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Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
Posted - 2011.03.26 17:45:00 - [31]
 

NC have a confused idea on how CSM works anyway, its not like CCP go "ok guys we have this idea, you guys vote if you want it", if it was this 'controlling campaigning' would make sense. Considering it is "ok guys tell us what you think the issues are, even though we already know and tbh would rather not listen to people who spent the last 5 years trying to NAP everything".

Historically speaking you can almost guarantee not one CSM from NC will have any effect on EVE, but you never know maybe CCP would like the advice of 5 year old insecure kids this time around ;)

Aineko Macx
Posted - 2011.03.26 17:50:00 - [32]
 

That result is kind of disappointing Neutral

CSM5 best CSM?

Shatana Fulfairas
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Posted - 2011.03.26 17:50:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
It's a filibuster smorgasbord.

CSM6 will be the single most ineffectual one yet with a vast majority only interested in maintaining the horrendously broken status quo.

Whomever had issues with the lame-duck status of the CSM before, wait 'til you get a load of this one Very Happy



I agree with this

Ive got nothing against most of the CSM guys but with Mittani as lead we have no hope on this CSM 6 of getting anything of use out of it... Its a shame to see him as lead, because he doesn't represent the player base, he is in it to get out of it what he can for himself he doesnt care about anybody but him, And said as much on his CSM radio interview on NER (New Eden Radio download is avaiable)

Well done to the others and hope you can still try to make some use out of it even with moron as your lead

White Tree
Gallente
Broski Federation
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2011.03.26 17:51:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: White Tree on 26/03/2011 17:51:03
Originally by: Kalle Demos
NC have a confused idea on how CSM works anyway, its not like CCP go "ok guys we have this idea, you guys vote if you want it", if it was this 'controlling campaigning' would make sense. Considering it is "ok guys tell us what you think the issues are, even though we already know and tbh would rather not listen to people who spent the last 5 years trying to NAP everything".

Historically speaking you can almost guarantee not one CSM from NC will have any effect on EVE, but you never know maybe CCP would like the advice of 5 year old insecure kids this time around ;)


Hello Kalle Deimos be my irl boyfriend

EnderCapitalG
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.26 17:55:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Kalle Demos
NC have a confused idea on how CSM works anyway, its not like CCP go "ok guys we have this idea, you guys vote if you want it", if it was this 'controlling campaigning' would make sense. Considering it is "ok guys tell us what you think the issues are, even though we already know and tbh would rather not listen to people who spent the last 5 years trying to NAP everything".

Historically speaking you can almost guarantee not one CSM from NC will have any effect on EVE, but you never know maybe CCP would like the advice of 5 year old insecure kids this time around ;)


You still post?

Can you get banned on the rest of the forums, please?

Puss Bag
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.26 18:02:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: SamuraiJack
Originally by: Sema Min
Well, the Mittani running the CSM.
We're f***ed


Yep. Someone who lies, cheats, steals, scams and said in his CSM interview. "anyone who votes for me is an idiot!"

Kiss goodbye to the CSM doing anything useful this term.

**** Goons.


U mad bro?

Karadion
Posted - 2011.03.26 18:06:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Kalle Demos
NC have a confused idea on how CSM works anyway, its not like CCP go "ok guys we have this idea, you guys vote if you want it", if it was this 'controlling campaigning' would make sense. Considering it is "ok guys tell us what you think the issues are, even though we already know and tbh would rather not listen to people who spent the last 5 years trying to NAP everything".

Historically speaking you can almost guarantee not one CSM from NC will have any effect on EVE, but you never know maybe CCP would like the advice of 5 year old insecure kids this time around ;)
Hi Bismaru. White Tree already proposed to you but in case that fails, will you be my online boyfriend?

POSgunter
Posted - 2011.03.26 18:07:00 - [38]
 

Well it wasnt rocket science that you could rig the votes. every account have up to 3 21-day friend trails if each one of these trail accounts purchese a one month subscription the account recive 30 day game time.

So there you have it put 3x30d on your main account by creating 3 friend-trail account with 21d + 30d for same price as 3x1 month sub payment (afaik), + now you have 4 votes.

Hope ccp will now invalidate votes created this way, wich i doubt they will, they will rather have a broken game with one side massively getting advantages like (moon min exploit, all technium moons, unexplainable reimbursement of capitals and supercapitals, unexplainable spawnage of supercapitals, node-killing exploits) list goes but hey atleast they dont hide it.

ModeratedToSilence
Posted - 2011.03.26 18:11:00 - [39]
 

Heh. The tears in here are ridiculous.

1. If ccp allow votes to pass then its not fraud. Remember CCP are governance, judiciary and legislative.
2. The votes are perfectly representative of those who chose to vote. If you could not persuade your friends and allies to vote for you then that is entirely your problem.
3. 0.0 players have more time and (much) more ingame assets tied up in this game. They care more. CSM5 showed blatant ignorance to the needs of 0.0 and the result is that 0.0 mobilised.
4. 0.0 alliances do not want the status quo. sov is broken. pos warfare is still broken. ship balance is broken. income vs risk is broken. logistics effort vs reward is broken. This CSM is essentially unified in its desire to balance these things.

Keep crying your irrational tears of anti goonie sentiment, after all that's what those ****ers live on.


White Tree
Gallente
Broski Federation
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2011.03.26 18:15:00 - [40]
 

As I have stated before, you'd be surprised how many issues that relate to hisec or lowsec players also relate to nullsec players. There is no need for this divisive nature to exist. Restrain your alarism, please.

AlleyKat
Gallente
The Unwanted.
Posted - 2011.03.26 18:35:00 - [41]
 

No females this time.

This is not a good sign.

Jagga Spikes
Minmatar
Spikes Chop Shop
Posted - 2011.03.26 18:59:00 - [42]
 

give them a chance. there'll be plenty of time to bury them later.

Garheade
Amarr
Aideron Robotics
Posted - 2011.03.26 18:59:00 - [43]
 

Well, there goes the neighborhood.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.03.26 19:22:00 - [44]
 

This will be an interesting CSM term, to say the least :)

SXyWhile
Gallente
Echo Roaming Industries
Posted - 2011.03.26 19:32:00 - [45]
 

How did Elise not win ? I am outraged at the fail in this community.

- S

LegendaryFrog
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.26 19:54:00 - [46]
 

Results summary: 'heh' Smile

Lieutenant Longjohns
Jita Knitting Club
Posted - 2011.03.26 20:30:00 - [47]
 

The fact that The Mittani received such an overwhelming majority is indicative that many beyond the "voting block" were supportive of his election platform.

The haters are going to hate and claim hacks, scams, bias, massive block voting but, in the end, the results speak for themselves.

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.03.26 20:40:00 - [48]
 

Why does it feel like the Republicans won?

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2011.03.26 20:40:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: SamuraiJack
Originally by: Sema Min
Well, the Mittani running the CSM.
We're f***ed


Yep. Someone who lies, cheats, steals, scams and said in his CSM interview. "anyone who votes for me is an idiot!"

Kiss goodbye to the CSM doing anything useful this term.

**** Goons.


are you surprised to see this behavior from goons Laughing

Kallista Naari
Posted - 2011.03.26 20:42:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Sader Rykane
Why does it feel like the Republicans won?


I was going to say, why does it feel like the democrats won?

ha

Rixiu
The Inuits
Posted - 2011.03.26 20:58:00 - [51]
 

Hurray. Now we have a CSM who will try to make eve into a blobbers dream. Awesome.

Sirhan Blixt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.26 21:10:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Marconus Orion
Try not to **** up the progress CSM 5 did too fast ok?

Progress? Heh. That's not the word I would use.

I would like to take this opportunity to state that I am not an employee, associate, officer, or contractor for or to the Diebold Corporation, and have no present or past relationship with Diebold Corporation on either a professional or casual basis. I have not, and do not, receive any sort of compensation or renumeration from the Diebold Corporation whatsoever.

With that said:

CRY SOME MORE

LtCol Laurentius
Caldari
Digital Fury Corporation
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.03.26 21:24:00 - [53]
 

I see the NC have the majority vote. And all 9 CSM members come from 0.0 alliances, with 0.0 priorities. Well it will be intersting to watch, but personally I have very low hopes of CSM6 not pushing EVE in the wrong direction. Oh well, looking forward to CSM 7.

Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.26 22:16:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Kalle Demos
NC have a confused idea on how CSM works

I don't know what the NC thinks about the CSM but Goons were concerned about the lack of input that the last CSM gave CCP on matters relating to nullsec. When CCP starts blabbering about deleting jump bridges and nobody on the CSM says a word about how stupid that would be then there is a problem. Mittens and Vile Rat know they aren't going to be able to make any sweeping changes through the CSM (just read their campaign threads where they both state that explicitly) but they will be able to speak up and provide feedback when CCP wants to do something dumb.

Sethose Olderon
Gryphon Chancellery
Gryphon League
Posted - 2011.03.26 22:18:00 - [55]
 

The only thing I have to say about this is, "What a joke." The CSM elections are supposed to be about democracy and the player's will. I think this election proves that neither of those principles are in play.

I believe, to quote something famous, "Something is rotten in the State of Denmark."

Fuujin
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.26 22:26:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Sethose Olderon
The only thing I have to say about this is, "What a joke." The CSM elections are supposed to be about democracy and the player's will. I think this election proves that neither of those principles are in play.

I believe, to quote something famous, "Something is rotten in the State of Denmark."


Yeah, how dare they be declared winners just because they got the most votes out of the 15% of the elligible accounts that actually bothered to vote! That is so undemocratic.

Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.26 22:29:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Sethose Olderon
The only thing I have to say about this is, "What a joke."

Apparently that wasn't the only thing you had to say about it. Nice conspiracy theories, though.

Bel Amar
Amarr
Sudden Buggery
Situation: Normal
Posted - 2011.03.26 22:35:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: LtCol Laurentius
I see the NC have the majority vote. And all 9 CSM members come from 0.0 alliances, with 0.0 priorities. Well it will be intersting to watch, but personally I have very low hopes of CSM6 not pushing EVE in the wrong direction. Oh well, looking forward to CSM 7.


My fear is that a CSM focused on a small aspect of the game rather than the game as a whole will be marginalized, and more easily ignored by CCP. If the new CSM doesn't manage to present a "we care about the whole game, not just 0.0" face, then the CCP staff who are already inclined to question the utility of the CSM will feel justified in ignoring it, and the players will get /no/ voice in some areas.


Rainus Max
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.03.26 22:49:00 - [59]
 

CCP wont allow the "NC heavy" CSM to force the issues over to a pure 0.0 stage. The CSM help point out the main problems and areas CCP need to concentrate on, it is then down to CCP to choose what they work on.

The CSM does not dictate CCP policy or actions, you want a proper CSM election with a decent result? Then you need to vote, tell your corps the importantace of voting, hell tell noobs and strangers the importance of voting.

This result is not the fault of the 0.0 alliances it sits solely with the 85% of the population that DIDNT vote.

Bel Amar
Amarr
Sudden Buggery
Situation: Normal
Posted - 2011.03.26 23:04:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Rainus Max
CCP wont allow the "NC heavy" CSM to force the issues over to a pure 0.0 stage.


That was somewhat my point.


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