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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2011.03.17 21:26:00 - [1]
 

I already used up all my currently subbed accounts' votes; however, there's a thread on MD advising that Kalrand no longer shows up in the running for CSM.

Can anybody confirm this, and if so, can CCP please explain?

Thanks.

(If Kalrand -has- been removed, i would like to recast my votes for a candidate that is still eligible - after all, some of the CSM candidates' platforms are so far out of rational that I will vote for people I don't like in hopes of keeping those I think want to ruin the game out of the CSM).

General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2011.03.17 21:31:00 - [2]
 

I trust I can rely on your vote.

Draco Llasa
Thundercats
Posted - 2011.03.17 21:35:00 - [3]
 

Kalrand does not shows on the candidate page for me...
http://www.eveonline.com/council/voting/candidatesview.asp

Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2011.03.17 22:02:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
I already used up all my currently subbed accounts' votes; however, there's a thread on MD advising that Kalrand no longer shows up in the running for CSM.

Can anybody confirm this, and if so, can CCP please explain?

Thanks.

(If Kalrand -has- been removed, i would like to recast my votes for a candidate that is still eligible - after all, some of the CSM candidates' platforms are so far out of rational that I will vote for people I don't like in hopes of keeping those I think want to ruin the game out of the CSM).


I don't know about Karland being removed (if, when or why), so if you intended to vote for him, I suggest you wait a bit and see if it's a glitch.

If it's not, may I suggest you look at my candidacy, I'm known to be sensible, rational, even tempered and fairly intelligent. There's several recommendations from previous CSM members with whom I've worked you might want to look at too.

Cheers

Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2011.03.17 23:17:00 - [5]
 

Actually, I'd probably vote for Tyrannus.

His opinion on removing insurance for suicide ganking is a little Crying or Very sad, but at least he doesn't want to nerf T2 BPOs (I don't own any, but I still think you have to be a pretty special kid to think that T2 BPOs have a negative impact on the game). His other opinions also match up fairly well to my own.

Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
Posted - 2011.03.17 23:19:00 - [6]
 

Confirming he's no longer listed and I don't got my votes back yet. Petition inbound ugh

Also confirming that no-one yet posting in this thread will get my alternate vote unless they deposit large sums of Isk. Assuming votes are returned.

Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.03.17 23:44:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Lauren Hellfury
Confirming he's no longer listed and I don't got my votes back yet. Petition inbound ugh

Also confirming that no-one yet posting in this thread will get my alternate vote unless they deposit large sums of Isk. Assuming votes are returned.


As I believe was stated elsewhere, CCP can track which accounts voted, and which candidates received votes, but there is no data stored or tracked about who voted for which candidate. Therefore, I doubt you'll get your votes back because there is in fact no way to verify who you voted for, only that you voted.


Estel Arador
Posted - 2011.03.17 23:48:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Mynxee
there is in fact no way to verify who you voted for, only that you voted.


In that case I want my votes back too.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.03.17 23:52:00 - [9]
 

Mynxee, surely you know more than you're saying. What did that dillhole do to get kicked off the candidates list?

Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.03.18 02:21:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Mynxee on 18/03/2011 02:31:31
Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Mynxee
there is in fact no way to verify who you voted for, only that you voted.


In that case I want my votes back too.


No do-overs! Twisted Evil

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Mynxee, surely you know more than you're saying. What did that dillhole do to get kicked off the candidates list?


Nope, I don't. CCP hasn't mentioned anything so far. Since members of CSM5 are running for re-election, I doubt they would out of concern it might offer some kind of insider knowledge advantage. *shrugs* Who knows. I suggest you email Kalrand and ask him directly what the situation is.

Update: I've posted a request to CCP Xhagen and CCP Diagoras to have a look at this thread and address your questions.

Brock Nelson
Posted - 2011.03.18 03:11:00 - [11]
 

I think its rather unsettling that somebody like Kalrand shows up for CSM election, people vote for him and then disappear without any explanation from CCP or Kalrand himself.

I've put in 3 votes for him

Dani Nardieu
Posted - 2011.03.18 03:18:00 - [12]
 

Rumor on the internet says:

Quote:

CCP has just taken the newly-introduced Hours for PLEX feature offline. The Account Management option was added to provide a more convenient way for EVE Online players who need a few hours of game time added to an expired account, allowing them to log in, redeem PLEX, and keep their account active.

Subsequently, we discovered that the feature could potentially be abused in the CSM voting process, and have temporarily disabled the Hours for PLEX offer.

We are currently evaluating the matter in order to determine to what extent, if any, this may have had on the CSM voting. An update will be posted when available.


Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.18 03:40:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
T2 BPOs have a negative impact on the game


They artificially deflate the cost of certain ships and modules. Sounds negative to me.

Mike Azariah
Posted - 2011.03.18 04:37:00 - [14]
 

In an interview CCP stated that they cannot link vote cast to player who cast it. They did this in the intent of anonymity but it has the added effect of making 'do-overs' impossible and having any means of 'fixing the dead vote' of the 4 hr accounts.

Now I know this disappoints many of you for whom I would have been the second choice and all those votes and your base belong to me buuuuuut . . . live with it. You voted for someone and they are gone, next time vaote for someone else.

Thano you for participating in the process.

m

CCP Xhagen

Posted - 2011.03.18 11:19:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
I already used up all my currently subbed accounts' votes; however, there's a thread on MD advising that Kalrand no longer shows up in the running for CSM.

Can anybody confirm this, and if so, can CCP please explain?

Thanks.

(If Kalrand -has- been removed, i would like to recast my votes for a candidate that is still eligible - after all, some of the CSM candidates' platforms are so far out of rational that I will vote for people I don't like in hopes of keeping those I think want to ruin the game out of the CSM).


Kalrand requested to have his candidacy withdrawn after the election started and thus we removed him from the candidacy list. Any votes for him will have to stay with him, as (it has been explained above) we cannot link votes to voters. The voting system was specifically designed to leave no record of what user voted (only that the user has voted), even though it leads to being unable to fulfill requests like this one.

Estel Arador
Posted - 2011.03.18 13:24:00 - [16]
 

Note that Kalrand made a post regarding this here.

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.18 20:56:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Weaselior on 18/03/2011 20:56:05
Originally by: CCP Xhagen

Kalrand requested to have his candidacy withdrawn after the election started and thus we removed him from the candidacy list. Any votes for him will have to stay with him, as (it has been explained above) we cannot link votes to voters. The voting system was specifically designed to leave no record of what user voted (only that the user has voted), even though it leads to being unable to fulfill requests like this one.


This is an incomplete version of events: specifically, he asked to be withdrawn after what I consider a valid complaint about CCP's conduct during the election process, and that complaint being given a dismissive response. However, I will let him make that case.

Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.19 03:33:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Weaselior
This is an incomplete version of events: specifically, he asked to be withdrawn after what I consider a valid complaint about CCP's conduct during the election process, and that complaint being given a dismissive response. However, I will let him make that case.


Until I've exhausted my means of internal protest, I'm not ready to "bring a case to the forums".


 

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