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RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.03.25 15:20:00 - [1]
 

Sounds Awesome ... ;-p

Valari Nala Zena
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.03.25 15:25:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Valari Nala Zena on 25/03/2011 15:25:26
Nice that CCP will be the first to use this new hardware in production, i just hope it's stable though.

Aeronwen Carys
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.03.25 15:27:00 - [3]
 

It will already have undergone thorough testing by both Intel and IBM. They are going to want CCP to buy more and to spread the word about the new systems. Fingers crossed it will do exactly what it says on the tin.

Fimble
Posted - 2011.03.25 15:30:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: RaTTuS
Sounds Awesome ... ;-p


Linkage without making me search recent dev blogs pl0x.

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.03.25 15:31:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: RaTTuS on 25/03/2011 15:31:35
Off the live feed - so no Blog yet .
we'll see it in 4 weeks with a bit of luck

new CPU from INtel and new server from IBM - ccp will be first in the world with it

Valari Nala Zena
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.03.25 15:31:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Valari Nala Zena on 25/03/2011 15:32:01

Originally by: Fimble
Originally by: RaTTuS
Sounds Awesome ... ;-p


Linkage without making me search recent dev blogs pl0x.


It was announced on fanfest HD stream, not sure if this is currently on the free stream.

Edit: apparently it is: http://fanfest.eveonline.com/en/stream/free

Fimble
Posted - 2011.03.25 15:35:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Valari Nala Zena
Edited by: Valari Nala Zena on 25/03/2011 15:32:01

Originally by: Fimble
Originally by: RaTTuS
Sounds Awesome ... ;-p


Linkage without making me search recent dev blogs pl0x.


It was announced on fanfest HD stream, not sure if this is currently on the free stream.

Edit: apparently it is: http://fanfest.eveonline.com/en/stream/free


Thanky, cool stuff!

Baell Zan
Posted - 2011.03.25 15:50:00 - [8]
 

Not a chick in sight... LOL

Rrama Ratamnim
Posted - 2011.03.25 15:50:00 - [9]
 

Yes along with automated moving to reinforced nodes based on requests, also automated reinforcement based on pos and station timers etc...

the reinforced nodes new ones are capable of 1200+ lag free fights, and the new $50k one they didnt say how insane that will be just that EVE players are insane they unlock ability for 500 man fleet fihts and what do we do we do a 3000 man fleet fight LOL.

Tinkanium
Posted - 2011.03.25 16:05:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Aeronwen Carys
It will already have undergone thorough testing by both Intel and IBM. They are going to want CCP to buy more and to spread the word about the new systems. Fingers crossed it will do exactly what it says on the tin.


Agreed. There's a reason companies like this sponsor an event like fanfest. Huge Kudos to CCP for investing in new juicy hardware, and Kudos to IBM for pushing hardware into their hands, with discounts. Hopefully it pays off for them to give their product a running start into the market.

Originally by: Rrama Ratamnim
Yes along with automated moving to reinforced nodes based on requests, also automated reinforcement based on pos and station timers etc...

the reinforced nodes new ones are capable of 1200+ lag free fights, and the new $50k one they didnt say how insane that will be just that EVE players are insane they unlock ability for 500 man fleet fihts and what do we do we do a 3000 man fleet fight LOL.


I loved that graph with the caption reading "WTF!?!?" It's true that whatever an MMO company does to expand their capacity (If the game is any good) will always cause the player base to punish the server's capabilities that much harder. As some of the devs have said in their blogs, the only thing they can hope to accomplish is to stay slightly "ahead of the curve."

Valari Nala Zena
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.03.25 16:14:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Valari Nala Zena on 25/03/2011 16:16:38
Some of the changes they went through:


  • 1 division will give you one kind of mission, no more chace based courier/trade/mining/kill missions.

  • Removed agent quality, now based on agent level only.

  • Onboard scanning, upped the scanning range and reduced scan time.

  • Can now tell appart BPC from BPO's. Still not able to stack them though

  • Plug in the implant without worrying about pausing ongoing training

  • Tech 3: change subsystems at a POS.

  • Corp logo's on ships.

  • Auroa voice comming back.

  • Singularity CQ release in about 2 weeks.

CCP Yokai

Posted - 2011.03.25 22:06:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: RaTTuS
Sounds Awesome ... ;-p


It IS!!!

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Posted - 2011.03.25 22:08:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Valari Nala Zena


  • 1 division will give you one kind of mission, no more chace based courier/trade/mining/kill missions.

  • Removed agent quality, now based on agent level only.




I wonder how these changes affect R&D agents?

Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
Posted - 2011.03.25 22:30:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Breaker77 on 25/03/2011 22:30:26
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Originally by: Valari Nala Zena


  • 1 division will give you one kind of mission, no more chace based courier/trade/mining/kill missions.

  • Removed agent quality, now based on agent level only.




I wonder how these changes affect R&D agents?


Good question, however a lot of the L4 R&D agents are in lowsec anyway. Guess people will be cashing out datacores and moving to the few highsec agents.


Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2011.03.25 23:25:00 - [15]
 

and suddenly my 10TB SAN feels kinda meh...

Vilgan Mazran
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2011.03.25 23:49:00 - [16]
 

For those that didn't watch the stream, any actual specs on the server? 50k is not a large amount to drop on a server, many shops will drop 100k or 200k on a server. However, I'd assume there is a bit more to this one than just a large amount of RAM/HD space... would be curious to know more.

Cindy Marco
Minmatar
The Warp Rats
Apotheosis of Virtue
Posted - 2011.03.25 23:56:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Cindy Marco on 25/03/2011 23:56:36
Originally by: Vilgan Mazran
For those that didn't watch the stream, any actual specs on the server? 50k is not a large amount to drop on a server, many shops will drop 100k or 200k on a server. However, I'd assume there is a bit more to this one than just a large amount of RAM/HD space... would be curious to know more.


They couldn't say. All they mentioned was that they are not commercially available yet. Its a unreleased IBM server running a unreleased Intel CPU. They are going to be the first to use both of them in a production server. They said that 50k was a discounted price.

ROXGenghis
Perkone
Posted - 2011.03.26 00:52:00 - [18]
 

Sounds like IBM found a sucker to buy some used Watson hardware now that it's done playing Jeopary TBH.

Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2011.03.26 01:14:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 26/03/2011 01:15:47
Originally by: ROXGenghis
Sounds like IBM found a sucker to buy some used Watson hardware now that it's done playing Jeopary TBH.
This is probably the most reasonable explanation. No modern company ever 'discounts' merchandise just because they think its cool and good 'potential' marketing even though thats exactly the way it was pitched. Smile

Fast forward a few months when ccp is pulling its collective hair out because of all the 'undocumented' issues with the 'new exclusive hardware' that is bugging out left and right. YARRRR!!

tl;dr: ibm and intel are probably pushing out this stuff so ccp can be the one to do the real world testing on it.

Queue the loss petitions.Twisted Evil

Usagi Tsukino
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.03.26 01:59:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: ROXGenghis
Sounds like IBM found a sucker to buy some used Watson hardware now that it's done playing Jeopary TBH.

Alex: The clue is: Data gathered from the server and stored in TXT files, made available to game masters to resolve petitions.

CCP_Watson: What is Nothing?

Alex: Correct! You're in the lead.

Vilgan Mazran
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2011.03.26 03:28:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Vilgan Mazran on 26/03/2011 03:30:41
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 26/03/2011 01:15:47
Originally by: ROXGenghis
Sounds like IBM found a sucker to buy some used Watson hardware now that it's done playing Jeopary TBH.
This is probably the most reasonable explanation. No modern company ever 'discounts' merchandise just because they think its cool and good 'potential' marketing even though thats exactly the way it was pitched. Smile



Companies can and frequently will discount a server if you are purchasing it while it is still going through prototyping/testing. Or they'll just write it off completely. One of my coworkers still has a 192 GB Dell prototype at home from 4-5 years ago when that particular server was still pre-release. They wrote it off and he got a 60k server for his home network.

That doesn't mean the server will cause all kinds of problems, I don't think they send it to potential customers until its had quite a bit of testing already.

Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2011.03.26 04:45:00 - [22]
 

hardware means nothing if you run SINGLE THREADED interpreted code on top of Microsoft database

Meeogi
Amarr
Lone Star Privateers
Posted - 2011.03.26 05:56:00 - [23]
 

I wonder if it's name will be skynet......... Que dangerous music

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.03.26 08:27:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Rasz Lin
hardware means nothing if you run SINGLE THREADED interpreted code on top of Microsoft database

server /= client

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.03.26 08:35:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Rasz Lin
hardware means nothing if you run SINGLE THREADED interpreted code on top of Microsoft database


Single threaded and polling beats interrupt-driven threaded code in high load environments. Less jitter, less latency, guaranteed response times, no surprises due to code being non-reentrant, fewer bugs. Add more single-threaded servers as you add more cores, ensuring the OS itself has a core or two to use for itself.

Proper data structures, analysis of data flows & memory usage, minimizing database calls or IPC - these will ensure greater performance gains than compiling crappy C code into machine code.

Valari Nala Zena
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.03.26 09:24:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Valari Nala Zena on 26/03/2011 09:25:27
Originally by: Meeogi
I wonder if it's name will be skynet......... Que dangerous music

BUT, the day computers are smart enough to update their own software and hardware, just think of the speed patches will be released.

Keeping up reading patch notes alone will require you to have cybernetic implants or socket behind your head.

Hack Harrison
Caldari
Posted - 2011.03.26 11:26:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Rasz Lin
hardware means nothing if you run SINGLE THREADED interpreted code on top of Microsoft database


What has the database got to do with the price of eggs??? Single threaded is single threaded against Oracle or DB2 as well Shocked

Burning Bob
Posted - 2011.03.26 11:33:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Valari Nala Zena
Edited by: Valari Nala Zena on 26/03/2011 09:25:27
Originally by: Meeogi
I wonder if it's name will be skynet......... Que dangerous music

BUT, the day computers are smart enough to update their own software and hardware, just think of the speed patches will be released.

Keeping up reading patch notes alone will require you to have cybernetic implants or socket behind your head.


Thats exactly what it wants."We are the CCP. Resistance is futile."Shocked

Thoraxe Rig
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.26 11:33:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Valari Nala Zena
Edited by: Valari Nala Zena on 26/03/2011 09:25:27
Originally by: Meeogi
I wonder if it's name will be skynet......... Que dangerous music

BUT, the day computers are smart enough to update their own software and hardware, just think of the speed patches will be released.

Keeping up reading patch notes alone will require you to have cybernetic implants or socket behind your head.



And then we'll discover something that has NEVER been seen before in programming... Perfect code. Shocked

CCP Yokai

Posted - 2011.03.26 11:37:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Rasz Lin
hardware means nothing if you run SINGLE THREADED interpreted code on top of Microsoft database


Wanna bet?

I got a very good idea fleet fights on dedicated nodes will change significantly when we put the new server in place :)


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