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Kazzzi
Amarr
Heathen Legion
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.03.29 00:25:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Kazzzi on 29/03/2011 00:29:47

Today marks the founding of a new annual contest. A contest to express your hatred and contempt for the Amarr Empire.

This contest is sponsered in whole by my own corporation, Heathen Legion and it's affiliates. We're a combat organization founded by renegade Amarrians and a proud member of the Ushra'Khan alliance. We seek to bring reform to the Amarr Empire by any means necessary and provide aid to those free-thinking Amarrian citizens oppressed by their own tyranical government.

The rules of this contest are simple. Introduce yourself or nominate someone and in five million words or less, describe why you or your nominee stand head and shoulders above the rest in the conflict against the Amarr Empire. Feel free to recount old war stories, tell us of heroic deeds or even provide us with stirring war songs you've composed.

Though the plight of the Matari tribes has been great, this contest is not solely directed to them. Enemies of the Empire of all races and backgrounds are welcome to participate.

Eligibility requirments:

1. Members of Heathen Legion are ineligible, but other members of the Ushra'Khan alliance may enter.
2. You must have been a member of a militia or a capsuleer run corporation prior to today.
3. You must have a record of combat action against Imperial loyalists.
4. Public record must show the Amarr Empire doesn't like you very much. (Exceptions will be made for severely outdated records)

The prizes:

A brand new shiney Revelation class dreadnought. This Revelation was manufactured from blueprints captured from a destroyed Imperial loyalist starbase tower. It will be available to the winner fully fueled in a lowsec system.

The second place runner up in this contest will receive an autographed copy of the holoreel Two Girls, One Pod.

The winner of this contest will be determined by a panel of judges consisting of... me. So yeah, it'll be biased. If I think you're a tool, you probably won't win anything, but hey, there's no entry fee, so it won't hurt to give it a shot. Nominations will close April 20th.

Good luck!



Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.03.29 00:35:00 - [2]
 

I'd like to nominate Vaari, who has done more to ensure disunity among Imperial capsuleers than any outsider ever could.

Lucius Vindictus
Amarr
East Khanid Trading
Khanid Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.03.29 01:16:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
I'd like to nominate Vaari, who has done more to ensure disunity among Imperial capsuleers than any outsider ever could.


Really? I'd say Imperial capsuleers are actually quite united in their disdain for him.

Rytha Main
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.03.29 02:04:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Rytha Main on 29/03/2011 14:21:25
Originally by: Kazzzi

hatred.



Whether someone fights for Amarr or against her, I'd venture to say that any sensible individual would consider this award a stain upon their character if they won.

Were I an individual who struggled with my faith for example, it is instances like this that further propel people away from an organization like U'K. Hatred is the last thing I would want to bind me together with another.

For shame.


Rek Jaiga
Minmatar
Crimson Path
Posted - 2011.03.29 02:27:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Kazzzi
in five million words or less


...oh my...
I wonder if anyone could actually come up with five million words?


Of course if I were still in the Minmatar militia I would say something to the effect of: "I could list many well thought-out reasons why I abhor the Amarr Empire. I could come up with billions of reasons, even: the billions of my brothers and sisters you currently have enslaved"


Ah, it would be very melodramatic and without doubt receive both cheer and hatred. But hate is no longer something I feel (towards the Empire, or anyone else even), and my ideologies have shifted.

Should be interesting writing and smack-talking; I'll watch this thread.

Mizhara Del'thul
Minmatar
Lutinari Syndicate
Electus Matari
Posted - 2011.03.29 03:12:00 - [6]
 

Ah, but hate is such a delicious motivator. Love won't win you any wars. Hate will spur you to new heights of performance.

However, as Kazzzi so eloquently put it, this was done by Heathen Legion and not Ushra'Khan as a whole. Still... I find myself strangely amused and approving of this gesture from Heathen Legion. Maybe I should extend a little more trust and respect towards them, even though I still will show some... care in how I position my ships when surrounded by Amarrians.

Very well done, Heathen Legion.

... oh, and I'm not nominating myself, and am in fact excluding myself from this particular contest. My views of the Empire are well-known and hardly in need of public evaluation nor reinforcement through Amarrian trinkets.

Victoria Stecker
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2011.03.29 03:18:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Rytha Main
Originally by: Kazzzi

hatred.



Whether someone fights for Amarr or against her, I'd venture to say that any sensible individual would consider this award a stain upon their character if they won.

Were I an individual who struggled with my faith for example, it is instances like this that further propel me away from an organization like U'K. Hatred is the last thing I would want to bind me together with another.

For shame.




Victoria can be seen struggling to speak through a fit of giggles.

Your ability to get hung up on a single word and completely miss the point is rivaled only by your willingness to feel superior to those who may despise you.
In case you missed it,

Originally by: Kazzzi
We seek to bring reform to the Amarr Empire by any means necessary and provide aid to those free-thinking Amarrian citizens oppressed by their own tyranical government.


It helps to hate the way something is in order to be driven to fix it. And one can hardly fault the Minmatar for their strong distaste for the Empire. I even know a few that hate it quite deeply - yet have few problems with Amarrians themselves.

However, if it will help you continue to feel morally superior, I could offer to hate you. Don't really have any great reason to besides your allegiance, but I'm sure I can make it work.

Vic returns to her giggling as she cuts comms

Rek Jaiga
Minmatar
Crimson Path
Posted - 2011.03.29 03:22:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Mizhara Del'thul
Love won't win you any wars.

I beg to differ. Love will win the wars by avoiding them in the first place.

ValentinaDLM
Minmatar
Ubi Concordia Ibi Victoria
Posted - 2011.03.29 05:02:00 - [9]
 

In a way, The hatred of the Minmatar Republic is like that of a child rebelling against the well intended, if stern love of their parents, The Amarr Empire. Perhaps one day, they will grow out of it, I know I rebelled against mine, but in the end I knew that any of their tough love was still that...love.

But of course I have had limited contact with my parents since I stopped being loyal to the Mandate, but I know all the times I rebelled against what I thought was their tyranny as a child was just well intentioned tough love, and I am thankful for it. The Matari people should be a bit more grateful.

So Love exists along with the hate in this conflict, and this exercise in hate, seems like an attempt to validate an insecure person, feeling guilty perhaps over their immature choices. I do hope, that When Master Kuvakei decides to show the Empire and Republic what unity feels like, that they will finally understand there was never a need for conflict.

That being said....I am a sucker for free stuff and I shoot at people from the 24th crusade a fair bit, so why not give me a revelation? And my Standing with the Empire isn't even that high after doing a bit of work for True Creations and True Power.

Lu'ay al Din
Amarr
1st Praetorian Guard
Posted - 2011.03.29 07:34:00 - [10]
 

Such madness! I will pray for those that want to compete in such an abomination of a contest. In this summit His Sword can only be words to strike at your ideas, outcast. May they pierce your shield of hatred, although I fear it cannot. This poem is for you:

Quote:
His Empire.

My eyes beheld a sky one night,
It seems so long ago,
A perfectly painted portrait,
Be-speckled with blue and gold.

As I sit and ponder more,
It strikes me that you are there,
And it is truly your simple beauty,
That gives the stars their perfect glare.


Kahar Dex
Amarr
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2011.03.29 09:22:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Kahar Dex on 29/03/2011 13:57:59
Edited by: Kahar Dex on 29/03/2011 13:56:58
Originally by: Victoria Stecker
Originally by: Rytha Main
Originally by: Kazzzi

hatred.


Whether someone fights for Amarr or against her, I'd venture to say that any sensible individual would consider this award a stain upon their character if they won.
Were I an individual who struggled with my faith for example, it is instances like this that further propel me away from an organization like U'K. Hatred is the last thing I would want to bind me together with another.

For shame.



Victoria can be seen struggling to speak through a fit of giggles.
Your ability to get hung up on a single word and completely miss the point is rivaled only by your willingness to feel superior to those who may despise you.
In case you missed it,
Originally by: Kazzzi
We seek to bring reform to the Amarr Empire by any means necessary and provide aid to those free-thinking Amarrian citizens oppressed by their own tyranical government.




You would not be laughing if you knew how utterly ignorant you sound.

Those that lead in hatred are the least qualified to bring about "reform" and even less credible to be calling anyone tyrannical when you follow a leader who usurped authority, used the election process to get in power and then in turn dissolved parliament and declared himself Sanmatar.

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.03.29 11:03:00 - [12]
 

The enemies of Amarr are not motivated by a desire to create a better world, but by hatred of the existing order.

Because they primarily seek destruction rather than construction, they collectively have little idea what it is that they want to replace the Empire with.

So those who support them should beware of what will happen should they ever win.

As the old saying goes - under conditions of peace the warlike man attacks himself.

Ratokus
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.03.29 11:10:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Ratokus on 29/03/2011 11:10:18
This one is entitled - "Kazzzi"

There was a young pilot from U K,
Who used to hate C V A,
He blew up their ships,
He blew them to bits,
Then smacked in local that they were ghey!

(UK)

Lyn Farel
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.03.29 12:42:00 - [14]
 

I agree with admiral Blake.

I wonder if it would be suitable to register the Knighthood for this contest, to show that we have done as much as good than the harm you have done yourself to reform the Empire.

But the answer is obvious.

Mizhara Del'thul
Minmatar
Lutinari Syndicate
Electus Matari
Posted - 2011.03.29 15:06:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Rodj Blake
Because they primarily seek destruction rather than construction, they collectively have little idea what it is that they want to replace the Empire with.


Sweetie, who says it has be replaced? Burn the entire thing down. I very much doubt New Eden in general would care if your ashes rained onto graves on every Amarrian world. Well, a few traders from the State would probably be a bit miffed.

But on a slightly more realistic note...

Exceedingly few of us seek your utter destruction. Not even I can claim that particular lunacy, but why should we care what we'd replace the current travesty with? You and your vaunted Empress refuse to free our people - indeed even manage to preach Reclamation - so there is very little choice remaining. Kill enough of you that you realize that your faith isn't quite worth the bloodshed you're causing in it's name.

I'm leaving it up to the very few Empire loyalists that have a lick of common sense to realize that slavery is not a sustainable practice with the financial losses this incurs on the Empire and the Holders, along with the stagnation of Amarr culture and society. Those people will sooner or later pull their heads out of their... faith... and actually do something about it instead of crying about being 'liberals'. Once that happens, I think you zealots and fanatics will find yourselves quite outnumbered, and I'd leave it up to you boys and girls to figure out what to replace the Empire with.

Personally, I'm just comin' for my people. Screw the rest of you bastards.

Lyn Farel
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.03.29 15:19:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Mizhara Del'thul
Kill enough of you


Clarify, please.

Also, what makes you think the liberals have done nothing ? Your imagination ?

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.03.29 15:21:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Mizhara Del'thul
You and your vaunted Empress refuse to free our people - indeed even manage to preach Reclamation - so there is very little choice remaining. Kill enough of you that you realize that your faith isn't quite worth the bloodshed you're causing in it's name.



You may have missed the part where she did indeed order the release of a large number of Minmatar slaves.

And what happened to them? Out of those who made the mistake of going to the Republic, the lucky ones ended up in fetid shanty towns and the unlucky ones found themselves persecuted or killed for their beliefs.

Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
Vanguard Imperium
Posted - 2011.03.29 17:50:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Lyn Farel

...I wonder if it would be suitable to register the Knighthood for this contest...


My thoughts exactly.




Aldrith Shutaq
Amarr
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.03.29 17:59:00 - [19]
 

Oh shush you crabby woman, we're trying to fix things.

And Lyn, stop pointing out things like that, it opens the door for people to agree with you!

Victoria Stecker
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2011.03.29 21:33:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Silas Vitalia
Originally by: Lyn Farel

...I wonder if it would be suitable to register the Knighthood for this contest...


My thoughts exactly.




There's a reason KotMC is my favorite bunch of loyalists to rub elbows with when we're not shooting each other.

Lyn Farel
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.03.29 22:46:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Lyn Farel on 29/03/2011 22:46:53
Originally by: Aldrith Shutaq
And Lyn, stop pointing out things like that, it opens the door for people to agree with you!


Well, I am glad Ms Vitalia agrees with me, though she should have quoted the whole sentence to get the actual sense of it.

Mirabi Tiane
Posted - 2011.03.29 22:58:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Mizhara Del'thul
You and your vaunted Empress refuse to free our people - indeed even manage to preach Reclamation - so there is very little choice remaining. Kill enough of you that you realize that your faith isn't quite worth the bloodshed you're causing in it's name.



You may have missed the part where she did indeed order the release of a large number of Minmatar slaves.

And what happened to them? Out of those who made the mistake of going to the Republic, the lucky ones ended up in fetid shanty towns and the unlucky ones found themselves persecuted or killed for their beliefs.

Ms. Sarum released only those people who had at least eight generations of lifelong slavery behind them, and she offered the Republic no forewarning. Her decree was nothing more than a petty prank intended to fuel statements like yours.
What about the people who still remember how to live free? What about the countless billions the Empire would enslave as soon as they had the chance to do so? You cannot be permitted to go around capturing people, breaking them, and then cobbling them back together into the shape of a crutch for your economy and your conscience.

Kithrus
Amarr
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2011.03.29 23:09:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Kithrus on 29/03/2011 23:10:47
I am sorry to see this happen not because I regret the death of those who dare strike the Empire but the long term the Matari as a whole ignore.

Change does not come over night and more so to the Amarr. The Empress in her wisdom to prevent utter chaos is bringing about small changes over time for the good of the Empire and those she shares borders with.

To "force" change now will serve no purpose but war and one saddly you can not win.

If you seek to prove yourself better then your former masters then stand up like an equal and work with us instead of beating your chests like beasts.

I expected so much more from you all.

Kor Shivat
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.03.30 00:13:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Mirabi Tiane
Ms. Sarum released only those people who had at least eight generations of lifelong slavery behind them, and she offered the Republic no forewarning. Her decree was nothing more than a petty prank intended to fuel statements like yours.


The release of several hundred million slaves is a "petty prank?"

Rytha Main
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.03.30 02:58:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Rytha Main on 30/03/2011 02:59:31
Originally by: Mizhara Del'thul

I'm leaving it up to the very few Empire loyalists that have a lick of common sense to realize that slavery is not a sustainable practice with the financial losses this incurs on the Empire and the Holders, along with the stagnation of Amarr culture and society. Those people will sooner or later pull their heads out of their... faith... and actually do something about it instead of crying about being 'liberals'. Once that happens, I think you zealots and fanatics will find yourselves quite outnumbered, and I'd leave it up to you boys and girls to figure out what to replace the Empire with.

Personally, I'm just comin' for my people. Screw the rest of you bastards.

This is precisely why the Faithful persist, because it is statements like this which further validate the scriptures. They speak of the non-believer having darkened minds and not seeing the way of grace. You are fully ignorant about Amarr society and culture, as well as our faith.

Slavery doesn't exist to fuel our economy. It's soul purpose is to bring those who do not seek God on their own into a position of humility to recognize their need for the divine. I know not why the Gallente and Matari rebels continue to fuel rhetoric based on falsehood. If it were up to the Amarr, the galaxy would be free of slavery tomorrow! But that isn't the case because the wayward children continue to rebel. Reaching for lives of proper moral standards and faith in God would mean a galaxy at peace within themselves, with each other, and most importantly with the divine.

We labor and toil to cultivate the spirit of men and bring men unto the Salvation promised to them by a God who longs for all to be brought back into the fold. Some men are humble, and seek out the divine, while others are too far gone being slaves to their own pride. And those who actively seek the kind of hatred which exists in this thread, then I daresay God is justified in visiting vengeance upon wicked.

Kahar Dex
Amarr
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2011.03.30 03:19:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Ratokus
Edited by: Ratokus on 29/03/2011 11:10:18
This one is entitled - "Kazzzi"

There was a young pilot from U K,
Who used to hate C V A,
He blew up their ships,
He blew them to bits,
Then smacked in local that they were ghey!

(UK)


Is this the kind of behavior, U'K takes pride in?

Kade Jeekin
Kinda'Shujaa
Posted - 2011.03.30 08:59:00 - [27]
 

Given that Kazzzi, CEO of the Heathen Legion, was a member of PIE Inc, then I'm sure they understand the culture and mindset of the Amarr all too well. Just because they reject it does not mean they don't understand it, the contrary, I feel.

Rytha Main
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.03.30 09:17:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Kade Jeekin
Given that Kazzzi, CEO of the Heathen Legion, was a member of PIE Inc, then I'm sure they understand the culture and mindset of the Amarr all too well. Just because they reject it does not mean they don't understand it, the contrary, I feel.



I'm sorry, but being in PIE and not passing the Initiate stage does not constitute a person with a credible understanding of the Amarr faith, society, and culture. And given the content of his original post, I'd say your argument holds even less weight.

Kahar Dex
Amarr
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2011.03.30 09:20:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Rodj Blake
The enemies of Amarr are not motivated by a desire to create a better world, but by hatred of the existing order.

Because they primarily seek destruction rather than construction, they collectively have little idea what it is that they want to replace the Empire with.

So those who support them should beware of what will happen should they ever win.

As the old saying goes - under conditions of peace the warlike man attacks himself.


The profundity of this statement, I pray, does not go unheeded or underestimated.

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.03.30 10:18:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Mirabi Tiane
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Mizhara Del'thul
You and your vaunted Empress refuse to free our people - indeed even manage to preach Reclamation - so there is very little choice remaining. Kill enough of you that you realize that your faith isn't quite worth the bloodshed you're causing in it's name.



You may have missed the part where she did indeed order the release of a large number of Minmatar slaves.

And what happened to them? Out of those who made the mistake of going to the Republic, the lucky ones ended up in fetid shanty towns and the unlucky ones found themselves persecuted or killed for their beliefs.

Ms. Sarum released only those people who had at least eight generations of lifelong slavery behind them, and she offered the Republic no forewarning. Her decree was nothing more than a petty prank intended to fuel statements like yours.
What about the people who still remember how to live free? What about the countless billions the Empire would enslave as soon as they had the chance to do so? You cannot be permitted to go around capturing people, breaking them, and then cobbling them back together into the shape of a crutch for your economy and your conscience.


That simply demonstrates that the Minmatar are not interested in peace.

You make a good-willed gesture towards them, and they throw it back at you.


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