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OhThis GuyAgain
Posted - 2011.03.02 21:17:00 - [241]
 

Originally by: Dawn Scott
I like the sound of that disco hulk, my support goes to you and Kalrand.

I feel like if they're both elected, they'll be staring intently at each other every time they meet.

If there were Disco Hulks around, I think such situations would be somewhat diffused.

Dawn Scott
Posted - 2011.03.02 21:27:00 - [242]
 

Originally by: OhThis GuyAgain
Originally by: Dawn Scott
I like the sound of that disco hulk, my support goes to you and Kalrand.

I feel like if they're both elected, they'll be staring intently at each other every time they meet.

If there were Disco Hulks around, I think such situations would be somewhat diffused.


So that's the solution then, bring in the Disco Hulks.

Thimian
Posted - 2011.03.02 21:44:00 - [243]
 

goons are scammers. i wouldnt have a scammer in the CSM :) and even if he says everyone else lies doesnt mean he will be able to do anything better. this seems like only a measure to get voted up for, even if i think i agree with him.Twisted Evil

Two Shots
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.02 21:49:00 - [244]
 

Originally by: Thimian
this seems like only a measure to get voted up for, even if i think i agree with him.Twisted Evil

What other possible reason would one announce one's candidacy for an election, if not to draw attention to it and garner votes?

Nitemare111
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.02 21:53:00 - [245]
 

Edited by: Nitemare111 on 02/03/2011 21:54:07
Originally by: Thimian
goons are scammers. i wouldnt have a scammer in the CSM :) and even if he says everyone else lies doesnt mean he will be able to do anything better. this seems like only a measure to get voted up for, even if i think i agree with him.Twisted Evil


You are playing Eve Online, right? Scamming is part of the game. So's lying, stealing, undercutting your market opponents, kamikaze attacks, assassination, spying, contract dodging, and sheep futtering.

Mittens is Glorious Leader. Glorious Leader is always right. Glorious Leader will lead us to an Eve with no glitches or lag. Glorious Leader will make hisec and nullsec come together and dance the dance of love with lowsec in a glorious meeting of the minds. Glorious Leader will make all right again.

****, forgot what I was going to originally post...


E man Industries
Posted - 2011.03.02 21:56:00 - [246]
 

Edited by: E man Industries on 02/03/2011 22:03:07
Mittans I have one question.

How do you propose to overcome the risk of CCP simply not telling you or informing you of certain projects because they are aprhensive of a negative reaction of such an antagnistic CSM.

I also enjoyed the 10 ton hammer write ups. May not agree but you do know the game and you would be an active CSM rep.

Rhes
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.02 23:09:00 - [247]
 

Originally by: Thimian
goons are scammers.

This is an outrage. Goonswarm is a proper Christian spaceguild and we would never break any of the Ten Commandments.

digi
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.02 23:58:00 - [248]
 

Edited by: digi on 03/03/2011 00:23:18
Originally by: OhThis GuyAgain
Originally by: General Windypops
Because so far your entire campaign seems to based on raging against some massive elusive problem that you're not able to identify let alone solve. ...


It is really, really clearly obvious that his problem is that (according to him) the CSM is ineffective and broken because it doesn't have enough power and/or sway over what CCP does with Eve.

I mean, say what you will concerning whether or not he's correct, or comment on whether you believe electing him will solve anything, but you absolutely cannot claim that he's being vague or that he hasn't identified the problem he's rallying against.



Everything you think you know is a whitewash and none of us outside of the CSM and CCP will ever know the exact truth. Has the CSM ever lived up to its stated purpose? We catch mere glimpses of the true answer but signs indicate to the negative.

I believe this man can add value to the CSM. I have never known him to lie in the time I have known him IRL. I believe his past experiences will be a benefit to all causes as the man is trained to lay out such causes in a logical manner and then present them to a person in power. You will not find anymore more qualified to give you the straight story and you will not find many people that care more about this game.

If you want to know where the dirt lies, you need to look under the grass.

Enriana Shlirapen
Posted - 2011.03.03 01:11:00 - [249]
 

Originally by: Nitemare111
Edited by: Nitemare111 on 02/03/2011 21:54:07
Originally by: Thimian
goons are scammers. i wouldnt have a scammer in the CSM :) and even if he says everyone else lies doesnt mean he will be able to do anything better. this seems like only a measure to get voted up for, even if i think i agree with him.Twisted Evil


You are playing Eve Online, right? Scamming is part of the game. So's lying, stealing, undercutting your market opponents, kamikaze attacks, assassination, spying, contract dodging, and sheep futtering.

Mittens is Glorious Leader. Glorious Leader is always right. Glorious Leader will lead us to an Eve with no glitches or lag. Glorious Leader will make hisec and nullsec come together and dance the dance of love with lowsec in a glorious meeting of the minds. Glorious Leader will make all right again.

****, forgot what I was going to originally post...




That Mittens is a moron, but you're too much of a ***** to post that.

Golar Crexis
Posted - 2011.03.03 01:52:00 - [250]
 

I'm voting for Mittani as this is internet spaceships and whats the worst that can happen?

But one quick question for Mittani.
I have read a few of your TentonHammer articles and you assert dominion sov is broken.
Speaking as someone who has not really experienced sov battles or maintaining sov (except for a few weeks in (what was) Initiative space).
In what way is sov broken?

Kar Yu
Gallente
CryoTech Industries
Posted - 2011.03.03 03:11:00 - [251]
 

It is interesting your point of view about the CSM elections.
I agree that have been a lot of misconception about what the CSM really is.
Like you said, it is not about getting me a hulk with more power or whatever.

But everyone goes in the same direction: 0.0 space.

I know for a fact that Goonswarm is the big one in EVE. I know you operate in 0.0.
Also, most of the candidates always focus on 0.0.
For me that is frustrating. What if I donīt want to play my gamestyle in low sec or 0.0?
Should I be happy about whats going on in high sec? No.
More and more CCP gets more content, more 0.0 stuff. What about the rest?
Stop the content for a while, balance the game, fix the bugs!
This is what I think everyone, not only the candidates should do.

Im so tired of listen people talking about 0.0. PvP is not only in 0.0 you know?
Bad boys kill us in 0.0 with big guns and big ships and we the no-0.0 guys kill you in high sec in the market, in manufacturing and so on.
But for the regular player that dont even have a feel for pvp (im one) I prefer to play at my pace doing what I like.
The problem is the game have also itīs problems in high sec. Be that the economy that is not balanced, the bugs, and many other problems.

Sure, EVE is a better place that it was like 3 years ago when I started.

Donīt take me wrong please, but Iīm tired of listen to people talking only about 0.0 and whatīs going on in low sec or WH space. (In fact I do like WH).

There are many things for a high sec player that should be improved but it seams no one talks about it. When some new stuff gets developed by CCP, about 70% of a update is stuff about 0.0.

Missions sux for example, they are unbalanced and most of the times the rewards sux. Sure, I know in 0.0 things get more rewarding, I dont want to mine jaspet in 0.9 ! I understand very well the risk=reward ratio and I agree with it.

For a noob the game is almost impossible to learn unless you get some help. The interface is very confusing, and you get lost searching for info.
I got a couple of friends that are really "nerds" about gaming and every single of them had problems learning the game.
Sure I admit, the EvE is complex, but do really the way a player interacts with the game need to be so complex too?

Itīs almost impossible for a relative new player to venture into low sec with out having a huge corp to back it up.
Like it is almost impossible a med sized corp to conquer anything in 0.0 because years of playing made the big ones king there. Goonswarm included ;) (not that is all bad).

I think if you really talk from the heart, and it seams to me you are, you understand many aspects of my point of view.

Donīt intend this as a critic to you, your corp or alliance, this is a general critical about my view of the game and of course, to short since this is not the place.

If you can assure that you kick CCP ass providing good and honest feedback to them about us (the player base) you have my vote.
Just remember you, and everyone, there is more then 0.0 space and more then a sound bug.

Best regards and fly safe,

Kar

The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.03 03:35:00 - [252]
 

Originally by: E man Industries

How do you propose to overcome the risk of CCP simply not telling you or informing you of certain projects because they are aprhensive of a negative reaction of such an antagnistic CSM.

I also enjoyed the 10 ton hammer write ups. May not agree but you do know the game and you would be an active CSM rep.


i have a pretty good relationship with the CCP staff i've met over the years, though usually it's in the context of "let's go get completely ****ed up" rather than "you are a dev and i am going to hump your leg about spaceships."

i think you may be mistaking my pledge to be a manipulative bastard to be a promise to bang my shoe on a podium and throw a tantrum, which wouldn't be particularly cunning, manipulative, or bastard-y. this is something that cropped up earlier in the thread, as well; you can zealously represent the playerbase without antagonizing your CCP interlocutors needlessly.

Orkasm
The Remnant Legion.
The Remnant Legion
Posted - 2011.03.03 03:38:00 - [253]
 

Mittens gets an Ork vote

Fix it big man!

The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.03 03:45:00 - [254]
 

Originally by: Golar Crexis
I'm voting for Mittani as this is internet spaceships and whats the worst that can happen?

But one quick question for Mittani.
I have read a few of your TentonHammer articles and you assert dominion sov is broken.
Speaking as someone who has not really experienced sov battles or maintaining sov (except for a few weeks in (what was) Initiative space).
In what way is sov broken?


christ, don't even get me started. the dominion system was intended to have two halves to its features; the idea was that you would cut out the old pos-war mechanic with the ihub/tcu/sbu system on the one hand, and increase the population density of 0.0 with upgrades and an automated treaty system on the other. the treaty system was there to help larger alliances shelter and develop smaller alliances, either through rent or tribute or whatever. it had a locational standings system (blue in this constellation and this pipe, neutral elsewhere) as well as an automated payment collection setup. when dominion was released, the entire treaty feature was thrown into the gulag of the backlog, never to be seen again.

this meant that you had the 'solidify power' segments of dominion invoked - upgrades, sbu system, ihubs etc - without the mechanic to get new alliances started in nullsec. power has solidified and with the exception of BORT there's no real new blood in nullsec, it's just us same old grizzled great warriors hanging out on jabber pursuing ancient grudges. actually there's not even grudges to fuel us, it's a lot of HoN and LoL and WoT. :/

also, while i'm not a game designer and the CSM is explicitly not for game designer wannabes, people don't really enjoy the sov system much. alliances lose their sov when they cascade through other means, usually griefing, not because of heads-up conquest. that's because the structure shots are just so utterly boring ugh

in the pre-dominion system, goonswarm at its peak held 10 regions. even though pos-war was a pain, it was fairly entertaining and you could enjoy conquest for its own sake. in dominion there's not much impetus for serious conquest just because it's so boring. goonswarm holds one region, half of which is given to our allies at any given moment, plus some jump bridges down to fountain. we have a 'tight' sov footprint, and while that's probably better for the game than us owning half the galaxy like we used to, it's highly unlikely that we'll lose deklein, ever.

also, supercapitals should die a lot more. death to supercapitals. they enhance the 'dominion sucks' experience and they have a tremendous lag-wake due to fighterbombers and god knows what else. ugh.

:words:

The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.03 03:51:00 - [255]
 

Originally by: Kar Yu

I think if you really talk from the heart, and it seams to me you are, you understand many aspects of my point of view.

Donīt intend this as a critic to you, your corp or alliance, this is a general critical about my view of the game and of course, to short since this is not the place.

If you can assure that you kick CCP ass providing good and honest feedback to them about us (the player base) you have my vote.
Just remember you, and everyone, there is more then 0.0 space and more then a sound bug.



I snipped some of your post so I can have some room to reply. While I am the leader of a nullsec bloc, I am not a 'nullsec only' candidate. There are a scandalous number of features lost in CCP's backlog, and only a tiny proportion have anything to do with nullsec. There's an even greater number of proposals the CSM has approved that are in an separate backlog.

CCP comes up with ideas, implements half of them and drops the other half by patch time.

CSM upvotes player issues, a tiny proportion get implemented, the rest languish.

These are the two vectors by which the backlog grows.

So yes - I'm from a nullsec bloc. I lead one. I know a lot about nullsec, even though I am secretly a big PvE guy (I wish EVE had PvE half as fun as WoW, so I could actually have fun in this game when not at war/murdering people in pvp/dying in pvp). Why should you care about my candidacy?

Because I'm not promising to add features to the backlog. I'm not saying 'hey, I can do xyz for you, empire guy'! Instead, I'm going to try to make the CSM into a more effective advocate, to get the things lost in the shadows from CSM1->CSM5 addressed - and a ton of those features and player proposals impact your game, if you're in empire, or in lowsec. They've already been approved by popular acclamation; they're just rotting, wasting away.

Ugh.

anyway, that's the poop.

Rhedea
Rhedea Corp
Posted - 2011.03.03 06:46:00 - [256]
 

I don't like goons.
I don't trust goons.
That said you have done a fine job returning goons to nullsec.
Your organizing abilities are proven.

It will make me sick to my stomach if I vote for you.

Question

Do you believe that forming an coalition between alliances be like a wardec and be paid for. I've read posts on this subject and was wondering if you had any thoughts on this.

I like to see more work done on the UI HUD. PI and the bounty system. Keep up with the bug fixes and lag issues.

Good luck in the voting.

Rhed (GBC)

Sikhtar
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.03 07:02:00 - [257]
 

I support this product and/or service

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.03 08:05:00 - [258]
 

Originally by: Rhedea
Do you believe that forming an coalition between alliances be like a wardec and be paid for. I've read posts on this subject and was wondering if you had any thoughts on this.


How would that be enforced, exactly? If two alliances informally agree to not shoot each other, are CCP supposed to sneak a GM into Teamspeak to monitor which targets are being called?

Khory Thunderstar
The Single Scam
Posted - 2011.03.03 11:19:00 - [259]
 

Originally by: The Mittani

What I Can Offer You:

The raw, ugly truth.



Oh well.

If im falling for a trap, might as well fall for the most obvious one.

Awesome Possum
Original Sin.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
Posted - 2011.03.03 12:42:00 - [260]
 

I'm willing to vote for Mitts, but there's a 300 mill isk pre-vote security deposit, he'll get it back right after the election.

Please send 300mill per vote (up to 5) to this character, thanks.

Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.03.03 15:16:00 - [261]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
There are a scandalous number of features lost in CCP's backlog, and only a tiny proportion have anything to do with nullsec. There's an even greater number of proposals the CSM has approved that are in an separate backlog.


They're all in the same backlog, which is just a Hansoft database. In that database, CSM items are tagged so that they can be identified as CSM items and so that it is easier to do a query for all CSM items in the backlog to produce a working list of what has not yet been selected for implementation.

Related to that, a useful effort by CSM 6 would be to identify backlogged CSM items that have become obsolete due to EVE's evolution. There are likely to be at least a few such items in there. CCP doesn't seem to do any focused weeding out of items. However, it is possible that teams who are reviewing the backlog to identify stories to propose during sprint planning could notice obsolete CSM items (now that they are finally identifiable as CSM items!) and bring them to the CSM's attention. But at the end of the day, this is a task that the CSM should probably do as a "special project", maybe every other term. Would require working from a list provided by CSM advocates, since CSM does not have even read access to the backlog (although that has been requested via our advocates and directly to CCP Oveur in the October meeting).

EnderCapitalG
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.03 15:20:00 - [262]
 

Originally by: Mynxee
Originally by: The Mittani
There are a scandalous number of features lost in CCP's backlog, and only a tiny proportion have anything to do with nullsec. There's an even greater number of proposals the CSM has approved that are in an separate backlog.


They're all in the same backlog, which is just a Hansoft database. In that database, CSM items are tagged so that they can be identified as CSM items and so that it is easier to do a query for all CSM items in the backlog to produce a working list of what has not yet been selected for implementation.

Related to that, a useful effort by CSM 6 would be to identify backlogged CSM items that have become obsolete due to EVE's evolution. There are likely to be at least a few such items in there. CCP doesn't seem to do any focused weeding out of items. However, it is possible that teams who are reviewing the backlog to identify stories to propose during sprint planning could notice obsolete CSM items (now that they are finally identifiable as CSM items!) and bring them to the CSM's attention. But at the end of the day, this is a task that the CSM should probably do as a "special project", maybe every other term. Would require working from a list provided by CSM advocates, since CSM does not have even read access to the backlog (although that has been requested via our advocates and directly to CCP Oveur in the October meeting).



Why would it matter if the items are obscure or not? CCP obviously isn't working on it as it is.

Gotta walk in stations guys
WALK
IN
STATIONS

Two Shots
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.03 15:29:00 - [263]
 

Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: Rhedea
Do you believe that forming an coalition between alliances be like a wardec and be paid for. I've read posts on this subject and was wondering if you had any thoughts on this.


How would that be enforced, exactly? If two alliances informally agree to not shoot each other, are CCP supposed to sneak a GM into Teamspeak to monitor which targets are being called?

I would imagine he wants people to have to pay upkeep for blue standings, in which case red would become the new blue. If it cost to have standings at all, then all of the northern coalition alliances would simply disband and their corporations join Morsus Mihi (and if population numbers mandated, Morsus Mihi 2, Morsus Mihi 3, etc). The problem with trying to get players to suffer a negative thing is that players affected by the new negative thing will do their best to avoid it.

Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.03.03 16:19:00 - [264]
 

Edited by: Mynxee on 03/03/2011 16:23:02
Originally by: EnderCapitalG
Why would it matter if the items are obscure or not? CCP obviously isn't working on it as it is.

Gotta walk in stations guys
WALK
IN
STATIONS


As I understand it, the backlog is a "living list" of stories (in the Agile meaning of "story") that is constantly referenced, added to, updated, and re-prioritized during each development cycle. So, it's not exactly accurate to say that CCP isn't working on the backlog. Items from the backlog inform each development cycle. Problem is, the stories that players may desire to get some attention don't always manage to bubble to the top and get assigned to a sprint team.

Still, CSM5 had some real successes in getting CCP to implement a number of backlogged CSM items. We wrote a devblog about that and there have been other backlogged CSM items implemented since then as well.

Alexa Dent0n
Posted - 2011.03.03 17:14:00 - [265]
 

Sure why not, got a vote incoming from me.Cool

Alina Wize
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.03.03 21:12:00 - [266]
 

If you're not voting for The Mittani than you're voting for the TERRORISTS!

Harold Hammerstein
Caldari
KINGS OF EDEN
Sev3rance
Posted - 2011.03.03 22:37:00 - [267]
 

The Mittani has my vote.

none of these internet space-ship pixels are real, it's a game. games are about fun. this dude makes me laugh. YARRRR!! players is what makes this game fun. Clicking on a target and pressing "F1" and waiting till it asplodes - is like microwaving baked potatoes - boring... This guy adds tin-foil.

Question for you Mittani - who would you like to see on the CSM with you?




General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2011.03.03 23:05:00 - [268]
 

Originally by: Harold Hammerstein
The Mittani has my vote.

none of these internet space-ship pixels are real, it's a game. games are about fun. this dude makes me laugh. YARRRR!! players is what makes this game fun. Clicking on a target and pressing "F1" and waiting till it asplodes - is like microwaving baked potatoes - boring... This guy adds tin-foil.

Question for you Mittani - who would you like to see on the CSM with you?






I'm glad he "makes you laugh". You should already know the people he wants to be on the CSM with him as he's orchestrated the whole block voting process with them already ya big dufus!

Enjoy your 'freedom'. Such a rebel!



Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.03.03 23:07:00 - [269]
 

Originally by: Harold Hammerstein

Question for you Mittani - who would you like to see on the CSM with you?



I believe he might just have a list.

Lady Spanky
Perkone
Posted - 2011.03.03 23:10:00 - [270]
 

Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Harold Hammerstein

Question for you Mittani - who would you like to see on the CSM with you?



I believe he might just have a list.


I love all the political ignoramuses who think that a vote for Mittens is a vote against the 'system'. Really fills your heart with hope for the future of the world when people are that easily duped.



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