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DoPlanet
Posted - 2011.03.23 01:44:00 - [61]
 

Isnt this CSM thing a scam to make us hope issues listed "match questions" ( http://match.eve-csm.com/step_2.php ) will actually be solved properly ?
If a candidate gains scammed votes, those votes are not based on the candidate actual agenda on issue solving.
If CCP turns a blind eye to vote scamming, i draw the logical conclusion that it doesnt give a flying beep about
http://match.eve-csm.com/step_2.php and the page its better off deleted,
so we dont waste anymore time deciding a REAL vote, the best scammer will win anyway...



Awesome Possum
Original Sin.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
Posted - 2011.03.23 02:04:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: DoPlanet
so we dont waste anymore time deciding a REAL vote, the best scammer will win anyway...


Welcome to politics.

Btw, those issues you listed.. that list was created by a private individual, and is on a private website. Not CCP endorsed.

DoPlanet
Posted - 2011.03.23 02:18:00 - [63]
 

Edited by: DoPlanet on 23/03/2011 02:21:34
Facebook, Eve Online, March 9 :
"Want to ride the wave of internet democracy, but don't have time to wax your board? http://match.eve-csm.com/ provides a helpful shortcut for those without time/inclination to read forums, listen to podcasts or visit CSM candidate sites"

So, i should just ignore Eve Online on Facebook ? :)
Anyway the main ideea still stands... The reasons for casting the votes should matter to CCP

Naecuss
Minmatar
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.03.23 03:34:00 - [64]
 

I got my plex too, top man.

Josef Huffenpuff
Caldari
Posted - 2011.03.23 03:42:00 - [65]
 

Its irrelevant whether its a scam or not. Offering an in-game item (ie a PLEX) for an out of game reward or service (ie your vote) is a violation of the Rules Of Conduct and the EULA. This makes his candidacy invalid, and exposes him to the ban hammer ...

Good Luck mate

Quote:
6 You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of anything in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items

Awesome Possum
Original Sin.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
Posted - 2011.03.23 04:19:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Josef Huffenpuff
Its irrelevant whether its a scam or not. Offering an in-game item (ie a PLEX) for an out of game reward or service (ie your vote) is a violation of the Rules Of Conduct and the EULA. This makes his candidacy invalid, and exposes him to the ban hammer ...

Good Luck mate

Quote:
6 You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of anything in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items



that's a crap interpretation, and services such as killboards and eoh poker point to it being worth nothing more than crap.

Darius III
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.03.23 05:00:00 - [67]
 

6 You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of anything in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.

otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of anything in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.

anything in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.

is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.

in-game services or items.

in-game

Election is in game, thus your opinion is null.

I am just trying to be like HAN SOLO from STAR TREK, a vagabond and smuggler.

NeoShocker
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.03.23 06:41:00 - [68]
 

"Han Solo from Star Trek" ... ****ing LOL, even on comms, its still funny Darius, <3 u.

At least the votes are put to use rather than unused. Better results for CCP graphical charts yes? :O

Hemp Invader
Inverted Worlds
Posted - 2011.03.23 09:35:00 - [69]
 

Edited by: Hemp Invader on 23/03/2011 09:38:14
Originally by: Darius III
HAN SOLO from STAR TREK


Can someone please crank up the originality in this thread, this guy has used the same line twice in this thread alone and god knows how many times on teamspeak.

Also, back to the point, you sir want to gain an out of game service by advertising an in game service (trip to iceland vs plex). Tell me how you're any different from the people that sell isk on e-bay or on isk-bank.ru.

And for god's sake don't fall into the NC philosophy and blob us to death with the same ending line Mr. HAN SOLO.

DoPlanet
Posted - 2011.03.23 12:15:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: NeoShocker
At least the votes are put to use rather than unused. Better results for CCP graphical charts yes? :O


Better to have unused votes than votes given away for other reasons than the candidate's agenda.
Once again CCP shows me how full of crap they are.

Khory Thunderstar
The Single Scam
Posted - 2011.03.23 13:23:00 - [71]
 

Welcome to EVE

Scamming is part of the game

DoPlanet
Posted - 2011.03.23 14:41:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Khory Thunderstar

Scamming is part of the game


Scaming is part of the game and i do like it.
However, I wasnt aware that scaming is part of the way CCP handles gameplay changes/issue fixing.
Allowing scamed votes = Dont giving a beep about real players decisions.

On PLEX for Good: Japan, CCP says:
CCP regards any scamming attempts surrounding this effort to be morally reprehensible and they will be met with swiftest action
So, it is possible, even though scaming is, like you say, "part of the game".
So, CCP doesnt think that stealing CSM votes would be "morally reprehensible".
So, why i shouldnt say "Bu||sh|T" when i read things like: "EVE‘s most valuable person, the player." in the devblogs ?
I only ask to treat scaming as part of the game.
You scam elections, you're caught and dont denie it?
Good, you're out.
Sounds like a pretty good game concept to me.

NeoShocker
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.03.23 17:59:00 - [73]
 

Edited by: NeoShocker on 23/03/2011 18:04:27
DoPlanet, perhaps I can assure you. Knowing darius, I know he will take CSM position seriously. I agree what scamming to get votes is very questionable, at best, lame and CCP should respond on this issue since a CSM represents the eve players. And really, I don't like cheaters either.

Then again, to YOU, generally a CSM is "honest", "kind natured", and take things "seriously". Do Darius fit those description if he's elected CSM? To my opinion, yes, along that he may (or maybe will ...) troll, so maybe not so serious. :O Scamming, suicide ganking, is just a hobby thing for him, but he's not a liar. If he is, I wouldn't respect him as much as I respect SCOOTER1.

Sure, he finds loopholes within CCP policy/rules. But he doesn't hides them like those guys in mag wormhole and exploiting with the negative bonus for gunnery systems or PL using the delayed local exploit. He ask GMs if its allowable or not to be sure. Station contract scamming is one of them. If that doesn't make him honest, I don't know what.

TBH, I don't know when exactly he started trolling/scamming and stuffs, but I noticed he's doing that since half a year ago. An evolved pokemon Darius III since taking over Geminate. He was only the nice and fun guy to hang out with to just suicide gank people. Probably he's taking the fun factor to another level.

Arthur Miller
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.03.23 22:38:00 - [74]
 

Almost thought Darius got booted from CSM

GGRRRR TROLLLAGE YARRRR!!

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.03.24 03:51:00 - [75]
 

Ankhsemptampkah spammed mission hubs saying to vote for her to keep level 4s in empire. Darius is doing more or less the same thing.

amarri victari
Posted - 2011.03.24 12:05:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Suitonia
Ankhsemptampkah spammed mission hubs saying to vote for her to keep level 4s in empire. Darius is doing more or less the same thing.


sootnia is a witch !

burn her!

Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2011.03.24 12:11:00 - [77]
 

Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 24/03/2011 12:11:35
Originally by: Darius III


Election is in game, thus your opinion is null.



While it is understandable you would want a defence, CCP has never given any indication that the CSM was "in game". In fact, the demand that participants have to provide their real name, sign an agreement that effects the player and not the avatar (see Larkonis gate) and pretty much all communication from CCP strongly indicates that the CSM has nothing to do with "in game" at all.

Of course, if you or anybody else are breaking the EULA is up to CCP to decide.

krytan
Amarr
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.03.24 23:16:00 - [78]
 

D3 should be king of the CSM as he can dibble a basketball with either hand...cos he's amphibious!

The Jackhammer
Minmatar
MunsterMunch
Hydroponic Zone
Posted - 2011.03.26 00:37:00 - [79]
 

I got my PLEX ... AND I didn't wind up voting for Darius III ... REVERSE Scam Shocked


Darius III
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.03.26 18:00:00 - [80]
 

Thanks again. It was YOUR VOTE AND VOTES LIKE YOURS that put me over the top. You been had.

Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2011.03.26 20:18:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Baneken
Originally by: Reonetii

Funny thing is, he posted this email to me too, or should I say to another alt (or main depending on how you view it) that I haven't posted on the forums with for years, so either he reads old old posts or he somehow has some inside way of knowing who my main is, versus who I mostly post with.


Your finished contracts are open for all to see, don't have to be a genius to figure out a main if you have a regular supply traffic via contracts to/from your alt.




Private contracts?

DoPlanet
Posted - 2011.03.29 00:44:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: NeoShocker
Edited by: NeoShocker on 23/03/2011 18:04:27
DoPlanet, perhaps I can assure you. Knowing darius, I know he will take CSM position seriously. I agree what scamming to get votes is very questionable, at best, lame and CCP should respond on this issue since a CSM represents the eve players. And really, I don't like cheaters either.

Then again, to YOU, generally a CSM is "honest", "kind natured", and take things "seriously". Do Darius fit those description if he's elected CSM? To my opinion, yes, along that he may (or maybe will ...) troll, so maybe not so serious. :O Scamming, suicide ganking, is just a hobby thing for him, but he's not a liar. If he is, I wouldn't respect him as much as I respect SCOOTER1.

Sure, he finds loopholes within CCP policy/rules. But he doesn't hides them like those guys in mag wormhole and exploiting with the negative bonus for gunnery systems or PL using the delayed local exploit. He ask GMs if its allowable or not to be sure. Station contract scamming is one of them. If that doesn't make him honest, I don't know what.

TBH, I don't know when exactly he started trolling/scamming and stuffs, but I noticed he's doing that since half a year ago. An evolved pokemon Darius III since taking over Geminate. He was only the nice and fun guy to hang out with to just suicide gank people. Probably he's taking the fun factor to another level.



You dont get it :)
My problem is with CCP for allowing it, not with Darius, good for him for thinking of this scam AND getting away with it.
Darius may or may not take the CSM position seriously, with or without assurances, i dont care.
Allowing scammed votes is a big sign of "we dont care" from CCP's part. I already explained why.



Chib
Drunken Wookies
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.03.29 07:46:00 - [83]
 

how many politicians deliver false promises in order to be elected? all of them!

just politics to me

Darius III
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.03.30 12:35:00 - [84]
 

Edited by: Darius III on 04/04/2011 12:46:46
Edited by: Darius III on 04/04/2011 02:45:16

Originally by: Chib
how many politicians deliver false promises in order to be elected? all of them!

just politics to me


I will violence your boat-to get your vote!
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