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Taiyou Hime
Posted - 2011.03.01 18:14:00 - [1]
 

I'm an on again/off again player and I've returned again for a few months. I've been gone a while and I've come back a little lost. I could use some advice.

I am a Gallente pilot who is currently in a Vexor. I also have a Salvage Catalyst. I have enough skill to fly a Myrmidon but just cant afford one yet. I've got most of my Certs up to Standard and I am working on my last one (Standard Fitting) for Core.

I've been running the Epic missions but I am getting tired to all the travel... My game time seems to be limited so I'd like to find somewhere I wont have to do a lot of travel... Basically I'm a missioner who would like to find another means to supliment his income with something else. Planetary Interaction looks interesting but I'm pretty lost due to all the options available.

Can anyone offer some advice to help focus my goals? My search-fu is useless so links and such would be helpful too. I'm not asking for handouts or handholding just a nudge in the right directions.

Thanks




LHA Tarawa
Posted - 2011.03.01 18:27:00 - [2]
 

My 2-week old toon is running L4 missions in a battle cruiser for 10 million ISK an hour.


Planetary Interaction = farmville. I did it for a few weeks then just quit... snore.

Mining is really lame unless you are running 3-4 accounts concurrently.

Exploration can pay big, but is very hit and miss.

Most important key to enjoying EVE is getting into a player run corp that you really like. That also seems to be the hardest thing to do in EVE.

Cygnus Zhada
Viziam
Posted - 2011.03.01 20:10:00 - [3]
 

There's a ton of options and paths, some very grindy, some very opportunistic. I'll list a few of the more obvious ones.

- stop doing the Epic arc and fidn yourself an NPC corp to do missions for. You ofcourse start at the bottom which would be a lvl 1 giving crappy rewards, then after while lvl 2 which is still useless isk, from lvl 3 the pay gets decent. Still, it's grinding NPC's. If you enjoy that you'll find lvl 4 missions (your goal which you can achieve in a few weeks tops, mostly held back by your ship skills) dependable and easy income.

- trading, can be done in several ways. Some people haul a whole lot but this takes hauler skills and a good idea/spreadsheet of prices around the universe. What you can also do is sit in a single station that's visited a lot, like a tradehub, and simply find items that are bought for a whole lot less than they are sold. With some wit and experience you can really make good cash with it. You ofcourse start small but if you keep reinvesting your profits you'll find it goes up FAST.

- join a corp, find stuff to do being part of the team and take your cut from the rewards. This could be joining someone doing lvl 4's, or helping with hauling for miners. Whatever.

- ninja salvaging, this is one of the more "opportunistic" approaches. It forces you to learn how to probe, then you find a mission hub and probe out a lvl 4 mission runner, you enter his mission and salvage his wrecks. It's a good way to "interact" with other players than just npc and it makes good cash as well. It's not difficult (once you got the probing down) to make 15 mil/hour.


There's way more ofcourse, but this might give you an idea on what to look for.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.03.02 09:44:00 - [4]
 

First of all, I don't see a 2-week old toon being able to run L4 missions in a battle cruiser for 10 million ISK an hour.

Secondly, don't quit the Epic Arc. It may include a lot of jumps but the Faction standing gain for completing it is very helpful.

I don't agree with the above 2 posted replies. They seem to be biased and judgemental with negative opinions.

There's a lot of different Occupations and Guides available.


Cygnus Zhada
Viziam
Posted - 2011.03.02 10:46:00 - [5]
 

How is my post biased and negative? Also do explain how faction standing is actually any use.

DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.03.02 12:44:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 02/03/2011 12:44:26
Originally by: Cygnus Zhada
How is my post biased and negative? Also do explain how faction standing is actually any use.



I'm sorry if I offended you.
I said 'They SEEM to be bias and judgemental with negative opinions'.

Your reply was good and had a lot of information compared to the one above it. I salute you for posting helpful replies. However, I've 'Bold-ed' a couple of things you stated which I don't agree with.

Originally by: Cygnus Zhada
- stop doing the Epic arc and fidn yourself an NPC corp to do missions for. You ofcourse start at the bottom which would be a lvl 1 giving crappy rewards, then after while lvl 2 which is still useless isk, from lvl 3 the pay gets decent. Still, it's grinding NPC's. If you enjoy that you'll find lvl 4 missions (your goal which you can achieve in a few weeks tops, mostly held back by your ship skills) dependable and easy income.


The Epic Arcs, Faction standing and Agent availability.
Plain and simple, with high Faction standing all agents in all corporations within that specific Faction are available.

After completing missions for the Career Agents which all give Faction standing increase, the level 1 Epic Arc gives another +8.75% Faction standing when completed. That should enable new players access to high level high quality level 2 agents up to low level low quality level 3 agents without having to grind up from level 1 agents. Now if they train up a few Social skills, they will have no problems at all easily accessing mid level mid quality agents.

Agent
Standings_mechanics
Mission_guide
Event_Agents

Originally by: Cygnus Zhada
- ninja salvaging, this is one of the more "opportunistic" approaches. It forces you to learn how to probe, then you find a mission hub and probe out a lvl 4 mission runner, you enter his mission and salvage his wrecks. It's a good way to "interact" with other players than just npc and it makes good cash as well. It's not difficult (once you got the probing down) to make 15 mil/hour.


Ninja Salvaging is a legal from of Piracy and those too career options along with PvP, Can Flipping, etc, should have been listed all together. Ninja Salvaging is considered by many players as a 'Bad' profession and those that do it are usually 'Redlisted' and treated negatively by mission runners. I may have misinterpreted the meaning of 'Good' in your statement. If looking for PvP action, yeah, it's a 'Good' way to 'Interact' with other players.

For a new player, Exploration is a much better way to learn how to probe. Easier to pin down exploration sites and learn the scanning interface than by trying to scan down a moving target.

As for the amount of ISK made per hr, guess it depends on what you do and where you look. I make on average about 50 mill ISK per hr just from doing high security exploration. Sometimes more, sometimes less.

Anyway, in the future I'll try to be more careful with how I phrase and write statements in my posted replies. Embarassed

DMC

Cygnus Zhada
Viziam
Posted - 2011.03.02 12:57:00 - [7]
 

The epic arc gets increasingly more difficult in an erratic way where new players go "uhm, last mission went fine but this one I lost 3 ships on", moreso than normal missions. There's nothing Epic about the arc other than the name. To me you're much better off using that time to start working towards a good NPC corp, getting used to "normal" missions and getting into lvl 3's asap.

The fact that someone classifies ninja salvaging as "bad" is here nor there, This is a pvp sandbox game and as such players have options like these. The thing is that for a true newbie ninja salvaging is fantastic income requiring almost nothing. In fact it forces people to think, do some tutorials and use their brains rather than "hard work".

Granted, the "good way to interact" was a bit sarcastic but it's true in it's own right. Interacting (in whatever form) with other players rather than shooting NPC's is something a lot of people prefer :)





 

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