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TriadSte
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.17 10:10:00 - [1]
 

Why is there no normal spawning roid belts in WH space? why are they randomly spawned as Grav sites? Every normal space system has belts in it why not W space?

Eliza Capri
Posted - 2011.03.17 10:20:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: TriadSte
Why is there no normal spawning roid belts in WH space? why are they randomly spawned as Grav sites? Every normal space system has belts in it why not W space?


Because nothing is charted in WH space...

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2011.03.17 10:23:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: TriadSte
Why is there no normal spawning roid belts in WH space? why are they randomly spawned as Grav sites? Every normal space system has belts in it why not W space?


You have to scan down everything that's not a large celestial object in w-space, why would asteroid deposits be any different

Rheeii
Posted - 2011.03.17 11:13:00 - [4]
 

You're not really complaining that some of the best belts in the game, the ones that respawn with rediculous frequency in large quantities, have to be scanned down, are you?

Really?

Jaik7
Posted - 2011.03.17 13:44:00 - [5]
 

they don't respawn regularly. grav sites may be totally awesome but our wormhole often gets week long dry spells of no ore, and then the next day three spawn. it is totally random, which i dislike.

that said, anything that has a fair chance of spawning mercoxit shouldn't be a reguar occurence in an area adjecent to hisec. well, sometimes adjacent.

Remus Andromedus
Posted - 2011.03.17 13:48:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Rheeii
You're not really complaining that some of the best belts in the game, the ones that respawn with rediculous frequency in large quantities, have to be scanned down, are you?

Really?


It appears so, another entitled butt hurt player it seems.

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.03.17 14:08:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Jaik7
they don't respawn regularly. grav sites may be totally awesome but our wormhole often gets week long dry spells of no ore, and then the next day three spawn. it is totally random, which i dislike.

that said, anything that has a fair chance of spawning mercoxit shouldn't be a reguar occurence in an area adjecent to hisec. well, sometimes adjacent.


Tell me, when those three spawn, do you go and check them all out after scanning them?

shady trader
Posted - 2011.03.17 16:36:00 - [8]
 

You are aware I assume that CCP do have a long term plan to remove the current empire belts and replace them with ones that need to be scanned down?

Like a lot of this, WH space as allowed CCP to implement idea's that looking back they should have done for empire.

TriadSte
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.17 16:50:00 - [9]
 

No I am not complaining at all, in fact Im happy with the way we are going but the fact is we have long delays on grav sites in our WH it would be nice to get some more :)

Problem is this :

Every system has a belt and numerous planets

Wormhole space is the same, They have planets moons yet no belts.

Just a bit...weird

Linda Flamewalker
Posted - 2011.03.17 16:51:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: shady trader
You are aware I assume that CCP do have a long term plan to remove the current empire belts and replace them with ones that need to be scanned down?

Like a lot of this, WH space as allowed CCP to implement idea's that looking back they should have done for empire.


got a quote for that or just pulling it out of thin air?

Aessoroz
Nohbdy.
Posted - 2011.03.17 17:42:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: TriadSte
No I am not complaining at all, in fact Im happy with the way we are going but the fact is we have long delays on grav sites in our WH it would be nice to get some more :)



100% intended behavior, wormhole systems are not to be farmed at all, the spawn rates decrease rapidly when theres activity in a system on purpose. Learn to use connecting holes for sites.

Derus Grobb
Minmatar
Selectus Pravus Lupus
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2011.03.17 17:43:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Linda Flamewalker
Originally by: shady trader
You are aware I assume that CCP do have a long term plan to remove the current empire belts and replace them with ones that need to be scanned down?

Like a lot of this, WH space as allowed CCP to implement idea's that looking back they should have done for empire.


got a quote for that or just pulling it out of thin air?


http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=458

They've been talking about it for years

fiizzzzzzy
Posted - 2011.03.17 17:44:00 - [13]
 

4/10

fair question, lack of knowledge, question answered

Hesperius
Posted - 2011.03.17 18:12:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: TriadSte
Why is there no normal spawning roid belts in WH space? why are they randomly spawned as Grav sites? Every normal space system has belts in it why not W space?

Don't be shocked if "normal belts" are removed.

T'Laar Bok
Posted - 2011.03.17 18:41:00 - [15]
 

For dedicated miners WS space is a total waste of time. I left our corps WS space THREE MONTHS ago after eating everything in about 2 weeks (8 belts, 3 gas). Only last week did they respawn and my corp expects me to come back! pppffftttt. Thats just stupid, once again CCP screws over the miner.

robocpf1
Minmatar
B.O.O.M
Obsidian Mining Coalition
Posted - 2011.03.18 14:07:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: T'Laar Bok
For dedicated miners WS space is a total waste of time. I left our corps WS space THREE MONTHS ago after eating everything in about 2 weeks (8 belts, 3 gas). Only last week did they respawn and my corp expects me to come back! pppffftttt. Thats just stupid, once again CCP screws over the miner.


I don't know if it's necessarily "screwing over the miner", I mean when you think about it...did you have access to close-proximity nullsec ore before, in highsec space?

Wormholes are a free lunch to anyone able to take advantage of them. There are corps specifically based around hunting down and killing miners in wormholes now, and while as a miner myself I find it highly annoying (one of my ops got stealth-bombed just two days ago) I also accept that it's a good part of the metagame and a neat idea.

The chance to find a wormhole with huge nullsec asteroids that's linked to a highsec system is a boon to miners, not screwing them over. That's essentially saying "well, these wormholes are nice, and we didn't have the access to the ores before, but they're sh** because we don't have access to the ore 24/7, 365." They weren't there before! It's still an improvement. If you want constant access to nullsec ore then nullsec is the place you should be, not in wormholes.

Just my two isk.

To the OP: wormholes are completely unknown and uncharted, this is not space anyone has occupied for many, many years. Asteroid belts have the smallest signature of any other scannable location, so without knowing where they are beforehand (in empire space the capsuleers and mortals have had years to map out the systems, they're charted and you can access the fruits of their cartography by right-clicking in space). However in wormholes there is nothing mapped. You can see the Planets and Moons because...well, they're planet- and moon-sized and your ship can pick up their locations. Asteroid belts are tiny in comparison to the planets and moons, and they don't send out any sort of signal or anything and don't have ships in them by default - they're just big rocks rolling around in space. It makes very good sense that in wormholes you don't get the asteroid locations by default.

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.03.18 14:10:00 - [17]
 

Because it wasn't easy enough to gank w-space miners.

Knug LiDi
N00bFleeT
Posted - 2011.04.11 19:19:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Aessoroz
Originally by: TriadSte
No I am not complaining at all, in fact Im happy with the way we are going but the fact is we have long delays on grav sites in our WH it would be nice to get some more :)



100% intended behavior, wormhole systems are not to be farmed at all, the spawn rates decrease rapidly when theres activity in a system on purpose. Learn to use connecting holes for sites.


I agree that the grav sites should be random. However, it has been a charted MONTH since the last grav site appeared in our wh. Sleepers? no problem 4-6 sites each and every day. We don't have the manpower to clear them out daily. Ladar? no problem always seems to be 4-6 per day. Grav? Used to come in spurts 2-3 in a weeks time, then nothing for a 10 days. What has changed? I'm willing to bet CCP has decided that lower class WH should not have nullsec ore.

Irani Firecam
Posted - 2011.04.11 19:24:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Aessoroz
Originally by: TriadSte
No I am not complaining at all, in fact Im happy with the way we are going but the fact is we have long delays on grav sites in our WH it would be nice to get some more :)



100% intended behavior, wormhole systems are not to be farmed at all, the spawn rates decrease rapidly when theres activity in a system on purpose. Learn to use connecting holes for sites.

What's your source on this? As I understood when I lived in a wormhole system, sites respawn in another system within the same constellation.

Knug LiDi
N00bFleeT
Posted - 2011.04.11 19:27:00 - [20]
 

Quote:

What's your source on this? As I understood when I lived in a wormhole system, sites respawn in another system within the same constellation.


So I should be angry with folks in the rest of the constellation for not mining their grav's as they are 'hoarding' them ?

Boltorano
Fourth Circle
Total Comfort
Posted - 2011.04.11 19:30:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Knug LiDi
Quote:

What's your source on this? As I understood when I lived in a wormhole system, sites respawn in another system within the same constellation.


So I should be angry with folks in the rest of the constellation for not mining their grav's as they are 'hoarding' them ?


Or region, yes.

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.04.11 19:34:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Knug LiDi
Quote:

What's your source on this? As I understood when I lived in a wormhole system, sites respawn in another system within the same constellation.


So I should be angry with folks in the rest of the constellation for not mining their grav's as they are 'hoarding' them ?


It's just smart to activate one at a time and don't activate another until that one disappears. Why activate another before you've depleted the one you're on? It's a waste of ore. You only have three to five days once activated (sometimes less on those ones with the damned clouds that grow...) to suck one dry, so it's really a bad idea for anyone to tap them early.

Irani Firecam
Posted - 2011.04.11 19:35:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Irani Firecam on 11/04/2011 19:35:53
If it was the case that all of wormhole space is populated, then yes, or just remove them and mine the ores yourself. We used to go around other systems and activate all the sites so their despawn timer gets started, even the populated systems. Razz

Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see
Chained Reactions
Posted - 2011.04.11 19:40:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Karak Terrel on 11/04/2011 19:41:18
Originally by: Jaik7
they don't respawn regularly. grav sites may be totally awesome but our wormhole often gets week long dry spells of no ore, and then the next day three spawn. it is totally random, which i dislike.



Don't scan all 3 to 100% ??!

eehh. was to late

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2011.04.11 19:45:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: TriadSte
No I am not complaining at all, in fact Im happy with the way we are going but the fact is we have long delays on grav sites in our WH it would be nice to get some more :)

Scan the static and mine in there. You get a new system every day, or whenever you want to bother closing that static.

You did choose a system with a static to another w-space system, right? Otherwise I'd move.

rock crawlermne
Posted - 2011.04.11 20:13:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: TriadSte
Why is there no normal spawning roid belts in WH space? why are they randomly spawned as Grav sites? Every normal space system has belts in it why not W space?



I took the liberty in highlighting your error in assuming Cool. WH space is far from normal.

Cozmik R5
Minmatar
Dock 94
Posted - 2011.04.11 21:46:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: TriadSte
Why is there no normal spawning roid belts in WH space? why are they randomly spawned as Grav sites? Every normal space system has belts in it why not W space?


To make carebears work for a change!


 

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