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Lone Thinker
Posted - 2011.03.15 19:51:00 - [1]
 

In real life, countries limit the number of representatives elected by geographic region.

Can the majority of the CSM can be taken over by the NC/Goon block?

Simply by putting up a huge number of candidates on the Voting Match Page from the same alliance block, with each NC/Goon candidate voicing different positions for each issue, the odds of a typical Eve player "finding" a Goon match is too high. Will these NC/Goons actually stick true to their issue positions, or will they bow to the real NC/Goon leaders and comply with the wishes of their alliance after they win election Question

Takashi Kaeda
Posted - 2011.03.15 20:56:00 - [2]
 

In real life, if more people live in one area, they deserve a larger representation.

Now, what the NC does have going for them is that most nullsec players have 5+ accounts they are voting with, where as the awesome mission gameplayers might have one, maybe two.

If you don't like it, subscribe for more accounts.

Lone Thinker
Posted - 2011.03.15 21:02:00 - [3]
 

Heh, this leads to one-party system ...

Who wants NC/Goon to establish a one-party communist CSM?

Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
Posted - 2011.03.15 21:10:00 - [4]
 

This can easily be exploited, you can just do what most of them do (notice Two Shots who foolishly did this too late hahaha) leave the powerblock, create a corp of their own with something like "Vote 4 me".

I should have really ran for CSM this year, looked like alot of fun :D I probably wouldnt have got in (unless voting for self-counted).

Oh well we will still have this special moment

Remember guys, a vote for NC is a vote for buffing supercaps, buffing number warfare and nerfing PvP.

Takashi Kaeda
Posted - 2011.03.15 21:15:00 - [5]
 

GOONSWARM IS CHINA!

WHITE TREE IS KIM-JONG!

WE WILL ALL BURN UNDER ONE FLAG!

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Kuar Z'thain
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.15 21:29:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Lone Thinker
Heh, this leads to one-party system ...

Who wants NC/Goon to establish a one-party communist CSM?

Ask my guys getting paid 150% reimbursement for their PVP losses just how bad Space Communism is.

Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
Posted - 2011.03.15 21:34:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Takashi Kaeda
GOONSWARM IS CHINA!

WHITE TREE IS KIM-JONG!

WE WILL ALL BURN UNDER ONE FLAG!

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Actually NC is North Korea

Kim Jong Lau = Kim Jong Il = Vuk Lau, hmm?

Goonswarm is ermm, name a country that has done absolutely nothing on its own and to save itself from dying a third time took in alot of TCF refugees, I cant think of any myself tbh.

Mittani is Sarah Palin

The rest are just numbers or bots

Originally by: NC in short (Stolen from SHC)
Morsus Mihi are the top dogs. Then there's Razor I think. Which are quite ****. Then there's just a long list of alliances which are all different shades of ****

General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2011.03.15 21:53:00 - [8]
 

An I am Switzerland, famed for my neutral impartiality.

Extreme
Eye of God
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2011.03.15 22:04:00 - [9]
 

Tinfoil in Japan then...


Pirokobo
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.15 22:17:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Kalle Demos
Mittani is Sarah Palin

There's a difference between being surrounded by ******s and giving birth to them.

The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.15 22:28:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Takashi Kaeda
GOONSWARM IS CHINA!

WHITE TREE IS KIM-JONG!

WE WILL ALL BURN UNDER ONE FLAG!

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that banner owns owns owns

Moscow Blue
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.15 23:32:00 - [12]
 

bloc.

Imigo Montoya
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.16 00:16:00 - [13]
 

I would like to take this opportunity that we are all players involved in a game. Who a candidate usually shoots at matters far less than who they are, how well they know the game, and what RL experience they can bring to the CSM table.

All I ask is that players look past the Us vs Them political frenzy and look at who the candidates are and which one will best represent all players.

Of course my totally unbiased opinion is that the best candidate is me!

Time Funnel
Posted - 2011.03.16 03:10:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: General Windypops
An I am Switzerland, famed for my neutral impartiality.



Lolwindypops!

Time Funnel
Posted - 2011.03.16 03:18:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Lone Thinker

Can the majority of the CSM can be taken over by the NC/Goon block?



Can Lone Thinker eat 35 hotdogs in 1 hour?

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.03.16 03:27:00 - [16]
 

If that is not a euphemism, then no.

Blu'lite Special
Posted - 2011.03.16 03:56:00 - [17]
 

if I understand this thread correctly it was, "whaaaaa, I don't have as many friends as Mittens and Vuk." Then a bunch of people comparing others to political entities that have no similarities to the actual players. Vuk's nothing like a North Korean dictator, Mittens like a nut job pseudo-religious conservative bobblehead? nah.

As far as a leader, I've always envisioned Mittens as the goalie mask dude in Roadwarrior, or Tina Turner in Thunderdome. In charge because they can't really find anyone with as much sense or vision, so the mob obeys...to a point. As far as I've witnessed, no one controls the Goons, the mob is just steered. As long as the mob finds the targets entertaining, they play along.

For Vuk, he's more along the lines of Scarface or a hands on mobster. Bribes are made, people are paid, but he gets his own hands dirty, too. He makes good on pacts and deals, and to my knowledge, he's never backstabbed a friend. As for the Kim Jong Il harem....what happens in 4S stays in 4S.

RDevz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.16 11:51:00 - [18]
 

How would this be workable? What's to stop each designated CSM candidate setting up non-affiliated alts that can't be linked to an account in a Cluster****/NC corporation? After all, I've been instructed to vote for a specific individual (Vile Rat best rat) - it makes absolutely no difference to me as to which corporation that character is in...

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.16 17:08:00 - [19]
 

sucks to be you

Chinwe Rhei
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2011.03.16 18:18:00 - [20]
 

The best way to have a fair impartial CSM is to make it a lottery instead of voting.

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2011.03.16 18:38:00 - [21]
 

Even though I have my likes and dislikes towards certain candidacies I have to strongly disagree with the OP.

You can't compare the CSM to a nations government. This alone due to the fact whereas a government is elected not only to represent but also to lead and decide the course of action the CSM is merely a tool to help CCP to get player issues served more clearly and act as a soundboard.

Next to that excluding people or powerblocks from the CSM elections purely because they come from such blocks is the same as opening votings only to those whom you might like or dislike.

If you feel strongly for a certain candidate you help his of her campaign. If you feel strongly adverse to a candidate you present your concerns and let people decide.

CCP opens the CSM seats for anyone who qualifies and puts in an application for it.
But comparing an internet game with real life is just plain ******ed. Because in real life if I would get slammed hard for certain actions or inactions I do ingame.

And also how politics run where you are from might differ from where I am from. Here it's that people have to have a certain bottom limit of people who support you, if you reach that then you can also run your candidacy.

Next to that even if the majority of the CSM would be taken by the NC and it's brosefs, do you really think CCP will do gameimplementations to benefit that group without it benefitting the rest of EVE aswel?

You could give the CSM AND CCP a bit more credit than that.

Feligast
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.16 19:48:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Chinwe Rhei
The best way to have a completely useless, idiotic, and splintered CSM is to make it a lottery instead of voting.



FYP.

Pirokobo
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.17 02:29:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Chinwe Rhei
The best way to have a fair impartial CSM is to make it a lottery instead of voting.



And then replace the lottery two years later but let everyone who got on with it keep their seats permanently.


 

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