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Eternum Praetorian
PWNED Factor
The Seventh Day
Posted - 2011.03.25 03:34:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 25/03/2011 03:35:32
That's right, I am a whining...
I is mad bra
Wow is indeed that way------>>>> Arrow




But while I am here, I would just like to thank CCP for turning the test server into a Supercapital test ground where only Capitals and Nano'd Minmatar ships prevail.



If it was too irritating and time consuming for CCP to police all the little children, the problem could have just as easily been rectified by empowering ISD's with the magical ban hammer and letting them enjoy the euphoric afterglow of getting drunk on their own internet self importance.




[Insert pages and pages of incoherent rants in badly translated English]





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Thank you for your time.


Signed.
A loyal subscriber who is not interested in Capitalships




Githzheri
Amarr
Eternus Licentia
Posted - 2011.03.25 11:07:00 - [2]
 

I understand your frustration, but there is also opportunity to be found in fleeting up with people and killing the caps in the rooms its alot of fun.

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.25 11:51:00 - [3]
 

Yeah but you can't test anything else. You can't even have a small FFA frig brawl, or drop an active tanked BC or BS into a gang of cruisers once in a while, it's just supercaps and then large fleets cleaning everywhere out. And there's even ganking happening when people set up 1v1s in the CAs.

Xen0nn
Amarr
UK Corp
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2011.03.25 12:21:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Xen0nn on 25/03/2011 12:33:16

Easy fix for EVE dev's, set 2 Test home systems 1 for caps 1 for none caps and make the none cap not accessible for caps (High Sec?).

Then we can all test whatever we want without getting 1 shot.

PS: While your @ it how about faster fresh mirrors?
I personally find it annoying how I am out of sync millions from Trity every time.
And most of the time when I start a training and come back in weeks I find the skills hasn't been trained and skill Queue is empty.

Carola Kessler
Posted - 2011.03.25 12:33:00 - [5]
 

More simple solution, take your friends or gather yours in a neighboring 0.0 System close to yours ways away from the testsystem and you can do everything you want there too, since most stations on Sisi have seeded market there wont be a big issue to get backups or anything else, to the idea brougth up by the guy above me, Highsec would be hard to do, think about the getting Concordoked if your friends you want testing with are not in the same Corp. Laughing

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.25 12:33:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 25/03/2011 12:38:26
Xen0nn, I think you would mean a cyno jammed nullsec system, else we'll have concord or at least sec status to hamper things. But yes it's so obvious it hurts.

Carola, the whole point of the test system is that they don't have to be your friends, it's supposed to be that anyone can turn up and know there's a preferred place for their ship hull to get reasonable fights without having to ask for e.g. 3 specific players to agree to meet at a place or go a system over and then duke it out without having to wait or someone knowing and possibly even fitting for the exact encounter. Plus if people spread and pew elsewhere without being corpmates, how do you distinguish that from non-consentual griefing of people testing other things in space or just moving things about? That's what a designated test system is for.

Eternum Praetorian
PWNED Factor
The Seventh Day
Posted - 2011.03.25 13:20:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 25/03/2011 13:25:28
Or how about even simpler....


"Interference is preventing your Nyx from warping to the Frigate Only Beacon" EmbarassedShockedughNeutralConfused


I mean really?
Where is the innovation?
Your solution was a Bubbles up, Supercapital Free for all?





Ninja Edit:

To make it even simpler, if you used plex beacons with "Ship Size Limits" you would not even have to write any new code now would you? At this point having a blob waiting for you at the warp in point would be preferable.

mental maverick
Percussive Diplomacy
Posted - 2011.03.25 18:32:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: mental maverick on 25/03/2011 18:33:56
I dont visit sisi alot for testing pvp, partly for the reasons allready mentioned but also for the fact that warping to a beacon is quite far from how pvp happens most of the time on tranquility.

What i would love to see would be a free for all constellation or just 1 system whith lots of entry points. Would make it a lot more "realistic" for practising running gate camps, setting them up or chasing around belts.

A problem with this is that it might get too tranquility-like and ppl will opt for logging on to sisi to pew instead of tranquility. Dont know, just throwing it out there...

edit: typos and ****...

Khaine Beralt
Wolves Of Legend
Posted - 2011.03.26 01:55:00 - [9]
 

I mad too bra.

I'm pretty sure there are beacons that say no f***ing bombs which just so happens to be exactly what podded me in the BC/BS area. Where there also happened to be an avatar.

Hayaishi
Gallente
Aperture Harmonics
Posted - 2011.03.26 07:54:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Khaine Beralt
I mad too bra.

I'm pretty sure there are beacons that say no f***ing bombs which just so happens to be exactly what podded me in the BC/BS area. Where there also happened to be an avatar.


Podding is no longer against the rules, so hence why bombs are allowed also.

Glyken Touchon
Gallente
Independent Alchemists
Posted - 2011.03.27 20:16:00 - [11]
 

announce in local that you want a frigate brawl in a neighbouring system.

if people turn up in frigates, that's consensual pvp.

if people turn up in anything else and start interfering, they risk a ban.

The beacons may as well just have numbers now.

Gangster101 PureLove
Posted - 2011.03.27 22:15:00 - [12]
 

""" empowering ISD's with the magical ban hammer """



--Only opens pandora's box for more problems with customer service issues. These people are volunteers and not paid employees of CCP and if they are, I'm sorry for the misinformation.

Pesets
The Hunt Club
Posted - 2011.03.28 19:46:00 - [13]
 

One way to solve the problem would be to seed different constellations differently. Like, if a "cruisers and smaller" constellation would not have nigh-infinite supply of 100isk battlecruisers and above on market.

People with bigger toys could still come to play where they aren't supposed to, but 1) they would no longer be able to just gang-warp through all the beacons every few minutes and kill everything they see, and 2) once killed, they'd have to bring another ship all the way over from where it's seeded. I'm pretty sure that alone would make most people gravitate to systems they're supposed to be in.

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.28 20:16:00 - [14]
 

1) Freighter full of bigger ships to smaller ships system.
2) **** everyone who can't reship to similar sized stuff.
3) Optional, replace 1) with cyno and titan bridge?

A little bit of technical limitation or enforcement would go a very very long way.

Comodore John
Gallente
Trixi IFI
Posted - 2011.03.28 23:51:00 - [15]
 

That's when you titan bridge freighters full of ships, not hard.

Leave stuff as is tbh. Only change I'd like to see is if CCP Habakuk parks his bot outside the station with a perma running GM ECM burst to prevent people fighting.

xXxSatsujinxXx
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
Posted - 2011.03.29 14:54:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Eternum Praetorian
Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 25/03/2011 03:35:32
Supercapital test ground where only Capitals and Nano'd Minmatar ships prevail.





Sounds a lot like TQ... Laughing



nocaffeine
Posted - 2011.03.29 18:03:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Comodore John
That's when you titan bridge freighters full of ships, not hard.

Leave stuff as is tbh. Only change I'd like to see is if CCP Habakuk parks his bot outside the station with a perma running GM ECM burst to prevent people fighting.


now this is an awsome idea, +1

Crazza
Posted - 2011.03.30 17:21:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Comodore John
That's when you titan bridge freighters full of ships, not hard.

Leave stuff as is tbh. Only change I'd like to see is if CCP Habakuk parks his bot outside the station with a perma running GM ECM burst to prevent people fighting.


I really like this ideaVery Happy

guthin aspheirocy
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.03.31 10:05:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: guthin aspheirocy on 31/03/2011 10:05:52
Originally by: Eternum Praetorian
Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 25/03/2011 13:25:28
Or how about even simpler....


"Interference is preventing your Nyx from warping to the Frigate Only Beacon" EmbarassedShockedughNeutralConfused


I mean really?
Where is the innovation?
Your solution was a Bubbles up, Supercapital Free for all?



Ninja Edit:

To make it even simpler, if you used plex beacons with "Ship Size Limits" you would not even have to write any new code now would you? At this point having a blob waiting for you at the warp in point would be preferable.


I like this idea actually. And you cant scan down the people within the 'plex' because you will just warp to the gate.

So essentially its a 'plex' but without the NPC's?

Sounds good.

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
The KWFL Republic
Posted - 2011.03.31 14:38:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Copine Callmeknau on 31/03/2011 14:46:16
Said it before and I'll say it again. 2 neighbouring nullsec systems. One with everything on market, the other with everything except cap ships on market.
The capship free system has a CCP owned cynojamming POS at every moon.

Script runs @ DT to respawn cynojam POS (in case some silly bugger actually manages to kill them all)

Problem solved, no new code needs to be written (mebbe 5 min for the respawn script)

Until then, well I've deleted sisi build off my hdd as all it's doing is taking up space. I suggest everyone else who finds these sisi changes to have ruined the server do the same thing. Don't bother masstesting, why put your effort into CCP's little projects when they can't even be bothered to maintain a usable test server.

Speaking as someone who had been logging on to sisi for 5 years, until the changes came in

Comodore John
Gallente
Trixi IFI
Posted - 2011.03.31 21:53:00 - [21]
 

Using acceleration gates actually won't help at all. Everyone will just camp the warp in point since it's always in the same spot.

Brimstone Biker
Posted - 2011.04.01 20:11:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Comodore John
Using acceleration gates actually won't help at all. Everyone will just camp the warp in point since it's always in the same spot.


Could just have x number of accel gate entrances to each ffa which would also drop you out at different locations inside the ffa's. Chances are not all of them will be camped all the time and less likely to happen to land in the middle of a blob on the other end Cool

It be like an exciting little gambling session every time Twisted Evil

Skittnator
Caldari
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2011.04.01 22:08:00 - [23]
 

Im on a Mac and it takes alot more work and frustration to get the Mac Test Server going not to mention whenever there is an update or mass test of which no mac users can join you must reinstall the server again, and again, and again. I had fun for a month or two in FD doing solo battles with the pally and suiciding archons into the cap beacon against titans and supers for insurance money. But after reading this I have realized that it will utterly be not worth it to go threw the hassle of downloading the client again and changing names etc. when I will obviously not even be able to have the fun I used to. thank you Eternum, you saved me some hassle. o/


 

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