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lushn
Posted - 2011.03.16 07:55:00 - [1]
 



Seriously I wasnt thiking to vote.

As we see in the past, probably they all will run for Big alliance's interests, How they can destroy abandoned outposts, how they change jump bridges, soveignties etc.

If There is any candiate who is one of us,
who will protect rights of highsec players, not big aliances,
who will try to make eve more newbie friendly not the arena of some old hardcore's ego.


Then Im ready to vote and call my friends for vote..




Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2011.03.16 08:19:00 - [2]
 

I'm not a representative of big alliances,

I'm unbiased when it comes to living region (check the quotes in my candidacy thread).

That doesn't mean I want to nerf 0.0 to oblivion or want to quadruple the revenue of level 3-4 missions, my objective is to achieve balance and help create a universe that has potential for everyone willing, be they part of a large or small group of players. One that has engaging gameplay and fun no matter where they live.

Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
Posted - 2011.03.16 08:43:00 - [3]
 

I am very neutral in my comments, although naturally I hate RMT & Botting so I tend to criticise Mittani & NC I will comment on the following CSM

Mittani - Wants to save jump bridges, remove PvP from 0.0 and prevent number warfare from getting nerfed, 100% focused on preserving NCs NAP train, sadly expect him to already be in as well his flying monkeys have already probably spam voted him, oblivious to what he actually wants todo.

Vile Rat - I cant really criticise Vile Rat too much tbh, unlike Mittani Vile Rat actually has alot of decent ideas that somewhat seems a little neutral but chances are his CSM ambition is much like Mittani’s

Other NC minions - Inconsistent brown nosers, not even worth the time to debate, I suppose it is suicidal going after the leader in the animal kingdom, but this isnt RL so heh why not

Seleene - Ok ideas, but can you really ignore the fact that he was on the team that made motherships from **** and unused to overused and overpowered.

Krutoj - Decent guy, but hardly made an effort in the campaigning, besides with so much bad press on DRF botting / RMT I dont think it was smart to comment on how "he was going to fix botting" especially when it is encouraged and ignored in the east.

Prom - One of the few CSM that actually has a clue about PvP, the only one to mention the command ship issues and actually has the best ship change ideas, an ideal choice if you want PvP changes that make sense.

Trebor - A wide range of neutral ideas, was in CSM5 and did a great job, probably one of the few CSM that want to make EVE better for everyone, imo you should vote for him if you want ideas free from big alliance agendas

There are some other good CSM candidates, but it depends on what you want changing or focused on, for example if you work heavily with third party apps or dev tools then you will probably want to vote for Peterpowers or if you want 0.0 to have more action, less NAPing and more risk (since 0.0 is safer than hi-sec atm) then I guess Elise would be a good choice.

TLDR: Dont vote for anyone in NC, they already have announced they want to ruin 0.0 more so than they have already. If you want a neutral CSM then vote for Trebor, he has proven to be useful, helpful and actually wants to help CCP make EVE better.

Imigo Montoya
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.16 08:45:00 - [4]
 

While I'm part of a big alliance, my allegience is first and foremost to the game. No single part of EVE exists in isolation, whether Empire, nullsec, WHs, industry, PvP, whatever. EVE has it's appeals to a wide variety of people and play styles, which is one of its great strengths.

So I'm not for protecting anybody's "rights" as such, I am for protecting the integrity of the gameplay experience for everybody.

Imigo Montoya
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.16 08:48:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Kalle Demos
I am very neutral in my comments...


PFFFFSSSHHHTT - I just spat out my drink all over my screen and stopped reading right there!!!

Ms PacMan
Caldari
Eye of God
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2011.03.16 08:58:00 - [6]
 

Not in an alliance but i am nullsec.

So, best of both

Jonathon Silence
Thorny Rose Enterprises
Posted - 2011.03.16 09:00:00 - [7]
 

There are a number of good Non 0.0 Candidates.

I suggest you look at the vote match site and see which candidate best matches your EVE directions and then have a chat with them.

LaughingOr you can just vote for me!!Laughing

Trebor Daehdoow
Gallente
Sane Industries Inc.
Posted - 2011.03.16 09:46:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Kalle Demos
TLDR: Dont vote for anyone in NC, they already have announced they want to ruin 0.0 more so than they have already. If you want a neutral CSM then vote for Trebor, he has proven to be useful, helpful and actually wants to help CCP make EVE better.

While I appreciate Kalle's kind words, I would be remiss if I did not point out that they also apply to quite a few candidates, such as Meissa Anunthiel, Seleene, Ripard Teg, Jonathon Silence, and Roc Weiler. I recommend you check out their campaign platforms and threads (and mine, of course) before making your final decision.

Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.03.16 09:55:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Seleene on 16/03/2011 10:18:57

Originally by: Kalle Demos
Seleene - Ok ideas, but can you really ignore the fact that he was on the team that made motherships from **** and unused to overused and overpowered.


This flag is waved by folks who just seem to want to look for problems with my campaign overall and EVE in general. If you want a bit more background on this, I've covered that in this blog post: A few words on Supercap Rage. I don't deny things are ****ed atm, but the real issue is that these kind of balance changes should be receiving much more attention than just looking at them every few years.

As for the rest, I'm in a 0.0 alliance at the moment but our alliance ticker is [FAIL] and I heard that we just let Bobby Atlas join one of the corps... Very Happy (>3 Bobby)

On a more serious note, as Trebor said, there are quite a few "null-sec" candidates who have a lot more on their mind than just preserving the status quo. If you would like to know why I am running for CSM or what I did when I worked at CCP you can click the links. Feel free to explore my blog or my campaign thread as well and you'll quickly see that I don't favor any one particular style of gameplay over any other.

In particular you mentioned being able to destroy abandoned outposts. You should probably read my blog post about that: LINKAGE

The focus of EVE's iteration should be on ensuring that all elements of the game continue to evolve as equally as possible because it's all connected on some level. Smile


Gehen Sealbreaker
Amarr
Posted - 2011.03.16 10:33:00 - [10]
 

I think most of the good candidates are going to view all playstyles equal, no matter the region.
Of course, not all candidates are good...

Hisec mission runner and 0.0 anomaly farmer are two different kinds of people, just like hisec suicide ganker and 0.0 fleet warfare expert are... But we need all of them.

I believe EVE is a game where there is enjoyment for everyone, and will try to make it as balanced as I can if elected.
If you need extra "proof", I am not part of any alliance atm, and don't plan to enter any sov holding alliance in the near future.

Draco Llasa
Thundercats
Posted - 2011.03.16 13:46:00 - [11]
 

i have posted on many occasions that while im part of a large 0.0 alliance, i am not a 0.0 only advocate. im using my 0.0 experience to understand all livable areas better and help bring an understanding of all areas of game play.

Additionally there are a few NC based candidates that are not simply NC monkeys running to control seats.. please don't generalize us al into that bucket.

E man Industries
Posted - 2011.03.16 15:13:00 - [12]
 

Rippard has spent a lot of time in Empire(use to run lvl 4's w/ him)
He knows the empire side of the game very well and is running on behalf of a large alliance block.

He has also been tasked by the OLD CSM's not running witht he Faction Warfare revitalization and other empire issues.

Mike Azariah
Posted - 2011.03.16 15:42:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: lushn
[b]
If There is any candiate who is one of us,
who will protect rights of highsec players, not big aliances,
who will try to make eve more newbie friendly not the arena of some old hardcore's ego.




Me

I have a blog detailing missioning and hisec activities.
I care about the new player experience due to my years as a teacher.
I currently am not in an alliance and the one I WAS in was so hisec carebearish we would sometimes try to save the better rocks.

on the other hand

I have flown with the Bastards, sat in gate camps as part of OUCH, and written about the past two sessions of CSM 4 and 5.
I do know the other side(s) of the coin.

But I have no ties to null sec alliances . . . . no agenda to grind save that which the electorate will give me.

Me

Mike Azariah

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Kumi Katana
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.03.16 15:50:00 - [14]
 

I am one that is here for ALL capsuleers, not specifically having my own corp and alliance in mind. Would be nice to have a little reward coming to my corp, but it isn't my goal. My goal is to improve EVE Online for everyone in general, may it be newby, high sec roamer, low sec pilots, pirates or.. well yes pains me to say, but even goons in a way. I want to focus on EVE itself instead of personal agenda's like most have. improving the game will be good for everyone in the long run.

Yes, I am mostly for high sec here. And Yes I want to add additional tutorials to explain several aspects of PvP, what goons do, scamming issues, etc. so that new pilots also know about this and less of such problems will occur. The goons made EVE so bad that hardly anyone trusts the other, not even own corp members (unless RL friends I guess).

Alsyth
Night Warder
Posted - 2011.03.16 22:16:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Alsyth on 16/03/2011 22:34:07
Edited by: Alsyth on 16/03/2011 22:27:31
Originally by: lushn


Seriously I wasnt thiking to vote.

As we see in the past, probably they all will run for Big alliance's interests, How they can destroy abandoned outposts, how they change jump bridges, soveignties etc.

If There is any candiate who is one of us,
who will protect rights of highsec players, not big aliances,
who will try to make eve more newbie friendly not the arena of some old hardcore's ego.


Then Im ready to vote and call my friends for vote..






I think I am the candidate you are looking for.


I'm an Empire player. Never really been to 0.0 (except to get podkilled in a megablob campgate once)

I am not part of an Alliance, I'm CEO of my own 10 members corp, and I play with my friends in other Empire corps/small alliances (<100 players).

I want to represent Empire players, I feel like 5 years old 0.0 players can't understand Empire players any more, and that's why I'm running.

In game I am an anti-pirate low-sec pvper, teaching pvp to young players everyday, and helping my industrial friends to fight against pirates and hi-sec griefers.
It doesn't mean I only know that kind of game though, I play with industrials, miners, missionners, explorers every single day, and pirates are my FOOOOD, so I want them to be happy in lowsec too YARRRR!!.

I'm also interested in 0.0, but not the napfest/powerbloc 0.0 we have right now. I think my external views on 0.0 might help the CSM somehow, because I'm not used to 0.0 as it is now, and I have no personal advantages to protect, I will only try to improve 0.0 as a whole, especially for smaller entities and small gangs.


Feel free to contact me ingame (convo or evemail)
My original thread : http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1475957

General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2011.03.16 22:29:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: lushn


Seriously I wasnt thiking to vote.

As we see in the past, probably they all will run for Big alliance's interests, How they can destroy abandoned outposts, how they change jump bridges, soveignties etc.

If There is any candiate who is one of us,
who will protect rights of highsec players, not big aliances,
who will try to make eve more newbie friendly not the arena of some old hardcore's ego.


Then Im ready to vote and call my friends for vote..







As you'll see from my website, and how stroppy NC/Goon/Test posters get around me, my primary focus is to prevent the game becoming a 0.0 alliance love in - join the cause, brother.

Issler Dainze
Minmatar
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
Posted - 2011.03.16 22:37:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: lushn


Seriously I wasnt thiking to vote.

As we see in the past, probably they all will run for Big alliance's interests, How they can destroy abandoned outposts, how they change jump bridges, soveignties etc.

If There is any candiate who is one of us,
who will protect rights of highsec players, not big aliances,
who will try to make eve more newbie friendly not the arena of some old hardcore's ego.


Then Im ready to vote and call my friends for vote..






I think I am exactly the candidate you are looking for. I have consistently supported getting CCP to pay more attention to the Eve experience of players not in big alliances or not focused on hard core 0.0 play. I hope you'll take a moment and look at my campaign web page. I think you might find I'm someone you could feel good about voting for.




Issler Dainze CSM Platform

Issler Dainze
The Voice of Reason CSM Candidate

Manalapan
Dynasty Banking
General Tso's Alliance
Posted - 2011.03.17 04:16:00 - [18]
 

I definitely an not a puppet of 0.0 alliances. If you look at my campaign I am focused on things to fix high sec.

Draco Llasa
Thundercats
Posted - 2011.03.17 19:20:00 - [19]
 

I think many of you guys are just missing the point. As a CSM member you have to represent the eve community.. you are NOT going to get to make changes for YOUR cause, you are going to work with CCP to provide feedback on issues and ideas based on your understanding of game play and the overall community.

A candidate that doesn't understand 0.0 cant possible understand the implication of his/her recommendation on overall game play, and in reverse and 0.0 only candidate cant represent empire players. A candidate that is advocating for 1 specific thing or another is not going to serve the best interest of the community overall.
You may advocate to fix guns that suck for missioning, but do you understand how that will affect pvp, you may recommend a change for High sec mining, do you have any idea what that will do for WH or 0.0 mining. You may want to add jump drives to orcas, or hulks with 4 lasers, or make megathron uber l33t with rails, but can you understand the affects those changes will have on every other area where that 1 change could be used.

Myself and a few others actually actively play in both empire and 0.0, in both pvp and industrial/pve roles. You should really think about a candidate that will represent and understand as much as possible.

Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2011.03.17 19:39:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Draco Llasa
I think many of you guys are just missing the point. As a CSM member you have to represent the eve community.. you are NOT going to get to make changes for YOUR cause, you are going to work with CCP to provide feedback on issues and ideas based on your understanding of game play and the overall community.

A candidate that doesn't understand 0.0 cant possible understand the implication of his/her recommendation on overall game play, and in reverse and 0.0 only candidate cant represent empire players. A candidate that is advocating for 1 specific thing or another is not going to serve the best interest of the community overall.
You may advocate to fix guns that suck for missioning, but do you understand how that will affect pvp, you may recommend a change for High sec mining, do you have any idea what that will do for WH or 0.0 mining. You may want to add jump drives to orcas, or hulks with 4 lasers, or make megathron uber l33t with rails, but can you understand the affects those changes will have on every other area where that 1 change could be used.

Myself and a few others actually actively play in both empire and 0.0, in both pvp and industrial/pve roles. You should really think about a candidate that will represent and understand as much as possible.


Agreed, I think that omment you just made applies to a lot of candidates, 0.0 and non-0.0 alike.

The vast majority of a term is spent discussing things that are not one's pet issues. As such it is extremely important to have people who have the required knowledge and interest in all areas of the game not to be dead weight in 80% of the conversations, as has happened regularly...


Alsyth
Night Warder
Posted - 2011.03.17 21:12:00 - [21]
 

I disagree : "Jack of all trades, master of none"


I would rather have :

a CSM with specialized players who can champion for some specific cause relevant to their own playstyle, and convince -or not- other non-specialized CSM members solely on the quality of their speech and their ideas.

rather than

a CSM full of 0.0 citizens, most of them in powerblocs, most of them thinking 0.0 is the only endgame, some of them also playing in empire sometimes (for trade and production only ?), with no one really playing with Empire dwellers on a daily basis.
With this kind of CSM, 0.0 decisions would be taken only to please powerblocs lobbies. And Empire matters just won't be discussed because it is not their interest. Or worse, they will be discussed, to nerf lvl4 and other things to bring more people to 0.0.




What kind of CSM do you want ?


Vote for me Cool

General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2011.03.17 21:18:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Alsyth
I disagree : "Jack of all trades, master of none"


I would rather have :

a CSM with specialized players who can champion for some specific cause relevant to their own playstyle, and convince -or not- other non-specialized CSM members solely on the quality of their speech and their ideas.

rather than

a CSM full of 0.0 citizens, most of them in powerblocs, most of them thinking 0.0 is the only endgame, some of them also playing in empire sometimes (for trade and production only ?), with no one really playing with Empire dwellers on a daily basis.
With this kind of CSM, 0.0 decisions would be taken only to please powerblocs lobbies. And Empire matters just won't be discussed because it is not their interest. Or worse, they will be discussed, to nerf lvl4 and other things to bring more people to 0.0.




What kind of CSM do you want ?


Vote for me Cool


Wow, lots of people trying to steal my message, huh?

Alsyth
Night Warder
Posted - 2011.03.17 21:20:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: General Windypops
Wow, lots of people trying to steal my message, huh?


Do you honestly think you are the only one who thought of that spontaneously ?

Draco Llasa
Thundercats
Posted - 2011.03.17 21:30:00 - [24]
 

first off i have nothing against any single game play style.. but .. as a high sec player only.. do you really think you can fairly represent, low sec, 0.0, or WH life? Sure you may represent high sec very well, but you are uneducated or inexperienced and there for useless on other matters. Look for a candidate that understands as many areas as possible.

Yes, my main char spends life in 0.0 and low sec and i use this char almsot every night, during the day i work very closely with friends that live in high sec and worm holes. That ice mine, ore mine, manufacture, research/invent, and mission run. Let me repeat this.. i work with them DAILY.. i am not a 0.0 ***** that hears about high sec.. i deal with both on a regular basis

Specialization and special interested are great and they have their place.. But there are only a couple open CSM seats.. Do you really want that seat taken by a special interest person that doesn't represent the community as a whole? yes in some case that's you, high sec candidates.. and others is those 0.0 powerbloc candidates that are only running to represent 0.0 interests... i'm just saying i'm not either of those special interest people.

General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2011.03.17 21:36:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Draco Llasa
first off i have nothing against any single game play style.. but .. as a high sec player only.. do you really think you can fairly represent, low sec, 0.0, or WH life? Sure you may represent high sec very well, but you are uneducated or inexperienced and there for useless on other matters. Look for a candidate that understands as many areas as possible.

Yes, my main char spends life in 0.0 and low sec and i use this char almsot every night, during the day i work very closely with friends that live in high sec and worm holes. That ice mine, ore mine, manufacture, research/invent, and mission run. Let me repeat this.. i work with them DAILY.. i am not a 0.0 ***** that hears about high sec.. i deal with both on a regular basis

Specialization and special interested are great and they have their place.. But there are only a couple open CSM seats.. Do you really want that seat taken by a special interest person that doesn't represent the community as a whole? yes in some case that's you, high sec candidates.. and others is those 0.0 powerbloc candidates that are only running to represent 0.0 interests... i'm just saying i'm not either of those special interest people.



Um, Draco, are you honestly suggesting that the CSM will have no 0.0 specialists in it??! The whole thing has been one massive stitch up between your NC alliance, TEST and Goons. There will be a MINIMUM of 6 of you on the CSM.


Draco Llasa
Thundercats
Posted - 2011.03.17 21:40:00 - [26]
 

where in the world did i say that.. please do not imply or infer intent..

If you actually pay attention you will see that im advocating against special interest groups.. 0.0 or any other.. again, please read first..

"and others is those 0.0 powerbloc candidates that are only running to represent 0.0 interests"

im not saying they aren't here, im saying im not one of them and voters should not vote for special interest candidates. Im saying it SHOULDN'T not that it wont

General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2011.03.17 21:44:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Draco Llasa
where in the world did i say that.. please do not imply or infer intent..

If you actually pay attention you will see that im advocating against special interest groups.. 0.0 or any other.. again, please read first..

"and others is those 0.0 powerbloc candidates that are only running to represent 0.0 interests"

im not saying they aren't here, im saying im not one of them and voters should not vote for special interest candidates. Im saying it SHOULDN'T not that it wont


So how do you feel about the attempt your alliance and others have made to make the CSM a 0.0 only club? Will you be speaking out against them if you're elected to the CSM?


Alsyth
Night Warder
Posted - 2011.03.17 21:51:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Alsyth on 17/03/2011 21:55:49
Originally by: Draco Llasa
first off i have nothing against any single game play style.. but .. as a high sec player only.. do you really think you can fairly represent, low sec, 0.0, or WH life? Sure you may represent high sec very well, but you are uneducated or inexperienced and there for useless on other matters. Look for a candidate that understands as many areas as possible.


Empire* player only, in fact. I spend most of my active play time in low sec.

I know my own limitations (I fear many other candidates don't : they have the "been there done that, thus I know everything" syndrome), and I know I can not represent 0.0 players well, because I don't know how 0.0 really work, since I've never lived there.
But what I can promise is I will listen to them anyway, wether they are from powerblocs, small alliances...

And, more importantly, my votes as a CSM member on subjects I don't know will be driven by logic -and I can assure you I am a logical and thoughtful person- and the wish to make the game better as a whole, given what players wants according to forums and discussions.
I believe this is a lot better than decisions taken by players who have many assets that might be impacted, for instance.


Quote:
Specialization and special interested are great and they have their place.. But there are only a couple open CSM seats.. Do you really want that seat taken by a special interest person that doesn't represent the community as a whole? yes in some case that's you, high sec candidates.. and others is those 0.0 powerbloc candidates that are only running to represent 0.0 interests... i'm just saying i'm not either of those special interest people.


Voters will decide. But I feel like Empire voters might want someone who have no link to 0.0. Who could balance the CSM more than a real Empire player, when lots of seats will be taken by powerblocs and other 0.0 players ?
Besides, these players already know 0.0, no need to have a Jack of all trades, choose an Empire champion instead !

Draco Llasa
Thundercats
Posted - 2011.03.17 21:51:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: General Windypops


So how do you feel about the attempt your alliance and others have made to make the CSM a 0.0 only club? Will you be speaking out against them if you're elected to the CSM?



My alliance has only 1 candidate running... Me.. however, i strongly oppose any formal attempt to have NC or any other solely 0.0 players fill CSM seats if they are only representing their own 0.0 interests. the one thing to remember is that 0.0 makes up a very large number of very serious players.. so its only natural to expect them to have a high representation in the list of candidates.. and in turn since NC is a very large 0.0 group that by default means there will be a large number of them, its not a direct reference of conspiracy, and with the exception of Goons pretty much no NC alliance has more than 1 player running.

But yes back to your original question. i do formally oppose a CSM made up of special interest 0.0 (or any other) members. Which may be why i'm not a canidate that is formally endorsed by NC (or maybe they just don't like me)

General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2011.03.17 21:59:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Draco Llasa
0.0 makes up a very large number of very serious players.. so its only natural to expect them to have a high representation


So given that you yourself acknowledge that 0.0 megaalliance players like you and your mates will already be overwhelmingly represented already why do we need more of you? Why are you trying to claim that it's 'imbalanced' in some way to have one or maybe 2 empire specialists out of 9 seats on the CSM?



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