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Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.16 23:07:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
I really hope the new and improved new forums have an "ignore" feature.
As do I.Smile It's much needed. Alternately, I'd be just as pleased with a properly administered intelligence test or even a standard of judgment to determine worth of content which could be used to eliminate a ton of posts.

Of course in the later they’d have to hire on another moderator, or more, just to keep up.

-Windjammer

Marcella Moreau
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.17 16:02:00 - [92]
 

I'm taking a wait and see posture right now. Because I joined before the election, I couldn't vote and rightly so--no complaints there. I think that if the Goons and their allies in the CSM understand that they now represent all of the EVE playerbase--big nullsec alliances, small nullseccers, wildcatters, lowsec pirates, pvpers, and dwellers, and yes, hisec carebears as well, then they'll do ok. If not and this is nothing more than an elaborate Goon prank, then from what I understand about the CSM there's very little real damage they can do. The CSM has no actually authority as far as setting game policies is concerned--it merely acts as an intermediary and advisory body between the players and CCP with both groups being able to ignore CSM if they feel the need to do so. CCP doesn't have to follow the CSM's recommendations and we players do not have to go through the CSM to express our ideas, recommendations, or concerns to CCP.

Basically, it's up to the Mittani and the other Goons as to how they want to shape the CSM. If they're truly interested in representing the interests of the entire EVE community, then that's great. If not, don't worry, no real damage will be done as this CSM will be nothing more than a series of "high level meetings with low level thinking."

Joane Wilder
Posted - 2011.04.20 05:48:00 - [93]
 

Mittani and other prominient goons have stated that their goal is destroy eve. See the original threadnaught. They have not been able to actually do it in game and this is the last place that they can try to destroy it.

Remember you get what you pay for.

But tbh the goons of today are not the goons of 2007 so I am not quite ready to condemn Mittens and co. But I feel that I may be proven correct in my assumption that they are still on that endeavor.

Jessie42
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.04.20 11:31:00 - [94]
 

Literally controlling your game~

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2011.04.20 15:56:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: LordElfa
The characters that the goons play in EVE are not who they are in real life


Beg to differ.
Goons leader plays an ******** and also said himself he's one in real life.

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2011.04.20 15:58:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero
I'd be willing to sacrifice an ignore feature if we got an intelligence test that was required before people could post. Cool


But then we wouldn't be able to read any crap from you anymore. Unless you cheat and let your 4 year old nephew take the test for you. ( Which I suspect will happen )

Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2011.04.20 18:51:00 - [97]
 

As much as i dislike the way the Mittani and others campaigned for their CSM slots i am certainly willing to sit back and give them a chance to prove themselves now the dust is settling and actual work is getting done.

Who knows, we may actually be pleasantly surprised, which would be nice Razz

Tarikan
Minmatar
Hardcore p0wnography
Posted - 2011.04.26 01:21:00 - [98]
 

as i do recall, the GOONS have probably been the ones to contribute the most to this game in making it become the eve you play now.

ah yes, a good number of occasions and conflict between the Goons and CCP do fit this statement.

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.26 08:04:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Killer Gandry
Originally by: LordElfa
The characters that the goons play in EVE are not who they are in real life


Beg to differ.
Goons leader plays an ******** and also said himself he's one in real life.



At the risk of assuming that you're not just trolling... we've already been over the many logical fallacies this sort of claim is based on.

You've added a few more.
We've got the Anecdotal Fallacy, the Biased Sample Fallacy and the fallacy of Hasty Generalization. All in all they're fairly basic population-dynamics fallacies that are quite easy to learn, identify, and thereby avoid. These are cognitive skills that your average 12 year old can learn, at least once they pass the threshold between concrete and abstract thinking. So it should be a simple matter for any adult to master logical thinking along this axis and make sloppy, fallacious rationalizations literally un-thinkable.

If they actually want to, that is.

Habaticus
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.27 02:47:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero

At the risk of assuming that you're not just trolling...[quote



No Zero, he's not trolling - we leave that to you.

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.27 23:28:00 - [101]
 

Ooooh, meta trolling, nifty. Trolling me in order to lie and claim I'm trolling. How very edgy. Of course, it'd be trivially easy show that I was wrong. Ya know, if I was, and you weren't trolling.



killerco
Gallente
Incompertus INC
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.04.30 08:57:00 - [102]
 

What people might forget is that the CSM has no real power! If CCP says NO its NO and their is not a damm thing anybody can do about it Cool (beside leaving the game ofc)!

Victor Dathar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.04.30 13:31:00 - [103]
 

Why are mummy and daddy arguing? Crying or Very sad

Scooter McCabe
Posted - 2011.05.28 08:04:00 - [104]
 

So will Titans finally become cost effective? Oh and will Mittens bring back the area effect for Doomsday Weapons, I know how much he loved that.

raney ilara
Posted - 2011.06.04 21:52:00 - [105]
 

Quote:
So the Goons and NC control the CSM


I don't see the problem; you've got goons to represent 0.0 and NC to rrepresent high sec.


Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.05 08:41:00 - [106]
 

Who are the "NC"?

Darcy D'Spledide
Posted - 2011.06.05 14:56:00 - [107]
 

Is there a simple, hard-and-fast list of what the CSM has done?
Not minutes, not notes or suggestions.
A bullet-pointed list of in-game stuff that the CSM has had a hand in.

Zelda Wei
Caldari
New Horizon Trade Exchange
Posted - 2011.06.20 11:20:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: Darcy D'Spledide
Is there a simple, hard-and-fast list of what the CSM has done?
Not minutes, not notes or suggestions.
A bullet-pointed list of in-game stuff that the CSM has had a hand in.


This just about sums it all up.

Originally by: The Mittani
i ate a bucket full of icelandic lobsters last night and what came out of my ass this morning looked like the end of eve~


Abesch Klaridon
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:38:00 - [109]
 

tut power block.. ****s .. **** off

Captain Torgo
The Geedunk Expedition
Posted - 2011.06.22 04:47:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: LordElfa

...and if they do screw us all, well, that will be fun too so suck it up, this isn't WoW after all.


Well, at least they can't possibly do any worse than previous CSMs
*cough*Larkonis*Mazz*Vuk Lau*Ankh*cough*


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