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Latino lover
Minmatar
SEX WITH PENYS
Posted - 2011.03.30 13:03:00 - [121]
 


silent uk
Amarr
Sacred Templars
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2011.03.30 14:03:00 - [122]
 

Edited by: silent uk on 30/03/2011 14:03:41
Come on guys, its got nothing to do with RATs, or hurting anyones wallets, this whole thing is a solution to... the blob.

See 0.0 will be so devalued and pointless, that players will simply go back to empire, maybe low sec to do incursions, so there will be less people in 0.0, and with less in 0.0, the blob will get smaller.

Yep, gotta hand it to CCP, this certainly will beat the blob.

CCP Adida


Gallente
C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.03.30 15:20:00 - [123]
 

trolling post removed

Bagehi
Caldari
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2011.03.30 18:34:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: silent uk
Yep, gotta hand it to CCP, this certainly will beat the blob.

I've heard there are PVP bots to solve that.

D'murr Pilru
Amarr
Tz Industries
RED Citizens
Posted - 2011.03.30 19:39:00 - [125]
 

Edited by: D''murr Pilru on 30/03/2011 19:40:23
this game is fuked up and this is the first sign of apoclypse EVE is going down. Next you will see the SHOP and after that F2P!!! You want more isk? no problem buy from eve shop a card for 15 days that Will double your boounty!!! Feel like owned at pvp? no problem buy skill points from EVE SHOP NOW!!! and own the bastard...
Really CCP check out the list of dead mmorpg's and buy a place there NOW its AT shop!!!

lisa herrick
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.03.30 21:04:00 - [126]
 

doesnt look like too many peaople are infact against this change, either from this or other posts.

i think this is a great change, but dont let that stop you all from bearing arms.

Mutant Caldari
Caldari
Percussive Diplomacy
The Phoenix. Consortium
Posted - 2011.03.31 15:09:00 - [127]
 

Originally by: D'murr Pilru
Edited by: D''murr Pilru on 30/03/2011 19:40:23
this game is fuked up and this is the first sign of apoclypse EVE is going down. Next you will see the SHOP and after that F2P!!! You want more isk? no problem buy from eve shop a card for 15 days that Will double your boounty!!! Feel like owned at pvp? no problem buy skill points from EVE SHOP NOW!!! and own the bastard...
Really CCP check out the list of dead mmorpg's and buy a place there NOW its AT shop!!!

Get a better translator or English teacher before you try to tell us(And CCP) that the apocalypse is coming, buying SP for ISK is coming and F2P is coming. This nerf is fine and much needed, let the carebears whine all they want. Laughing

Mr Peanut420
Caldari
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.03.31 19:51:00 - [128]
 

Don't be fooled, many many people are against this change. Many alliances put a lot of resources into developing space that anoms made worth while. This was CCPs stated intention, to populate 0.0. Now CCP is going to go and change the rules and make those investments worthless. That is going to seriously harm the integrity of the game and drive people away.

The casual pvper does not get moon goo or tax money or anything. They rat for their isk and pay real money for their accounts. They can't take space or start wars, only people with supercaps can do that. All they do is find another game, cause this one became too annoying.

Marconus Orion
Amarr
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.03.31 20:23:00 - [129]
 


Mutant Caldari
Caldari
Percussive Diplomacy
The Phoenix. Consortium
Posted - 2011.03.31 20:31:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Mr Peanut420
Don't be fooled, many many people are against this change. Many alliances put a lot of resources into developing space that anoms made worth while. This was CCPs stated intention, to populate 0.0. Now CCP is going to go and change the rules and make those investments worthless. That is going to seriously harm the integrity of the game and drive people away.

The casual pvper does not get moon goo or tax money or anything. They rat for their isk and pay real money for their accounts. They can't take space or start wars, only people with supercaps can do that. All they do is find another game, cause this one became too annoying.

As long as they give me all their stuff before they leave, I am all for it.

DurrHurrDurr
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.03.31 21:15:00 - [131]
 

Excuse me while my alliance moves into a -1.00 belt region and bots until the end of time.

Ahahaha, oh wait, we already did that. Have fun anyone who's not in Venal/Delve/Fountain/Curse/Stain.

Lt banaan
Amarr
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2011.03.31 21:43:00 - [132]
 

Probably most of the ones that agree with this change are high sec mission runners or low sec pirates, or people that are allready in true 0.0 sec systems, ccp is doing his best to reduce lag by making people quit playing with these dumb changes. it makes no sense what so ever to do this, just make those systems with better plexes or so but leave anoms as it is.

Kastio Delago
Amarr
The Program
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2011.03.31 21:43:00 - [133]
 

I think the proposed change is a good thing.

0.0 space used to be battle hardened vets looking for epic fights and for the most part being satisfied even if they lost because it was good fun. Now DRF bots their boats, NC can call forth 1000 man blobs via gold plated jump bridges fueled by moon goo, cloaked AFKers can shut down an entire system of ratters, PLDDOSTSWTFPWN spai, and any alliance can throw a dot at the end of their name and with the help of a few supercaps, take over entire regions.

CCP made changes to 0.0 to bring players to this inhospitable area and give them a fighting chance but they failed to comprehend that by applying the easy button to the situation, they've created a monster. Players might not like it but CCP is going to nerf things in this game because the players are forcing CCP's hand.

We want 1000 man fleet battles with no lag.

CCP can't deliver and their solution is to cut off the supply of isk to the average player so they are less likely to join a 1000 man lagfest in 0.0 space.

Ask any player from 06 and younger what it was like to lose your PVP ship (you brought T2 MODS?!? are you ****ing nuts!?!) in a battle and how hard you had to work to get that back. I say nerf it, nerf it all. Then we'll see....

DurrHurrDurr
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.03.31 21:45:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Kastio Delago
I think the proposed change is a good thing.

0.0 space used to be battle hardened vets looking for epic fights and for the most part being satisfied even if they lost because it was good fun. Now DRF bots their boats, NC can call forth 1000 man blobs via gold plated jump bridges fueled by moon goo, cloaked AFKers can shut down an entire system of ratters, PLDDOSTSWTFPWN spai, and any alliance can throw a dot at the end of their name and with the help of a few supercaps, take over entire regions.

CCP made changes to 0.0 to bring players to this inhospitable area and give them a fighting chance but they failed to comprehend that by applying the easy button to the situation, they've created a monster. Players might not like it but CCP is going to nerf things in this game because the players are forcing CCP's hand.

We want 1000 man fleet battles with no lag.

CCP can't deliver and their solution is to cut off the supply of isk to the average player so they are less likely to join a 1000 man lagfest in 0.0 space.

Ask any player from 06 and younger what it was like to lose your PVP ship (you brought T2 MODS?!? are you ****ing nuts!?!) in a battle and how hard you had to work to get that back. I say nerf it, nerf it all. Then we'll see....


It's a good thing TEST/GSF/TNT/GENTS/FA/etc etc etc reimburse PVP losses then; that's a huge ISK loss on the average pilot's part to decide to PVP, it sure is.

Lt banaan
Amarr
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2011.03.31 21:49:00 - [135]
 

Edited by: Lt banaan on 31/03/2011 21:49:39
Originally by: Kastio Delago
I think the proposed change is a good thing.

0.0 space used to be battle hardened vets looking for epic fights and for the most part being satisfied even if they lost because it was good fun. Now DRF bots their boats, NC can call forth 1000 man blobs via gold plated jump bridges fueled by moon goo, cloaked AFKers can shut down an entire system of ratters, PLDDOSTSWTFPWN spai, and any alliance can throw a dot at the end of their name and with the help of a few supercaps, take over entire regions.

CCP made changes to 0.0 to bring players to this inhospitable area and give them a fighting chance but they failed to comprehend that by applying the easy button to the situation, they've created a monster. Players might not like it but CCP is going to nerf things in this game because the players are forcing CCP's hand.

We want 1000 man fleet battles with no lag.

CCP can't deliver and their solution is to cut off the supply of isk to the average player so they are less likely to join a 1000 man lagfest in 0.0 space.

Ask any player from 06 and younger what it was like to lose your PVP ship (you brought T2 MODS?!? are you ****ing nuts!?!) in a battle and how hard you had to work to get that back. I say nerf it, nerf it all. Then we'll see....


Nah their solution is to cut peoples incom to support losses and/or get other type of ships to make people not beeing able to join fleets, get bored and quit the game wich result in reduction of lag since people stop playing eve.

edit: and to pay for gametime plex ofc wich ccp wants real money for apparantly

Sephiroth CloneVII
Amarr
Jewberg Trade Federation and Bank
Posted - 2011.03.31 23:56:00 - [136]
 

Edited by: Sephiroth CloneVII on 31/03/2011 23:58:03
Null sec should be able to accommodate more not less, not just those who are l88t, but the multitudes of many who want to be part of factions and space which is player driven.

That's the big thing that makes eve different from other mmo's look at the sov maps, large share (majority) of space is held by players. Contrast with the WOW or nearly any other game, two linear factions own all the land, and none changes hands. The truly important reputation and power you get in eve is bestowed by no NPC, but other players.

The end game content of low and more so null sec space (which takes effort and organization to hold, can be more dangerous) should have higher rewards, defiantly then level 4's in empire. As it is, its mildly better, as it planned it would get worse and be able to sustain less people.

About the chaining belts.... How many in a system can be sustained by ratting belts, the average amount of belts in any given system can sustain probably only one or two people doing it at same time, will their be wait-lists or much twiddling of thumbs, wishing one had the skills to mine so they could make much less then those in empire with level 4's? Would a mere corp of 75 players with 10-20 at any given time need to have 5 whole systems exclusively their own in the lower of lame-sec to churn a decent profit? System number in nullsec is quite finite, and the numbers of players is in many thousands, hundreds of thousands in the game altogether.

Myb
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.04.01 08:36:00 - [137]
 

All your tears, it makes me happy.. u where fat enough before sanctums/havens.

I read NC mails trying to get people to 'rally' behind this protest.. your all pathetic..

its far 2 easy to make isk in 0.0 now and without any futher dangers, a local delay or something to make it less comfertable in 0.0 is needed.

Down with the fat bears and NC and botConfusedz

Mr Peanut420
Caldari
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.04.01 10:41:00 - [138]
 

I don't get why all the gank corps think 0.0 residents moving from anoms to lvl 4 missions in empire is going to be more fun for them.

Myz Toyou
Minmatar
the Organ Grinder and Company
Posted - 2011.04.01 10:51:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: Mr Peanut420
I don't get why all the gank corps think 0.0 residents moving from anoms to lvl 4 missions in empire is going to be more fun for them.


Because suicide ganking your pimpmobile in Motsu will be awsum Twisted Evil

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.04.01 11:04:00 - [140]
 

The real winners from this are the 0rphanage.

Sidzo
Minmatar
SRBI
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2011.04.01 11:09:00 - [141]
 

Edited by: Sidzo on 01/04/2011 11:14:09
United Front Ally have 5000 membres ( read as carebears )
They paying RZR for rent, so no isk = no space
80% of BFF paying for their space Wink
Originally by: zos23
Look at all them NC carebears whining in this thread. Delicious.


AGREE ugh

Zhula Guixgrixks
Gallente
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2011.04.01 12:25:00 - [142]
 

Good move CCP. popcorn

Elles Eye
Gallente
LoneStar Industries
Comatose Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.01 12:55:00 - [143]
 

Will mining also be messed with?
So less true sec, less asteroids in the upgraded belts?

Being one of the high sec dwellers you look down upon, I dont like the changes either, as it will drive players out of 0.0 again, and into my mission systems, but it doesnt hurt me, as I can get my ISK from lvl4 missions without all this CTA interruptions and roaming gangs anyway.

Ander
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.04.01 14:34:00 - [144]
 

Good move. Finally we'll see some reason for powerblocks to break up and fight for the best turf.

<3 this change

OninoTimmo
Minmatar
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.04.01 16:45:00 - [145]
 

;___________________;

Bagehi
Caldari
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2011.04.01 19:20:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: Ander
Good move. Finally we'll see some reason for powerblocks to break up and fight for the best turf.

<3 this change


You mean like they didn't before these were added?

You mean like they didn't before jump bridges?

You mean like they didn't before titans?

Rolling back changes isn't going to fix the problem because the problem existed before the changes.

Sephiroth CloneIIV
Gallente
Rim Worlds Republic
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.04.01 19:50:00 - [147]
 

Originally by: Sidzo
Edited by: Sidzo on 01/04/2011 11:14:09
United Front Ally have 5000 membres ( read as carebears )
They paying RZR for rent, so no isk = no space
80% of BFF paying for their space Wink
Originally by: zos23
Look at all them NC carebears whining in this thread. Delicious.


AGREE ugh


Well that be the point of dominion changes, to try and get more people in null sec. If ccp's goal is to make empire more lucrative then I say they succeed in changes, if their idea is to bring new people into nullsec, then these recent proposed changes are fail that undo any progress made.

As it is said, the people who like the changes, DONT want null sec populated. Which makes me wonder, if CCP should cater to ideas of how sovereignty held null sec should be from many who are not. Next thing you know, you have fleet warfare and lag issues the experts bringing ideas are anyone but a major null sec alliance who regularly has fleets. Bizzaro world, with bizzaro logic.

Marconus Orion
Amarr
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.04.01 19:57:00 - [148]
 

ITT: OCEANS OF QQ

Capricorn 0ne
Caldari
Broski Federation
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2011.04.01 21:19:00 - [149]
 

Meh it's a vidya game

DurrHurrDurr
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.04.02 00:23:00 - [150]
 

Well, at least H-Bot's a $40 one time fee.

Hello asteroid belts.


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