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DurrHurrDurr
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.03.29 16:28:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Marconus Orion
Originally by: DurrHurrDurr
If sanctums die I'll just start botting. PvE is a boring pain in the ass; it's watching three gray bars turn red. Make it more of a pain and I'm just going to automate it.


Cool idle threat bro.


It's funny that you think I can threaten an entire company.

No, the simple fact is that if they make it too inconvenient, I'll just start botting. Precious few people enjoy mining or missioning or anomaly running or what-have-you. It's either watching numbers increase or watching three gray bars slowly turn red over and over and over.

If CCP makes what I already consider a bit of a chore more inconvenient, I'll just start botting so that I don't have to go through the effort of running around and finding anomalies.

Dasola
Minmatar
Rookies Empire
Rookie Empire
Posted - 2011.03.29 16:51:00 - [92]
 

Cant remember out of my head how small portion of player base lives in 0.0. But i cant really understandt how nerfing most 0.0 space is going to improve that.

Or maybe thats the goal, force people to go in empire since ccp devs cant fix the lag. But then again those wars will only move to highsec/lowsec systems and same lag will prevail.

Bagehi
Caldari
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2011.03.29 17:02:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: DurrHurrDurr
If sanctums die I'll just start botting. PvE is a boring pain in the ass; it's watching three gray bars turn red. Make it more of a pain and I'm just going to automate it.


I'm getting the strong impression that CCP prefers botting over casual PVE. So, if they are promoting botting, then I'm clearly doing it wrong and need to conform to the game mechanics as well.

Wu Phat
Caldari
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2011.03.29 17:03:00 - [94]
 

CCP goal of this nerf is to take ISK out of eve and some how make power blocks not interested in high security null sec.

Will the nerf take isk out of eve? Yes.

Is this nerf taking isk away from the wrong player base (the people that don't bot)? Yes !

Would removing bots be better ? Yes!

Will this make large Coalitions/power blocks lesson it's grip on some regions? No






Seraphin Foad
Caldari
Navy of Xoc
The Remnant Legion
Posted - 2011.03.29 19:56:00 - [95]
 

Already replied to the mentioned thread.

This is perfect timing, Look at all the new awesome games i can play if i dont have the isk to keep playing eve.

What i don't get about this is... We've been moaning about lag in 0.0 for a bit of time now. How do they actually expect these changes to work if alliances are lagging and crashing in the attempt to claim "more desirable systems".
Thats not even looking at the fact all this is doing is hurting the average members. (Which i wont go into, since the arguements are already extensively put foward in the thread)

DurrHurrDurr
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.03.29 20:12:00 - [96]
 

I get the feeling this is simply a pre-emptive nerf to H-Bot, which is currently debugging their recently introduced anomaly runner.

Kaeh
Minmatar
Saberick Interest and Development
FreiTek Heavy Industries
Posted - 2011.03.29 20:40:00 - [97]
 

Guys your looking at this all wrong here. From ccp standpoint how many people isk grind to pay for there accounts? So if they can cut this number by say 25% then that is a lot of real money in there pockets.

Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.03.29 21:11:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Kaeh
Guys your looking at this all wrong here. From ccp standpoint how many people isk grind to pay for there accounts? So if they can cut this number by say 25% then that is a lot of real money in there pockets.


I mean, I know its all cool to go :tinfoil: and stuff, but really, a little basic math would help you out a lot here.

If I pay CCP $15 for a time code, then you give me 360mISK for a plex, how many $ did CCP get?
Rolling Eyes

JusyFrut
Caldari
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.03.29 21:23:00 - [99]
 

Edited by: JusyFrut on 29/03/2011 21:23:02
Correct me if im wrong but wouldnt nerfing empire level 4 missions get people in the lower sec status systems? furthermore i do have to mention that im terrible at this game and need to jew sanctums to replace lost ships and so does the most of TEST cause well, we are rather awfull.

Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.03.29 21:39:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: JusyFrut
Edited by: JusyFrut on 29/03/2011 21:23:02
Correct me if im wrong but wouldnt nerfing empire level 4 missions get people in the lower sec status systems? furthermore i do have to mention that im terrible at this game and need to jew sanctums to replace lost ships and so does the most of TEST cause well, we are rather awfull.


You're in Fountain, you'll be p. ok.

Kaeh
Minmatar
Saberick Interest and Development
FreiTek Heavy Industries
Posted - 2011.03.29 21:53:00 - [101]
 




I mean, I know its all cool to go :tinfoil: and stuff, but really, a little basic math would help you out a lot here.

If I pay CCP $15 for a time code, then you give me 360mISK for a plex, how many $ did CCP get?
Rolling Eyes



Alright say 5000 accounts pay for accounts in isk but they can no longer do this so they have to use rlm to pay for said accounts.

5000 x 15 x 12 = 900,000 dollars a year ccp is making.

Mutant Caldari
Caldari
Percussive Diplomacy
The Phoenix. Consortium
Posted - 2011.03.29 21:56:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: omgdutch2005
Edited by: omgdutch2005 on 26/03/2011 19:43:28
http://www.petitiononline.com/ieg2011/petition.html

stop the nerf now! vote now!

No.
Originally by: Mya ElleTerego
I think ccp is 100% right, nerf anoms in crap space, buff truesec sov space, and nerf moon goo and spread it out alot more, and increase the amount available drastically to lower costs of t2 ships and dramatically increase supply compared to demand. Also nerf coalition use of jump bridge networks and titans. Alliance / corp only, also I would like to see non corp / alliance cynos not work for titan bridging. To cut down on the meta gaming hot drop ***gotry that detracts from the game.

QFT. Twisted Evil

Harkster
Caldari
Imperial Trade Federation
Posted - 2011.03.29 22:46:00 - [103]
 

Things are working fine. Lots of conflict as is. But than again screwing up eve is what CCP likes to do and we have to adjust to a new happy place just for them to change it again.

Wollari
Caldari
Phoenix Industries
Wicked Nation
Posted - 2011.03.29 23:23:00 - [104]
 

And can we get rid of static 10/10 plexes in the same patch? Would be create to get everything sorted in one go.

DurrHurrDurr
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.03.29 23:26:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Kaeh



I mean, I know its all cool to go :tinfoil: and stuff, but really, a little basic math would help you out a lot here.

If I pay CCP $15 for a time code, then you give me 360mISK for a plex, how many $ did CCP get?
Rolling Eyes



Alright say 5000 accounts pay for accounts in isk but they can no longer do this so they have to use rlm to pay for said accounts.

5000 x 15 x 12 = 900,000 dollars a year ccp is making.


You're ******ed. Somebody already spent $15 on that plex.

g0ldfinger07
Amarr
Nexus.6
Posted - 2011.03.30 00:07:00 - [106]
 

Thanks ccp this is the most delicious carebear teared thread i have seen in a very long time you have given them too much you should take it away you have done it over and over to us pvprs.

Show the careabears your nerf bat is non bias and justified all these anoms and crap have made pvp soo dull it gave birth to having to awox to get carebears in there safety net. Null sec is supposed to be dangerous and its risk v isk as what eve has always stood for.

i say **** em and nerf it they are 90% worthless players that cant fit a drake right and deserve to diaf and go back to wow because thats where they belong.

Youve made null sec s*** since dominion its only right you do something to get rid of these disgusting creatures They will either adapt and survive or they wont they arent worthy of your fantastic game if they think the only way to achieve wealth is having as easy as anoms deliver it I say if you want to keep anoms make all the frigs/cruisers/battleships point the ship inside the anom.

As you have handed everything a carebear they could want you can do the same for all us pvprs.

Its still a great game if you decide you want to play on the basis of how you can carebear without any risk in null sec you should gtfo anyway.

P.S. CCP doesnt care about your bots.

Sephiroth CloneVII
Amarr
Jewberg Trade Federation and Bank
Posted - 2011.03.30 00:08:00 - [107]
 

To the not so bright enemy's of the NC championing this new change who are in evoke and NCdot, do you realize that with the changes being made you and your members will have to work that much more for isk, as I recall you are in former CVA space. How will paying sov bills for all the stations in some of the worst true sec space around go, how will the funds be for any incursion you plan into NC space. How will hunting targets for roams be if the lot of residents in the poor true sec areas of the north go away (which is, statistically allot of it), and you are faced with long tracts empty deserts of space.

As it is, you will, have to run allot of level 4s for pay for bills in the worst space in the universe, and to run l88t fleet opps into the north. Have fun.

Piter 'De'Vries
Gallente
Southern Cross Empire
Flying Dangerous
Posted - 2011.03.30 00:38:00 - [108]
 

Edited by: Piter ''De''Vries on 30/03/2011 00:41:02
getting rid of the greedy bastards finally ccp. thanks.... :)

pew pew pew pe "cough cough"

this thread lacks more whining.. Laughing

Dawn Harbinger
Amarr
Corp 54
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2011.03.30 01:30:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: DurrHurrDurr
If sanctums die I'll just start botting.


Wow dude, just wow. You sir, are a disgrace to this game and community Neutral

So many carebears, so much whine.

Now people can't sit in their mega coalitions and rake in mountains of isk. Boohoo. Not everyone cares about making billions of isk by farming anoms and somehow still manage to pvp every day.

Nerf bat wish list item #2: moons

DurrHurrDurr
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.03.30 01:31:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Dawn Harbinger
Originally by: DurrHurrDurr
If sanctums die I'll just start botting.


Wow dude, just wow. You sir, are a disgrace to this game and community Neutral

So many carebears, so much whine.

Now people can't sit in their mega coalitions and rake in mountains of isk. Boohoo. Not everyone cares about making billions of isk by farming anoms and somehow still manage to pvp every day.

Nerf bat wish list item #2: moons


:dealwithit: nerd. I don't wanna jew for like two hours to get a single battleship. That's butts.

Dawn Harbinger
Amarr
Corp 54
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2011.03.30 01:35:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: DurrHurrDurr
Originally by: Dawn Harbinger
Originally by: DurrHurrDurr
If sanctums die I'll just start botting.


Wow dude, just wow. You sir, are a disgrace to this game and community Neutral

So many carebears, so much whine.

Now people can't sit in their mega coalitions and rake in mountains of isk. Boohoo. Not everyone cares about making billions of isk by farming anoms and somehow still manage to pvp every day.

Nerf bat wish list item #2: moons


:dealwithit: nerd. I don't wanna jew for like two hours to get a single battleship. That's butts.


Wow, you replied within 1 minute, using a racial epithet as well. Congratulations.

Piter 'De'Vries
Gallente
Southern Cross Empire
Flying Dangerous
Posted - 2011.03.30 01:48:00 - [112]
 

his alliance is getting butt hurted by this change, alongside his coalition of bears.

bat wishlist #2 moons, for sure.

Soldarius
Caldari
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
Posted - 2011.03.30 03:41:00 - [113]
 

Deklein is looking pretty good right now. Fountain isn't too bad either. I don't think TEST is gonna be hurting for anoms any time soon.

Lykouleon
Gallente
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.30 04:41:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Dawn Harbinger
So many carebears, so much whine.


You're in CVA

:irony:

Ripperljohn
Caldari
Ore Mongers
Indecisive Certainty
Posted - 2011.03.30 04:56:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Lykouleon
Originally by: Dawn Harbinger
So many carebears, so much whine.


You're in WI.

:irony:

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.03.30 05:11:00 - [116]
 

Ironically CVA are actually a lot better at PvP than WI. is, fought for their space originally, and when they reclaimed a little of it back, and also actually defended their space. Who's the carebears again?

Myz Toyou
Minmatar
the Organ Grinder and Company
Posted - 2011.03.30 05:15:00 - [117]
 

Edited by: Myz Toyou on 30/03/2011 05:15:26
Originally by: Ripperljohn
Originally by: Lykouleon
So many carebears, so much whine.


We're in the NC

:irony:

gr ant
Caldari
NerdHerd
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.03.30 08:11:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Sephiroth CloneVII
Edited by: Sephiroth CloneVII on 26/03/2011 18:32:13

CCP doesn't like NC, and wants it to start shooting itself.



This wouldn't kill the NC, the NC doesnt soley rely on Anoms, tehy got the moongoo, This wouldnt destabalize huge coalitions, why turn on the guy who gives you a Titan when you lose one.

Archetype 66
Caldari
Pleasure and Pain
BPLAN
Posted - 2011.03.30 08:31:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Razzor Death
I don't know how to break this to you buddy but CCP are literally **** and every change they make to 0.0 only ever further demonstrates how out of touch with the game they are.


Laughing Out of touch with the game they made ?? Are you serious ?


zos23
Gallente
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.03.30 11:01:00 - [120]
 

Look at all them NC carebears whining in this thread. Delicious.


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