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Perseo Aidheron
Posted - 2011.03.02 20:35:00 - [1]
 

Is is possible to do it, i mean for example i started doing these missions for a level 2 agent and he is giving me missions that go against the caldari state and this is making me lose standing towards caldari state and once i hit -5 all caldari will attack me if i enter their space.

what do i have to do to maintain balance and make everyone hug me

Zesoft
Posted - 2011.03.02 20:45:00 - [2]
 

You can decline those

Lutz Major
Posted - 2011.03.02 20:49:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Zesoft
You can decline those
... but remember, that you can only decline once every four hours. Otherwise you will loose standing!

mkmin
Posted - 2011.03.02 20:51:00 - [4]
 

Usually, declining faction missions and training diplomacy to deal with the derived standings is enough. You can start declining storyline missions too when your faction standings get as high as you'd like, or unless the payout is particularly good. You can start running missions for other factions to get either direct or derived standings. Usually just not being KOS is as much as I care about.

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2011.03.02 21:53:00 - [5]
 

Working for a navy or police force will get you more missions against player factions than working for other corps.

I decline all missions against player corps, and storyline missions too if the reward isn't worth the standing loss to me. It helps to have multiple agents or corps you can run missions for, in case you get two missions in a row that you need to decline.

Always look at the mission briefing for a faction icon. If there isn't one, then the mission is against NPC mercenaries, NPC pirates, or unaffiliated NPC factions, and there is no standing loss for doing these. These NPC don't drop player faction dogtags either (mercenaries sometimes drop a few nearly worthless ones though).

Alternatively, you can run missions for all player factions and raise them all. This is fairly hard to do, but possible. Typically people raise one or two factions, and keep the others above -5.0

I run missions for Caldari and Amarr, but this hurts Gallente and Minmatar standing, so I also do some Sisters of EVE missions to keep everyone happy.


Merouk Baas
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.02 21:55:00 - [6]
 

The empires hate each other at 5.0 (out of 10), meaning you get 1 point increase with Gallente and lose 0.5 points with Caldari. So in theory, you can do missions for all of them and end up with something like +3.30 with with all of them. BUT, you need to decline missions that send you to shoot Caldari ships because each kill is EXTRA faction loss. So, decline those missions and only do missions against pirates, mercenaries, or rogue drones.

OR, option two:

If you decline all Storyline missions, and just do regular missions, you can get +10 with several NPC corps (for example, Fed Navy, Caldari Navy, Imperial Navy, Republic Navy) without affecting your Gallente, Caldari, Amarr, or Minmatar faction much.

It's basically a choice:

- Do you want to raise your standings to 6.6 so you can lower your taxes, or 8.0 so you can get jump clones? Then you'll be hated somewhere.

- Do you want to be friendly with everyone? Then the max you can get is about +3.5 or so, and you'll still pay taxes etc.

- If you just want to do combat missions, raising your standings with ONE Navy is sufficient, because once you get access to L4 missions, they're all pretty much random and thus the same.

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
Posted - 2011.03.02 22:05:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 02/03/2011 22:08:56

^ What they said ..

As said before, you can have positive standings towards every faction but it takes a long time. If you do storyline missions for all the factions you'll end up with positive standings towards everyone because the standings gain is higher than the derived standings loss.

So you get +2% with Caldari and lose 1% with Gallente if you do a Caldari storyline;
Then you get +2% with Gallente and lose 1% with Caldari if you do a Gallente storyline;

The net result is that you are positive towards everyone. But as they "drag each other down" so to speak it takes a very long time to get them all up high.

- And decline "shoot other faction ships" missions! They only decrease the opposing faction's standings (a lot!) but don't increase your standings toward your agent's faction at all!


mkmin
Posted - 2011.03.02 22:06:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Working for a navy or police force will get you more missions against player factions than working for other corps.



This is simply not true. A player proposed the idea at the last fanfest, the devs nodded excitedly and wrote it all down, nothing happened.

The different corps within a faction have a different balance of stations and agents, but don't really affect the balance of what specific mission you get. Any impression otherwise is random chance.

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2011.03.02 23:05:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: mkmin
Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Working for a navy or police force will get you more missions against player factions than working for other corps.



This is simply not true. A player proposed the idea at the last fanfest, the devs nodded excitedly and wrote it all down, nothing happened.

The different corps within a faction have a different balance of stations and agents, but don't really affect the balance of what specific mission you get. Any impression otherwise is random chance.

When I work for Caldari Navy or Home Guard (both Caldari corps), I get TONS and TONS and TONS of missions vs. Gallente and even Minmatar and Thukker. In fact, I ruined my Minmatar and Thukker faction running Home Guard missions, long before I even knew anything about standing.

I now run missions for corps that are not navies or police forces. Since doing so, I've never had some Gallente/Minmatar missions I've only read about on the forums. In fact, I rarely ever have a Gallente/Minmatar mission. This is with the same division of agents too.

Feel free to draw your own conclusions.

mkmin
Posted - 2011.03.03 00:03:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Originally by: mkmin
Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Working for a navy or police force will get you more missions against player factions than working for other corps.



This is simply not true. A player proposed the idea at the last fanfest, the devs nodded excitedly and wrote it all down, nothing happened.

The different corps within a faction have a different balance of stations and agents, but don't really affect the balance of what specific mission you get. Any impression otherwise is random chance.

When I work for Caldari Navy or Home Guard (both Caldari corps), I get TONS and TONS and TONS of missions vs. Gallente and even Minmatar and Thukker. In fact, I ruined my Minmatar and Thukker faction running Home Guard missions, long before I even knew anything about standing.

I now run missions for corps that are not navies or police forces. Since doing so, I've never had some Gallente/Minmatar missions I've only read about on the forums. In fact, I rarely ever have a Gallente/Minmatar mission. This is with the same division of agents too.

Feel free to draw your own conclusions.



I have run missions for both Gallente Navy and Republic fleet. I often go days of hard missioning, drawing missions with 2 accounts at a time, without seeing a single faction mission from an agent. I'll have rare other days, where first thing that happens is I'll hit a missoining deadend and choose to do something else that day (I think last time that happened would have been about 9 months ago.) I assure you, as it currently is the corp itself doesn't really matter for which missions get picked.


 

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