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Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.13 06:40:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Daniel limb
I am of the opinion that Windjammer is a bad poster and am not lying about this in the least.

-Windjammer
Good for you. Honest opinion. Incorrect, but I’m almost sure it’s honest.

In that you believe in sharing your honest opinion, surely you support the idea of others doing the same. Say by writing to [email protected] to give their honest opinion of what they think about the article in question.

-Windjammer

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.13 22:14:00 - [92]
 

I really can't help but be tickled by Windy's campaign of libel and admitted attempt to draw negative attention to a business. At the point where he's libeling someone for "lying... by omission!" it gets even funnier.

I'm sure that TTH has no real interest in suing children on the internet, but it's some good ol' fashioned basic irony.

Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.14 06:57:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero
I really don’t understand the words, but if I use them and they’re important enough sounding, people might believe I know something and pay attention to me.
It isn’t libel if it’s true and it isn’t a campaign against TenTonHammer unless Mits is TenTonHammer. Such a good quack! Who’s a good duck? Good duck. Here’s a little snack for you.

Write to [email protected] and give them your honest opinion regarding Mits article.

-Windjammer

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.14 07:26:00 - [94]
 

Same old trolling as always. Here's a hint, you'd be less glaringly awful if you weren't simply reduced to lying with every post and could actually do something like say "Finn is wrong, because of X, Y and Z" instead of "lol, Finn doesn't understand!"

Originally by: Windjammer
It isn’t libel if it’s true


Congratulations, now that you understand what libel is, you should realize that libeling TTH and claiming that they're published "lies", which you redefine as "lies of omission" is somewhat less than honest. Here, let's conduct another quick experiment in whether you are lying and trolling, or being honest:

Point out all the "lies" that TTH printed. Quote these "lies", verbatim.
Or, naturally, prove that you are the one who is lying and trolling (horribly).

Quote:

and it isn’t a campaign against TenTonHammer
[...]
Help TenTonHammer save itself.
[...]
Write to [email protected] Let them know that if you can’t believe in the credibility of their writers, their site becomes devalued.
[...]
Help TenTonHammer become a better site
[...]
The only way TenTonHammer will know how you feel about being lied to is if you tell them.
[...]
TenTonHammer become a better site. An opinionated article is one thing. Intentional omissions designed to lie to the reader are another. Stop the misinformation.
[...]
Publications who let their writers hand out misinformation do not, as a rule, retain a following.
[...]
If you’re tired of seeing articles of the type The Mittani wrote, if you want to see something better, write [email protected]
[...]
[email protected] Write them and let them know the level of journalism you want to read. Who wants to read slanted bigotry? Let’s see if we can’t convince them to have some better talent from their contributors. Do they really want their site used as a platform for a self-serving hack?
[...]
Most publications will at least pretend to have some integrity and like people to believe they have credibility. The Mits blog journalism in TenTonHammers’ publication isn’t even pretending.
[...]
Let’s all write letters to the editor(s) of TenTonHammer and see just how much they care about the credibility or integrity of their publication.


You're not particularly good at lying.
Stick to trying to organize Angry Letter campaigns. You're a bit less horrible at that.


Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.14 20:20:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: The Mittani, from his article
After a lot of high-profile press, the ‘watchdog CSM’ was quietly abandoned after the T20 crisis died down and vanished for almost a year.
Omitting even the most trivial mention of what CCP did instead of making the CSM an investigative “watchdog” and thereby giving the impression CCP abandoned the “watchdog” project entirely, leaving the future open to further corrupt behavior on the part of CCP staff. That’s not what CCP did. CCP replaced the idea of a CSM “watchdog” group with a much more powerful internal investigation section of their organization. Thus the lie of omission.

Write to [email protected] Let them hear your voice. Give them nothing more or less than your honest opinion regarding Mits article.

-Windjammer

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.15 06:47:00 - [96]
 

Just as I said, there are absolutely no lies and you cannot point out any lies because, as usual, you are engaging in meta-lying and you're trolling.

Originally by: Windjammer
Omitting even the most trivial mention of what CCP did instead of making the CSM an investigative “watchdog” thereby giving the impression CCP abandoned the “watchdog” project entirely


You are lying and trolling. Mittani specifically mentions that CCP created the Internal Affairs department. You know this and are deliberately trying to lie to people, and we know that you're lying and attempting to troll because, literally, the sentence right before the one you cherrypicked says that the original watchdog concept of the CSM was mooted by the IA department that exists today.

Originally by: What the article actually says
The original CSM was mooted as a body similar to today’s Internal Affairs department, a group of elected player-auditors who would ensure that Sabre BPOs were no longer being handed out gratis. After a lot of high-profile press, the ‘watchdog CSM’ was quietly abandoned after the T20 crisis died down and vanished for almost a year.


I'll still quote the last bit of your trolling just for laughs:
Originally by: Windy

CCP replaced the idea of a CSM “watchdog” group with a much more powerful internal investigation section of their organization. Thus the lie of omission.


One might even say that the original CSM watchdog concept was mooted by the development of the IA department.
Go figure.

Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
Posted - 2011.04.15 14:13:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero
You are lying and trolling. Mittani specifically mentions .....


I don't think anyone has ever done more ___ kissing than you on these forums. Yet you still can't call him "Mittens"?Shocked

Does that make you feel unappreciated?

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.15 16:29:00 - [98]
 

We really do need a better class of troll.
You folks aren't even amusing.

Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.15 17:14:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero
Originally by: Windjammer
Omitting even the most trivial mention of what CCP did instead of making the CSM an investigative “watchdog” thereby giving the impression CCP abandoned the “watchdog” project entirely
Mittani specifically mentions that CCP created the Internal Affairs department.
Originally by: What the article actually says
The original CSM was mooted as a body similar to today’s Internal Affairs department, a group of elected player-auditors who would ensure that Sabre BPOs were no longer being handed out gratis. After a lot of high-profile press, the ‘watchdog CSM’ was quietly abandoned after the T20 crisis died down and vanished for almost a year.

Apparently I was mistaken or the article was edited. When I reread the article yesterday I could swear the part zero pointed out was not there. In any case, the article currently contains no outright lies or lies of omission that I can find today and I hereby retract my allegation that it does contain such things.

Do not write to [email protected] to express your honest opinion of what you think of Mits’ lies. Mits is a veritable paragon of honesty. He even admits to being biased in the things he’s writing about. Talk about your full disclosure. You may, however, wish to write TenTonHammer to express your opinion regarding his bias. After all, Mits gave his opinion, shouldn’t you?

-Windjammer

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.15 17:40:00 - [100]
 

Edited by: FinnAgain Zero on 15/04/2011 17:42:12

Originally by: Windjammer
or the article was edited.

Rolling Eyes

Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.15 18:08:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero
Edited by: FinnAgain Zero on 15/04/2011 17:42:12

Originally by: Windjammer
or the article was edited.

Rolling Eyes

SmileI thought you’d like that. Take what you can get, little duck, and focus on my retraction.

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.15 18:23:00 - [102]
 

Edited by: FinnAgain Zero on 15/04/2011 18:26:20
Yes, I caught you lying and trolling, good save.
And check your babelfish settings, "duck" is not an insult in English.

Predictably though, you're still strangely obsessed with mittens. Now you want TTH to fire him because he publishes opinions in an opinion column.

Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.15 18:49:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero, troll at large
And check your babelfish settings, "duck" is not an insult in English.
Well then you shouldn’t be insulted, should you.Smile

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero, troll at large
Predictably though, you're still strangely obsessed with mittens. Now you want TTH to fire him because he publishes opinions in an opinion column.
Have I advocated Mit’s be fired?

I notice you're calling him mittens now. Guess that other guys comments got to you.

-Windjammer

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.15 18:52:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Windjammer
Have I advocated Mit’s be fired?


Yes troll, that's what you've been advocating all along.
Now I believe your next move is to lie and claim that you're only suggesting that people write Angry Letters to TTH telling them to "do something" about Mittens.

Originally by: Windjammer

I notice you're calling him mittens now.


I notice that you are a liar and a troll, and I've been calling him "mittens" for quite some time. I also notice that you're a troll and you think that calling a person by their in-game name means something... at all.


Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.15 19:13:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero, troll at large and now…..angry duck
Originally by: Windjammer
Have I advocated Mit’s be fired?


Yes troll, that's what you've been advocating all along.
Now I believe your next move is to lie and claim that you're only suggesting that people write Angry Letters to TTH telling them to "do something" about Mittens.
Would you refer me to the post or posts I made advocating Mits be fired? I seem to have misplaced it or them.

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero, troll at large and now…..angry duck
Originally by: Windjammer

I notice you're calling him mittens now. Guess that other guys comments got to you.
.
I notice that you are a liar and a troll, and I've been calling him "mittens" for quite some time. I also notice that you're a troll and you think that calling a person by their in-game name means something... at all.
Don’t you think you should capitalize the first letter of “mittens”? Show a little respect?

-Windjammer

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.15 19:25:00 - [106]
 

Already pointed out, that's what you're advocating. This is similar to your earlier lie that you weren't really advocating that people make this about TTH itself.
Now, of course, your lie is that you weren't saying that people should make it about The Mittani. You can't keep keep your lies straight by this point.

Originally by: Windjammer
angry


Actually, as you are a liar and a troll, you are not only obsessed with someone out-of-game because of who they are in a video game and the video game's focus group, you were trying to rally people based on a lie (that you've now admitted was a lie) and claimed that you were "mad as hell".

Predictably, you're now lying and trolling and pretending that others are angry, while you were the one engaged in a campaign of libel and who wants to have someone fired for publishing opinions in an opinion column.

But as usual, I'll provide you enough rope to hang yourself.
Assuming you're not lying and trolling, show us what specific action you'd demand TTH to take in order to prohibit a writer include opinions in their opinion column, other than not letting them publish an opinion column.
Don't worry, as with the rest of your lies, we all know what your refusal to answer will mean.

Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.15 19:45:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero, forum troll at large
Assuming you're not lying and trolling, show us what specific action you'd demand TTH to take in order to prohibit a writer include opinions in their opinion column, other than not letting them publish an opinion column.
Hmmm…...you claim I’ve advocated Mits be fired from TenTonHammer, yet you ask what specific action I would “demand” of TenTonHammer. Additionally you still haven’t referred myself or anyone else to a post where I advocate Mits be fired.

What’s wrong with this picture? Anyone?

Write to [email protected] and give them your honest opinion of the bias in Mits article. It’s customer feedback and something they’ll appreciate. Resistance is not futile.

-Windjammer

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.15 19:48:00 - [108]
 

Quote:
But as usual, I'll provide you enough rope to hang yourself.
Assuming you're not lying and trolling, show us what specific action you'd demand TTH to take in order to prohibit a writer include opinions in their opinion column, other than not letting them publish an opinion column.
Don't worry, as with the rest of your lies, we all know what your refusal to answer will mean.


Thank you for, again, proving you are lying and trolling. Have fun with your deranged obsession with someone over a video game.

Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.16 02:44:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero, troll at large and now…..angry duck
Originally by: Windjammer
Have I advocated Mit’s be fired?
Yes troll, that's what you've been advocating all along.
Now I believe your next move is to lie and claim that you're only suggesting that people write Angry Letters to TTH telling them to "do something" about Mittens.
And yet you still haven’t found the post in which I advocated Mitts be fired. You who are so fond of quotes can find nothing? Can you find anything in this thread showing I advocated TenTonHammer take a specific action of any kind against Mitts? No? Interesting. What exactly did I advocate, little duck?

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero, forum troll at large
But as usual, I'll provide you enough rope to hang yourself.
Assuming you're not lying and trolling, show us what specific action you'd demand TTH to take in order to prohibit a writer include opinions in their opinion column, other than not letting them publish an opinion column.
Don't worry, as with the rest of your lies, we all know what your refusal to answer will mean.

And now you’re saying that unless I supply you with a demand I might make of TenTonHammer, I’m a liar and a troll. What an interesting train of………….would you call it logic?

Where’s your rope, zero? I don’t seem to be able to see it. Or is that what you’re walking on? Looks very frayed.

-Windjammer

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.16 05:48:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero
But as usual, I'll provide you enough rope to hang yourself.
Assuming you're not lying and trolling, show us what specific action you'd demand TTH to take in order to prohibit a writer include opinions in their opinion column, other than not letting them publish an opinion column.
Don't worry, as with the rest of your lies, we all know what your refusal to answer will mean.


Originally by: Windy
And now you’re saying that unless I supply you with a demand


I know you're horrible at logic, but I've already pointed out what your demand is and pointed out that if you can't supply what you claim is your "real" demand, that the logical necessity stands: you are demanding the only possible change that someone can make to stop an opinion column from printing opinions. That is, to remove it from publication.
It's okay, I've given you enough rope to hang yourself. You will either point out what actual action you're demanding TTH take to stop opinions in an opinion column, or prove, yet again, that you are a liar and a troll.

It's very simple.
Let me guess more personal attacks, more logical fallacies, more alleging that showing how you lie and troll constantly makes someone a "forum troll at large"... but absolutely no answer as to what you're demanding TTH do to stop opinions in an opinion column.


Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.16 23:56:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero, troll at large and now…..angry duck
Originally by: Windjammer
Have I advocated Mit’s be fired?
Yes troll, that's what you've been advocating all along.
Now I believe your next move is to lie and claim that you're only suggesting that people write Angry Letters to TTH telling them to "do something" about Mittens.
I’m still waiting for you to show where I advocated Mitts be fired. Let me give you a little bit of information. It doesn’t exist. No matter how hard you try to pretend that it does.

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero, forum troll at large and now……..desperate duck
I know you're horrible at logic, but I've already pointed out what your demand is and pointed out that if you can't supply what you claim is your "real" demand, that the logical necessity stands: you are demanding the only possible change that someone can make to stop an opinion column from printing opinions. That is, to remove it from publication.
It's okay, I've given you enough rope to hang yourself. You will either point out what actual action you're demanding TTH take to stop opinions in an opinion column, or prove, yet again, that you are a liar and a troll.
I see. You manufacture a demand, but claim I made it and you can’t show where I made such a demand. That’s because the demand doesn’t exist.

Then you say that unless I provide an alternate demand, your created one must be true because you, zero, cannot imagine anything else, calling it the only possibility. And you call this…….logic. Hmmm. Perhaps it is. Zero logic. Has a ring to it.

Have I made a demand of Mitts, of TenTonHammer, of anyone? Have I done anything other than urge people to write to [email protected] to express themselves?

That rope around your neck is catching the light in a most fetching manner, zero.Twisted Evil

-Windjammer

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.17 01:06:00 - [112]
 

Edited by: FinnAgain Zero on 17/04/2011 01:15:35

Originally by: Finn, kicking Windy's head in, yet again
Originally by: Finn
But as usual, I'll provide you enough rope to hang yourself. Assuming you're not lying and trolling, show us what specific action you'd demand TTH to take in order to prohibit a writer include opinions in their opinion column, other than not letting them publish an opinion column.Don't worry, as with the rest of your lies, we all know what your refusal to answer will mean.


Originally by: Windy
And now you’re saying that unless I supply you with a demand


I know you're horrible at logic, but I've already pointed out what your demand is and pointed out that if you can't supply what you claim is your "real" demand, that the logical necessity stands: you are demanding the only possible change that someone can make to stop an opinion column from printing opinions. That is, to remove it from publication.
It's okay, I've given you enough rope to hang yourself. You will either point out what actual action you're demanding TTH take to stop opinions in an opinion column, or prove, yet again, that you are a liar and a troll.


It's very simple.
Let me guess more personal attacks, more logical fallacies, more alleging that showing how you lie and troll constantly makes someone a "forum troll at large"... but absolutely no answer as to what you're demanding TTH do to stop opinions in an opinion column.


As I said, providing you with enough rope to hang yourself, you've complied easily. You still can't point out what your actual demand is that would have TTH stopping Mittani from publishing opinions in an opinion column, other than stopping his column. That's because you're a liar and a troll, and of course that's your demand. If you weren't a liar and a troll, you could state "Why, that's incorrect Finn! My actual demand is that..."

Instead, you just lie and troll some more and hang yourself with the rope I provided. Even allowing you the chance to explain what, you claim, you really meant just leaves you proving that you're lying and trolling, again. It would be so simple to prove me wrong "No, you're wrong Finn, the steps I would expect TTH to take in order to stop publishing opinions I don't like in opinions columns are X, Y and Z."

Except there are no such demands. I'm correct and logical necessity demands that the only way to stop opinions in an opinion column is to remove it, and you can only troll about it.
Which is why "No, my actual demands are..."

But that's because you simply do not post at me without lying and trolling. Like your lie that you weren't making this about a TTH, followed by ten quotes of your own words where you made it about TTH... and after being caught (yet again) lying in order to support your trolling, your quickly changed to subject with another lie that you were trolling with. And when it was proven that you deliberately took the second of two lines and lied that the first didn't exist, in order to troll, then you claimed that maybe the article had been edited.

Figured out yet what your "real" demand is of TTH so that they stop publishing opinions in an opinion column? No? Just going to troll some more?
Prove me wrong.
We all know why you can't.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.04.18 10:08:00 - [113]
 

God almighty, both of you just shut up.

Seriously, take a step back, look at yourselves, and shut up.

Marconus Orion
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.04.18 11:36:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
God almighty, both of you just shut up.

Seriously, take a step back, look at yourselves, and shut up.


I think they are soul mates. Laughing

Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.21 00:23:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Marconus Orion
Originally by: Malcanis
God almighty, both of you just shut up.

Seriously, take a step back, look at yourselves, and shut up.


I think they are soul mates. Laughing
Dude!!!Shocked That is soooo not funny.

Mahasil Regyri
Posted - 2011.04.25 22:40:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel

I hope I do get in CSM 6 so we can have the opportunity to discuss this whole 0.0 thing again


So... what do you think about the whole 0.0 thing now?

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.26 07:50:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
look at yourselves


Hrm... I have valid points, I cite my claims, and I'm telling the truth and the other guy is verifiably lying and trolling. Such is life. I will point out the minor irony of posting to tell people to stop posting, though.


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