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Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.25 11:13:00 - [1]
 

I believe that the in game economy is the lens through which CCP should view any proposed change or action.

Additionally, I believe that the following eleven points need to be implemented:

- Small bands of players should be able to afford, conquer, and hold parts of 0.0 space.

- Industrial Command Ships should be expanded to include a T2 Orca.

- A POS module to allow T3 subsystem changes in space should be implemented.

- A redesign of Level 5 missions to focus on group play.

- T2 Battleships should be reconfigured to have a better defined role in the game.

- Salvage Drones should finally be implemented.

- Moon minerals, specifically Technetium, need to be rebalanced.

- Further action should be taken to combat botting.

- Faction warfare should be more lucrative for it's participants, and the ramifications should have an economic effect on the systems captured.

- The in-game market tools should be overhauled much like the contracts system.

- Mining and manufacturing should be significantly more rewarding in low sec space, due to it's danger. Also small corporations should be able to claim the resources of Low Sec systems, preparing them to move to 0.0.

Ordo GArr
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.02.25 20:38:00 - [2]
 

If you live in empire you should seriously vote for kalrand because this guy knows what you're into

iP0D
Posted - 2011.02.26 00:29:00 - [3]
 

another random goon candidate to bleed votes away from non nullsec alliance candidates? Cool

Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.26 01:51:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: iP0D
another random goon candidate to bleed votes away from non nullsec alliance candidates? Cool



I'm running independently of any organized null sec efforts.

Primarily, I'm running as "The Voice of the MD Forum", not as part of Goonswarm.

Profiteering
Posted - 2011.02.26 04:51:00 - [5]
 

Lol, this reminds me of the fourteen point peace plan after world war I. Although I like some of your ideas, some of them I have thought of to :3

Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.26 04:53:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Profiteering
Lol, this reminds me of the fourteen point peace plan after world war I.


The best part is: I have no Article X to trip the whole thing up.

Profiteering
Posted - 2011.02.26 05:25:00 - [7]
 

Wasnt it article 10? I hope this doesnt ruin your amount of votes because I said that xd

Eve Orwell
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.26 07:15:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Profiteering
Wasnt it article 10? I hope this doesnt ruin your amount of votes because I said that xd


X = 10, i thought this was taught in primary school, good ol' roman numerals

Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.26 08:54:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Kalrand on 26/02/2011 18:14:37
Originally by: Eve Orwell
Originally by: Profiteering
Wasnt it article 10? I hope this doesnt ruin your amount of votes because I said that xd


X = 10, i thought this was taught in primary school, good ol' roman numerals


I give your trolling a 4. Perhaps i'll rank it higher when I'm sober.

Edit: spelling, sobriety. (I give it a 2)

RAW23
Posted - 2011.02.26 18:15:00 - [10]
 

As a regular MD poster I support Kalrand's candidacy wholeheartedly. I wouldn't trust him with my isk but I would fully trust him to pursue a sensible and clear-eyed approach, that would take full account of the role of the economy in this game, to all the issues that might arise during the tenure of the next CSM.

Two Shots
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.26 18:28:00 - [11]
 

I trusted Kalrand with ISK once, and now I'm posting on the EVE Online forums. Crying or Very sad

Profiteering
Posted - 2011.02.26 19:56:00 - [12]
 

Quit lying two shots...Oh, I forgot about roman numerals.

Krythas
Posted - 2011.02.27 13:42:00 - [13]
 

Just checking in to look over peoples grammar and spelling

Wink

Disgruntled Flying Monkey
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2011.02.27 14:07:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Kalmad

- Small bands of players should be able to afford, conquer, and hold parts of 0.0 space.


Yes they should, you havent explain what you would change or do to allow this

Originally by: Kalmad

- Industrial Command Ships should be expanded to include a T2 Orca.


Because?

Originally by: Kalmad

- A POS module to allow T3 subsystem changes in space should be implemented.


Because?

Originally by: Kalmad

- A redesign of Level 5 missions to focus on group play.


We have incursions already :P

Originally by: Kalmad

- T2 Battleships should be reconfigured to have a better defined role in the game.


Marauders are still heavily used in PvE situations from missions to whs and although black ops can do with a buff they still fill a role

Originally by: Kalmad

- Salvage Drones should finally be implemented.


lol no

Originally by: Kalmad

- Moon minerals, specifically Technetium, need to be rebalanced.


Rebalanced? How? Bad choice of words tbh

Originally by: Kalmad

- Further action should be taken to combat botting.


Yeah revamp mining and all forms of NPCing, it has been asked many times, ever wonder why there isnt invention bots, manufacturing bots, pi bots, exploring bots, cyno bots, pvp bots, pos gunner bots.

Originally by: Kalmad

- Faction warfare should be more lucrative for it's participants, and the ramifications should have an economic effect on the systems captured.


FW more profitable, omg lol you know FW is the best and easiest way to make ISK and brings in the more ISK than everything except lvl 5s :P

Originally by: Kalmad

- The in-game market tools should be overhauled much like the contracts system.


Yes it does

Originally by: Kalmad

- Mining and manufacturing should be significantly more rewarding in low sec space, due to it's danger. Also small corporations should be able to claim the resources of Low Sec systems, preparing them to move to 0.0.


Yes it does, how would you go about making this happen?


I like how 0.0 alliance leaders criticised empire yet fail to even understand how things work, just because you have an oversized blob empire on the sov map doesnít mean you know how everything works in this game.

Saying that I see Goonswarm in your name so I expect you to be voted for despite commenting on stuff so badly

Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.27 14:35:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey

<Effectively asking to flush out my points.>




I think you're missing the point of the CSM. I'm not going to be able to tell CCP how, exactly, to implement game changes. What I can do on the CSM is highlight issues, and provide feedback on the things they are doing.

The value of me pointing out that say, Marauders are only used in some PvE settings and BlackOps ships in certain 0.0 logistics settings and that that is quite a niche area compared to the T2 frigates and cruisers, is more likely to start a discussion than coming to the table with how Maurauders need XYZ, and BlackOps need ABC.

You'll notice, to once again use that particular point as an example, in my point I don't use the word "Maurauders" or "BlackOps" anywhere, but refer simply to the class of T2 Battleships. Any solution to that issue is going to be hampered by focusing on what we have right now, and not enough on why we are looking at that particular issue, namely the very large chasm in abilities of a T1 Battleship and a T1 Carrier/Dread. This is an area that a T2 battleship could fit into.

My list of eleven points is a list of eleven generalities that are sourced from a general viewpoint. I'm not here to make specific recommendations to CCP, and promises to you. I'm here to show you the type of feedback I'll be giving CCP.

If there is one thing that comes out of the CSM5, it's that the most effective way to work with CCP is to take their ideas, and tailor them to fit how the game "should" be.

One of the most fitting examples of that was the discussions covering micro-transactions. CCP has a business need for them, the sandbox economy of the game would be devistated by them. We had a CSM, that rather than slamming their fist on the table and saying "MICROTRANSACTIONS BAD!", came back with "well, there are a number of vanity things you can give players the ability to buy, that wouldn't affect gameplay. That would work."

This is what the CSM needs to do.

Disgruntled Flying Monkey
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2011.02.27 14:50:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey

<Effectively asking to flush out my points.>




I think you're missing the point of the CSM. I'm not going to be able to tell CCP how, exactly, to implement game changes. What I can do on the CSM is highlight issues, and provide feedback on the things they are doing.




So basically you want to be a messenger providing feedback, no different to what Obsidian Hawk is doing in assembly hall.

By all means go back on everything you have said and explain why theres an issue, obviously you can ignore the botting issue since it is obvious how that hurts the game but I would like to hear how you feel certain things are so broken that a T2 Orca / salvage drone can fix it Laughing

CSM has no place for people who want to sit in the back take notes and smile, the problem with this years election is everyone is applying for the sake of applying and judging by awful comments by say you and mittani it is obvious you guys have no clue about EVE let alone 0.0.

But its fine im sure when it comes to votes your ticker is all that matters Rolling Eyes

Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.27 15:12:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey
Originally by: Kalrand
What I can do on the CSM is highlight issues, and provide feedback on the things they are doing.



So basically you want to be a messenger providing feedback, no different to what Obsidian Hawk is doing in assembly hall.


I think I've pretty clearly delineated that there are two things the CSM can and should be doing.

1) Highlighting problems with the current state of the game.
2) Providing feedback on the future changes that CCP brings to them, in order to help them tweak those changes.

I have never seen a proposal that started with the CSM saying "We think X is broken and you need to do Y to fix it" ever working out. Highlighting that X is broken gets the problems onto CCP's radar if it wasn't already. CCP's designers have a better handle on what the ancient spaghetti python code is capable of doing. When they propose a change, that's when the CSM comes back into play.



Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey

By all means go back on everything you have said and explain why theres an issue, obviously you can ignore the botting issue since it is obvious how that hurts the game but I would like to hear how you feel certain things are so broken that a T2 Orca / salvage drone can fix it Laughing



I don't bot. I don't like botting. I don't like The Mittani's decision to take a laissez faire approach to botting in the Goon's region of space. I don't like what botting does to the economy of the game. It was point #8.

As to those particular examples, with the introduction of the Noctis, salvaging has become a popular side profession for a number of people. Salvage drones would be something that would "fit" with that. A T2 orca would provide a "step up" from an orca, which by all accounts is wildly popular, for the small corporations that use them as a centerpiece ship. How is that bad?

Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey

CSM has no place for people who want to sit in the back take notes and smile, the problem with this years election is everyone is applying for the sake of applying and judging by awful comments by say you and mittani it is obvious you guys have no clue about EVE let alone 0.0.

But its fine im sure when it comes to votes your ticker is all that matters Rolling Eyes


The Mittani has dictated that he and Vile Rat will be the two goons to receive the votes from Goonswarm.

Please don't let his awful comments affect your perception of me.

trance atlas
Posted - 2011.02.28 01:55:00 - [18]
 

willing to throw my "bad" posting vote in for kalrand

Walmatar
Posted - 2011.02.28 21:29:00 - [19]
 

Kalrand,

What colour should the Zealot be?

This is important.

Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.28 21:34:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Walmatar
Kalrand,

What colour should the Zealot be?

This is important.


Green.


Next question.

Walmatar
Posted - 2011.02.28 21:40:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Walmatar on 28/02/2011 21:40:44
Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Walmatar
Kalrand,

What colour should the Zealot be?

This is important.


Green.


Next question.


This is wrong. Because of your clear lack of EVE online knowledge I'm voting for Twigand Berries.

Kalrand
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.28 21:52:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Walmatar
Edited by: Walmatar on 28/02/2011 21:40:44
Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Walmatar
Kalrand,

What colour should the Zealot be?

This is important.


Green.


Next question.


This is wrong. Because of your clear lack of EVE online knowledge I'm voting for Twigand Berries.


My signature is green, my character's background is green, and most of the things in my refrigerator are (turning) green.

Why would I say anything otherwise?

Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
Posted - 2011.03.01 02:26:00 - [23]
 

Vote for this guy, he is not here on a hidden 0.0 goon agenda.

Zati Pasirga
Posted - 2011.03.01 16:22:00 - [24]
 

Fight for democrazy and free speech by voting for Kalrand!
Show the free speech haters Mittani and Vile Rat a lesson!

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.03.01 16:53:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: RAW23
As a regular MD poster I support Kalrand's candidacy wholeheartedly. I wouldn't trust him with my isk but I would fully trust him to pursue a sensible and clear-eyed approach, that would take full account of the role of the economy in this game, to all the issues that might arise during the tenure of the next CSM.


I second what RAW wrote. Kalrand is the only CSM candidate who's a regular poster in the MD forum and seems to care about the economic part of the game.

I also support Kalrand's candidacy.

Dro Nee
Posted - 2011.03.02 02:53:00 - [26]
 

Would you please take the time to articulate why your intro line and 11 points need some sort of change/implamentation (actually you can leave out the points on bots and UI)? I am not interested in specific proposals of how to fix something, I am asking about the metrics and methedologies you employ in your evaluation that something is a problem.

Cheers

Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2011.03.02 20:10:00 - [27]
 

I support this product and/or service. Laughing

In all seriousness, though, you sir have my vote.

Quigon Jimm
Toxic Shokk
Posted - 2011.03.02 20:27:00 - [28]
 

Confirming my support for Kalrand

TheBear421
Global Economy Experts
Stellar Economy Experts
Posted - 2011.03.03 05:42:00 - [29]
 

Based on your campaign message, you are one of my top five favorite candidates. Congratulations! =p

Recently, Iíve focused heavily on trading and processing PI commodities in and around Jita. This has been very lucrative for me, increasing my net worth from 100m to 1100m in just two months. It is a very complex and financially risky way of making money, and I have a massive Excel spreadsheet dedicated to it, but I am beginning to master the art of Jita trade.

Coming from World of Warcraft, I absolutely love EVEís free market system and intuitive market interface, but there is a key element of my moneymaking that I find absolutely horrible: the Planetary Interaction interface itself.

CCP made a couple important improvements with Incursion, but almost nothing to aid people like myself who overlook harvesting completely and focus on processing what others have harvested and have put on the market. With 123 advanced industry facilities and 24 launchpads on my six planets in Sobaseki, switching schematics and routes to account for shifts in the market can take upwards of 3000 clicks, when it could feasibly be programmed to take a tenth of that (excluding any clicks outside of the PI interface). On top of that, I have to wait ten seconds each time I wish to import or export from each of my launchpads (a feature intended to prevent lag, I assume), which may only make it take about seven minutes longer than it should, but is still a headache. There are other, less important grievances I have with PI (canít view the contents of planetary customs offices without being in the same system, etc.), but I feel like Iíve ranted long enough.

And so my question to you is this: Do you share my feelings about further PI reform being absolutely critical to the economic and industrial aspects of the game, and, if elected, will you lobby CCP on behalf of me and all the other planetary industrialists in New Eden?

Krythas
Posted - 2011.03.03 07:44:00 - [30]
 

Why is this thread not two pages yet ? everyone else seems to be at two pages except you. Please hurry things along.


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