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Jocca Quinn
Matari BackBone
Fate Weavers
Posted - 2011.02.21 19:06:00 - [1]
 

Initially the decryptors (items such as Assembly Instructions, Test Reports etc) were used only for COSMOS bpc construction. They were only found within the respective COSMOS complexes.

When CCP introduced Invention for tech 2 items they simply used these exisiting items. This led to camping of the various static COSMOS complexes where these decryptors spawned.

Eventually CCP removed the decryptors from the COSMOS spawns and put them in various exporation sites instead. At that point they should have simply removed the requirements from the COSMOS bpc's as the cost of the decryptors now makes manufacturing of the COSMOS bpc's stupidly expensive.

Removing the decryptors from the COSMOS bpc's would go someway towards seeing the COSMOS items used more frequently.


Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Posted - 2011.02.21 21:12:00 - [2]
 

COSMOS modules are currently not worth building.

Bunyip
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.02.22 22:44:00 - [3]
 

Sounds like a reasonable and decent proposal. Supported.

Voddick
Posted - 2011.02.25 01:49:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Jocca Quinn
the cost of the decryptors now makes manufacturing of the COSMOS bpc's stupidly expensive.


They should keep the Skill Book requirement to manufacture the items, but yes, please remove the decryptors.

This is an easy way to "add" content to the game by a simple revisit to an unused feature.

Wyke Mossari
Gallente
Posted - 2011.02.25 02:17:00 - [5]
 


Rina Maas
Caldari
Posted - 2011.02.25 12:16:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Jocca Quinn
Initially the decryptors (items such as Assembly Instructions, Test Reports etc) were used only for COSMOS bpc construction. They were only found within the respective COSMOS complexes.

When CCP introduced Invention for tech 2 items they simply used these exisiting items. This led to camping of the various static COSMOS complexes where these decryptors spawned.

Eventually CCP removed the decryptors from the COSMOS spawns and put them in various exporation sites instead. At that point they should have simply removed the requirements from the COSMOS bpc's as the cost of the decryptors now makes manufacturing of the COSMOS bpc's stupidly expensive.

Removing the decryptors from the COSMOS bpc's would go someway towards seeing the COSMOS items used more frequently.




No.

The ENTIRE COSMOS needs to be looked at - not just one facet of it.

Supporting just one fix is wrong when everything COSMOS needs to be looked at and redesigned according to the new gear available.


Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari
draketrain
Posted - 2011.02.25 15:43:00 - [7]
 

I see no point removing decryptors. Some modules are worth more some less, it might change any days when thing x changed in patch y.

Most importantly, if they're not worth manufacturing it's easy to just not manufacture them.

I think it would be more important issue to look what other stuff you can only get from static cosmos instead of like, exploration. Whateva.ugh

Jocca Quinn
Matari BackBone
Fate Weavers
Posted - 2011.02.26 11:19:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Vod****
They should keep the Skill Book requirement to manufacture the items, but yes, please remove the decryptors. This is an easy way to "add" content to the game by a simple revisit to an unused feature.


Yes I beleive that the Skill requirements should stay that will make them a little more specialised to produce, and yes I was hoping that this change could be thought of as "low hanging fruit" ie be easy to achieve.

Originally by: Rina Maas
No. The ENTIRE COSMOS needs to be looked at - not just one facet of it. Supporting just one fix is wrong when everything COSMOS needs to be looked at and redesigned according to the new gear available.


In an ideal world you are right, the whole of COSMOS (the agents, the complexes, the items and modules) need a revisit. However I am fairly sure that CCP have stated (I think its in a CSM meeting log / minutes) that they are not going to do this. What I was hoping for is for a quick fix that will at least improve the useage of these items.

Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn
I see no point removing decryptors. Some modules are worth more some less, it might change any days when thing x changed in patch y. Most importantly, if they're not worth manufacturing it's easy to just not manufacture them.


A number of the COSMOS items (like the ab's and mwd's) would probably see greater useage if they did not cost so much to manufacture their lower fitting requirement come in handy at times. The only reason the are so expensive to produce is down to the decryptors.

Llyandrian
Amarr
Livestock Science Exchange
Posted - 2011.02.27 22:55:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Llyandrian on 05/03/2011 20:46:19

Niyrah
Posted - 2011.03.02 03:17:00 - [10]
 

Fully Support

Swynet
State War Academy

Posted - 2011.03.02 06:36:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Swynet on 02/03/2011 06:37:22
Originally by: Jocca Quinn
Eventually CCP removed the decryptors from the COSMOS spawns and put them in various exporation sites instead.

At that point they should have simply removed the requirements from the COSMOS bpc's as the cost of the decryptors now makes manufacturing of the COSMOS bpc's stupidly expensive.


Can't even imagine someone stupid enough to build those ones anyway.

EDIT: Support hit box :green:

Crazy Mary
Posted - 2011.03.05 19:18:00 - [12]
 

Signed.

I agree with the previous poster about COSMOS needing some love, but also agree with the OP that sometimes you just have to take the small victories. Making COSMOS BPCs useful is easier than removing them from the game; having them usable adds colour/depth and is a good thing. Having them ingame but impractical to build is a bad thing.

~Mary~

Goose99
Posted - 2011.03.05 20:06:00 - [13]
 


Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.05 22:29:00 - [14]
 


herot
Fortunis - Redux
Posted - 2011.03.30 16:10:00 - [15]
 

/signed

May Yarsche
Posted - 2011.03.30 16:12:00 - [16]
 

!

Johnny Lou
Posted - 2011.03.31 11:28:00 - [17]
 


Davina Sienar
The Misinterpretation of Silence
Mean Coalition
Posted - 2011.04.07 12:40:00 - [18]
 

:-P like it


 

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