Movies - and - even though I would be making a SciFi War Movie - it would be more a War Movie that was SciFi in Nature rather than the SciFi efforts that attempt to depict warfare and only succeed relative to each other.

Here - I would include:

All Quiet On The Western Front - For it's breadth and fatalism.

Advance & Retreat - For it's fatalism.

Saving Private Ryan - for it's realism

Band of Brothers - for it's long term character development

The Pacific - for it's unsparing brutality


Lastly - I am hard pressed to think of anything from EVE I would include. It's a good game - but it's a game - not a movie. I find the Nordic Pessimism of it's world outlook unrealistic. I haven't seen it but the title of the fantasy effort Thieves World - strikes me as being at the core of EVE. EVE was developed by pirates for pirates with everyone else just included to provide victims for the pirates to attack. There is no legal system in EVE worthy of the name. The fact that there is actually a much greater game here is a testament to the idea of the Sand Box and the creativity of the players than anything else. This makes a good game - but is utter bull **** as a believable movie. The first thing the faction navies would do - is go out and crush all the damned pirates. That - historically - is what navies have always done. Thus - today - most real world piracy is committed on a small scale by impoverished opportunists (known as fishermen). The ship designs, the game mechanics and the maneuvering system all bear no resemblance to anything remotely believable. As a game - that doesn't matter - as a movie or TV series trying to convey some sense of realism (suspension of disbelief etc) - it doesn't work.



It's just one of those things where movies made from games and games made from movies ... just don't tend to work that well. There may be some exceptions I've over looked but mostly ... the things that make one good don't translate well into the other. Games are participatory and want to be exciting and fun. Movies are passive (you just sit in a chair watching them) and want to be moving emotionally. If there is grunt work in a game - it can't be so bad that people will quit because they actually have to do it - in a movie - the grunt work is all covered in a 10-20 second montage of cut scenes showing someone working - with only the interesting parts included and all the boring, repetitive stuff glossed over.



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shady trader
Posted - 2011.03.30 19:27:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: shady trader on 30/03/2011 19:28:56
Eve for the basic game play. B5 for travel with the ability open a jump point (would there be a ship capable of the bonehead manoeuvre to take out an enemy ship and gate?) any were you wanted and the ability to take other ships with you.

For combat the Honour Harrington series of books,one word Podnoughts Very Happy. I suspect a large fleet capital battle will kill any server currently made (couple hundred ships with one side launching a salvo of 25 thousand separate missiles some warheads, other decoy and jammers, with a reload time under a minute and flight times measured in minutes). Also bomb pumped X ray lasers for long range stand off damage.

The other main sci-fi I would like to see is the space travel method from Path of the Fury (book_. Basically your ship is pulled along though space by an exposed black hole, which you cannot fire around but will eat incoming fire as long as you keep accelerating toward your enemy, game of chicken any one?

The flexibility of aero space/battle space (Battletech) for designing and equipping ships, want 3,000 standard large lasers for the light show or go for a Navel gauss cannon's for the big impact (in your energy amour that is)?

Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.30 20:03:00 - [18]
 

EVE + The Culture I guess, maybe even add a story with the quality of the Night's Dawn Trilogy.

Mens Desire
Posted - 2011.03.30 22:56:00 - [19]
 

eve + duke nukem + the view = gangbang with spaceships

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.03.31 04:50:00 - [20]
 

Eve + The Man From Earth (On Netflix) + B5

I wanted to throw some Honor Harrington in there for the meaningful travel and what would likely make for pretty good combat mechanics (acceleration > raw velocity, meaningful ewar, strong differences between close/long range combat, etc)... but I feel like I don't want to make any political/social statements :)

-Liang

catinboots
Minmatar
Vintage heavy industries
Posted - 2011.03.31 07:28:00 - [21]
 

Umm interesting topic
Sowhat about somethingmore complex like eveonline combined with the foreverwar by j. haldeman (relativity theory. Yeeeahhh)

Or eve online with epicness of homeworld

Marija Vanszar
Caldari
The Warp Pub
Posted - 2011.03.31 09:37:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: CCP Shiny
EVE + Ghost in the Shell + The Doomed City = Perfect combination of aesthetics, depth and subversiveness.


FULLY SUPPORTED!!!

Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2011.03.31 09:54:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: shady trader
Edited by: shady trader on 30/03/2011 19:28:56The flexibility of aero space/battle space (Battletech) for designing and equipping ships, want 3,000 standard large lasers for the light show or go for a Navel gauss cannon's for the big impact (in your energy amour that is)?


OH man, how could I forget Battletech!! Jabus! In fact, the dark political backdrop to the Battletech universe is in some ways very similar to EVE online.

Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
Posted - 2011.03.31 14:13:00 - [24]
 

Eve + Babylon 5 because in both *stuff* happens and you have to deal with the consequences.

Eve + Avatar because when DUST 514 arrives we can go down to jungle planets and blow the crap out of hippy aliens with their spears and arrows Laughing.

Awesome Possum
Original Sin.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
Posted - 2011.03.31 15:05:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Jno Aubrey
Eve + Babylon 5 because in both *stuff* happens and you have to deal with the consequences.



This, J. Michael Straczynski best Straczynski

Phillis Stein
Caldari
Serenity Prime
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2011.03.31 23:35:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Phillis Stein on 31/03/2011 23:35:22
Eve and Bill & Ben = Blob-a -lot

(ask your friendly 50 year old Brit or sub teen youngster if they watched the new version)

Florio
Miniature Giant Space Hamsters
Posted - 2011.04.01 07:27:00 - [27]
 

Remember the original Mass Effect space station with the huge interior space disappearing into a distant haze? That's what I think Eve would greatly benefit from.

After the cold emptiness of flying around in space (even with pretty new nebula and ship paint), the Eve world needs some kind of awe-inspiring environments which incarna has the potential to provide. I look at the sketches of corridors and station concourses and hangars and just feel like smacking the art department with a cricket bat and shouting "Make the roof ten times higher dudes!". This is sci-fi, not a basement simulation.

Nikita Alterana
Kumiho's Smile
Posted - 2011.04.01 10:10:00 - [28]
 

Eve+the Commonwealth Saga

Hamilton just does a great job of painting the dark seedy underbelly to a high tech civilization.

Dray
Caldari
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.04.01 10:23:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Phillis Stein
Edited by: Phillis Stein on 31/03/2011 23:35:22
Eve and Bill & Ben = Blob-a -lot

(ask your friendly 50 year old Brit or sub teen youngster if they watched the new version)



"flobbalobble"
"is he drunk or lagged?"

LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2011.04.01 10:40:00 - [30]
 

1972 Solaris + Phillip K **** - The Cosmic Puppets. I would call it the reality dysfunction war. Humans fight the reality dysfunction with hexagrams from the book of I Ching - Book of Changes. Particularly :-

Hexagram 61 is named 中孚 (zhōng f), "Center Returning". Other variations include "inner truth" and "central return". Its inner trigram is ☱ (兌 du) open = (澤) swamp, and its outer trigram is ☴ (巽 xn) ground = (風) wind.




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