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Kell Tarhun
Posted - 2011.03.12 11:41:00 - [1]
 

My name is Kell Tarhun and i am proud to announce i will not vote for any CSM candidate.

Reason why not:

- i see no point in giving rights to start support action on my name when i personally got no influence or interest in it.

When i am interested in something i give my own opinion in proper place for example forum, or reporting somehow to proper place.
Limiting my own voice to voice to some dude who thinks he might be better representing myself just beacuase 1000 voted for him i find stupid.
If suicaidal self exploding leader of 2000 votes is more important than Santa or even better example: how about representing men of top 1000 models in their relations with those 1000 models while their free time. WHo wouldn't like to. Does it make sense for those models? Nope. I bet that lucky guy would die happy.
Making structures that gives rights to being heard better as ccp suggest makes me personally sick. FOR ME IT IS JUST APROVING SOMEONE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOU AVARAGE EVE PLAYER If i do not accept sth i can just quit and do not pay my share to Eve Online community.

- i feel personally offended by idea OF CSM.

CSM candidates got no rights to implement anything - they can just talk. I do not thing that Eve players are not capable of writing or talking - even with mistaces as me, my language is understandable.

- Those representants are minority of EVE ONLINE.

This game got way more players than couple of CSM candidates voted by players.
I u think that president or politican of your own country represent your interests in any way i think you might be naive.
What is more they will get propably some votes however with same pleasure i can vote for pizza, lasagne. That food could represent me in pretty same way as CSM candidates.

- I belive every players should be represented by himself.

Do you feel better when someone else talking about some stuff in your name? Even if in many cases he might be right there are lots of situation when u will disagree with his opinion. BUT YOU VOTED for him it means damage was done and you can nothing. He will represent your ideas even if he get mentaly sick while that.


TO CSM candidates:

I personally not attend to harm your feelings or argue with your ideas or that you want to sell your soul to CCP's game. You are interested in making real ideas in way you find interesting. You put lots of effort to to get support in game mechanic ccp organised. Propably less or more succesfull. However in this game i belive EVERY PLAYER IS IMPORTANT. So making you more important than guy who just play this game for fun and ocasionally write his opinion i find very very wrong.
Thats why i am not going to support any of you.
Not because you are right or wrong. I find your ideas, statement as important as any other EVE ONLINE player. If game designers are interest on ideas of minority of Eve who support voting or read forum in time of elections, thats a way of organising community. In my opinion I belive your will be representants of minority.
Wish you best in your choices.

Serious Internet Politician
www.seriousinternetpolitician.com
Posted - 2011.03.12 13:11:00 - [2]
 

I'm running because there should be atleast one good looking avatar on the CSM.


Mike Azariah
Posted - 2011.03.12 18:49:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Kell Tarhun


This game got way more players than couple of CSM candidates voted by players.

....

- I belive every players should be represented by himself.




It would be nice if this were possible but to listen to every damn player would logistically be the full time job for a group, not one community manager. Question is, what group would be willing to listen to the idea of the huge population, to distill those ideas and find the gems amongst the gravel? If there was such a group, how would you choose them? Let CCP put their own people with preconceived ideas?

No, wait.

What if the players chose amongst themselves to form this group?

THAT is what this election is.

m

Kell Tarhun
Posted - 2011.03.13 10:09:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Mike Azariah


It would be nice if this were possible but to listen to every damn player would logistically be the full time job for a group, not one community manager. Question is, what group would be willing to listen to the idea of the huge population, to distill those ideas and find the gems amongst the gravel? If there was such a group, how would you choose them? Let CCP put their own people with preconceived ideas?

No, wait.

What if the players chose amongst themselves to form this group?

THAT is what this election is.

m


....


I belive those who created game can easily handle whole stuff. They made into real so sophisticated mathematic equations that are not very common in other space games. Propably thats why they decided to get us to idea of CSM. I admire CCP for being open to ideas. Even more i admire freedom of speach to let me disagree with some :) But i belive giving just a group of people theoreticly more rights to influence ccp minds is move that will move to slow extinction of our community.
It is like you on your own limit your own pool of imagination and ideas by letting small gruop of people inside game decide for the rest. That small group will change game in the way they like not in the way WHOLE PLAYER BASE LIKE.

Sure some ideas are wrong, some are good. But why guys who are not capable of doing such a cool game are in charge of decidions that influence us all.

Most of them are just capable to make proper impression i belive they are very creative in self presentation. CSM idea propably gives them some meta fun.

About your last question. Sure we form ourselves into groups. That what corporations, alliances are made for. Thing is look on those structure in current game play.
How many existing corporations/alliances are in charge of game map. I belive about 0.5% of Eve population. Minority who is slightly more organised takes control over the rest. Do you think those minorites are capable of represanting whole Eve universe?
In my opinion that what election is in this game. Thats why i am not supporting it.
According to me CSM construction by defoult support minority structures. Correct me if i am wrong but i bet that 99% of eve players got no possibilites to participate as Electors due to their style of game play. Some are indyviduals, some hate structures, some play in random way for fun.

Giving up freedom of ideas of developing game. Narrowing possibilites to suggest your own idea. Why narrowing? Well one single genious mind need to convince brick wall of CSM electors to even get to CCP. Convincing us that CSM represent our ideas and minds is in my opinion very cruel. Sure it makes things simpler for CCP menagement but it is not the reason why i play Eve. I like diversity.


Mike Azariah
Posted - 2011.03.13 11:32:00 - [5]
 

It is your right not to vote or believe in the electoral process just as it is mine to try to take part in it. I didn't expect I would turn you around in one note.

In one sad way, you are right that the election and the game is run by minorities. So many people don't vote that the minority elect the representatives. That is one truth I wish was not so.

Kell may have lost faith in the process but maybe a few folks reading this have not.

I am asking that you don't.

Read, listen, learn. Maybe run in the next election. Once this election is decided GO to the assembly hall with your proposals. Your voice can be heard because it is not just the 9 seats and that is it. The election is the beginning of the process, not the end.

and

if you think of it

and haven't given up

maybe

Vote for Mike Azariah

m

Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.03.13 12:19:00 - [6]
 

How much actual impact does the CSM have?

Have a read, m8. It may not change your mind, but it might help you understand why some of us are running. Smile


 

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